Article: Tremont Waters Prepares For Next Move

[Fishy]

The signing period is meaningless.

There is no real significance to May 17th.

 

[Chief00]

He moved to CT when he was 7 but I get what your saying.

That's a CT guy to me.

 

[upstater]

up you had to have gone to ND-West Haven because not recognizing the facts has to point to blinders?

Having said that we would all welcome the kid in a second.

The narrative driven home on this board is that he is not much in demand, and that, since UConn or Creighton are his default, it is insulting that he only thinks of these schools as a last resort. The idea that he's desperate yet looking down his nose at UConn is driving people crazy. But this is a notion that has developed here on the Boneyard and it has no relation to the facts.

 

[8893]

The narrative driven home on this board is that he is not much in demand, and that, since UConn or Creighton are his default, it is insulting that he only thinks of these schools as a last resort. The idea that he's desperate yet looking down his nose at UConn is driving people crazy. But this is a notion that has developed here on the Boneyard and it has no relation to the facts.

I'm not seeing many people suggest that he is desperate or not in demand. The vast majority of posters have acknowledged his desireable skills and the fact that he has options, and we would like to see him here.

That doesn't mean we love the inordinate amount of attention being devoted (and perhaps sought) for a kid who already chose another school twice, has made clear that he has terms he's looking to have met, and who plays a position as to which we are not desperate.

Now if he was a talented big, I'd Nochimson his ass.

 

[upstater]

I'm not seeing many people suggest that he is desperate or not in demand. The vast majority of posters have acknowledged his desireable skills and the fact that he has options, and we would like to see him here.

That doesn't mean we love the inordinate amount of attention being devoted (and perhaps sought) for a kid who already chose another school twice, has made clear that he has terms he's looking to have met, and who plays a position as to which we are not desperate.

Now if he was a talented big, I'd Nochimson his ass.

Chose another school twice? I'm only aware of G'town. But, I'd say we disagree on what people here are suggesting. The last thread and part of this thread are littered with the idea that UConn is a default for him. It has maybe been said 100x.

 

[pj]

Now if he was a talented big, I'd Nochimson his ass.

Point guards with an outside shot are more valuable than bigs. You should Nochimson him anyway.

 

[Stainmaster]

Point guards with an outside shot are more valuable than bigs. You should Nochimson him anyway.

Have you seen our frontcourt?

 

[8893]

Chose another school twice? I'm only aware of G'town. But, I'd say we disagree on what people here are suggesting. The last thread and part of this thread are littered with the idea that UConn is a default for him. It has maybe been said 100x.

I could be conflating him with another recruit but I thought I remembered reading that he had something with Texas before Georgetown? In any event, the point still stands and you are saying something different now. Of course it has been said that we are a default for him. That's a fact. At a minimum we know Georgetown was his first choice or at least first commitment. I'm not blaming him in the least for preferring UK and Duke also, but that seems pretty obvious, too, no?

You said that people had been driving home the notion that he is not in demand and desperate. That's where I think you are wrong. I don't see many, if any, people saying that.

 

[pj]

Have you seen our frontcourt?

Did you see our frontcourt in 2014? 2011? We have some young talent in the frontcourt, I wouldn't count these guys out.

 

[superjohn]

I'm not seeing many people suggest that he is desperate or not in demand. The vast majority of posters have acknowledged his desireable skills and the fact that he has options, and we would like to see him here.

That doesn't mean we love the inordinate amount of attention being devoted (and perhaps sought) for a kid who already chose another school twice, has made clear that he has terms he's looking to have met, and who plays a position as to which we are not desperate.

Now if he was a talented big, I'd Nochimson his ass.

We are desperate for great basketball players and this one happens to be from Connecticut. Chose another school twice? You might be thinking of Boatright who chose two other schools before picking UConn where a point guard wasn't a necessity since we already had Bazz. It worked out pretty great for Boat and Uconn. The rest is just you speculating on a kid you know very little about.

 

[KingAG]

I happen to know him personally, and the idea that he is "me first" is sooo far off base. He's really a great kid with high character and we'd be lucky to have him as a husky

 

[upstater]

I could be conflating him with another recruit but I thought I remembered reading that he had something with Texas before Georgetown? In any event, the point still stands and you are saying something different now. Of course it has been said that we are a default for him. That's a fact. At a minimum we know Georgetown was his first choice or at least first commitment. I'm not blaming him in the least for preferring UK and Duke also, but that seems pretty obvious, too, no?

You said that people had been driving home the notion that he is not in demand and desperate. That's where I think you are wrong. I don't see many, if any, people saying that.

People are saying that UConn and Creighton are his outlets, as he waits for Duke/Duval. They have said that. Also said he doesn't have other offers. He's been called desperate.

 

[Walker11]

People are saying that UConn and Creighton are his outlets, as he waits for Duke/Duval. They have said that. Also said he doesn't have other offers. He's been called desperate.

Even 99 is insinuating that which I don't believe for a second.

 

[8893]

We are desperate for great basketball players and this one happens to be from Connecticut. Chose another school twice? You might be thinking of Boatright who chose two other schools before picking UConn where a point guard wasn't a necessity since we already had Bazz. It worked out pretty great for Boat and UConn. The rest is just you speculating on a kid you know very little about.

Ok. I'll just watch this one play out. Admittedly I know nothing other than what I've read here.

I'll just say that I do not agree with your philosophy that the inquiry begins and ends with the fact that he is a great player. I believe in fit, and I believe our track record shows that that matters. And yours makes clear that your primary reason for wanting him is as a replacement for Alterique, not a complement, because you do not believe Alterique's shoulder will hold up. You may be right about that; I certainly don't know. But I do worry about the notion of bringing in a kid who appears to be negotiating for Alterique's job in advance.

 

[donyell34]

Guys he's not desperate we can forget that thought. Said before I would welcome him and his dad with open arms and if he commits he'll be all in. I would love to see him in a husky uniform and let's just sit back and see how.it all plays out. He might surprise us all in one way or another.

 

[superjohn]

Ok. I'll just watch this one play out. Admittedly I know nothing other than what I've read here.

I'll just say that I do not agree with your philosophy that the inquiry begins and ends with the fact that he is a great player. I believe in fit, and I believe our track record shows that that matters. And yours makes clear that your primary reason for wanting him is as a replacement for Alterique, not a complement, because you do not believe Alterique's shoulder will hold up. You may be right about that; I certainly don't know. But I do worry about the notion of bringing in a kid who appears to be negotiating for Alterique's job in advance.

This post is really out there. I never said anything close to me wanting or thinking Tremont would take Alterique's job and never said I don't think Alterique's shoulder will hold up. I've said what I always say over and over about UConn basketball, we are always at our best when we start two point guards. I see Alterique and Waters complimenting each other very well just like Boat and Bazz did.

 

[FartMan69]

Did you see our frontcourt in 2014? 2011? We have some young talent in the frontcourt, I wouldn't count these guys out.

Woof.....light years ahead. Not even close. There is ZERO college experience in the front court and your good feeling about these guys doesn't change that.

 

[KingAG]

Woof.....light years ahead. Not even close. There is ZERO college experience in the front court and your good feeling about these guys doesn't change that.

Light yrs? Thats pure revisionist history. Phil nolan, olander, and an unknown brimah isnt light yrs better than anything. Experience =/= better

 

[intlzncster]

Point guards with an outside shot are more valuable than bigs. You should Nochimson him anyway.

Not when don't have any legit bigs, and already have 2 pgs.

 

[KingAG]

Not when don't have any bigs, and already have 2 pgs.

And when jalen leaves after this yr?

 

[navery12]

This is a weird argument. There are 0 good bigs we're in a position to bring in. There is 1 good PG we're in a position to bring in. Maybe I'm crazy but I like the idea of adding more good players

 

[Kemba'sYogurt]

Woof.....light years ahead. Not even close. There is ZERO college experience in the front court and your good feeling about these guys doesn't change that.

I dunno about zero experience. In-game experience yeah, but at the end of last year Mamadou did practice with the team, so he knows what it's like to bang in the post at the college level.

 

[intlzncster]

People are saying that UConn and Creighton are his outlets, as he waits for Duke/Duval. They have said that. Also said he doesn't have other offers. He's been called desperate.

I think this has been made quite evident by various sources in the know. We've little reason to doubt that bit at this point. If he gets UK/Duke/KU offer, he's there ime.

 

[BUConn10]

Tremont's attitude towards UConn and his recruitment in general, waiting for the "big offer", is really a case of the bigger newfound trend in the sport of college basketball.

Our recruiting has simply changed from the early 2000's Calhoun era. The constant infusion of NBA money and brand building for the next level, fueled by the existence of a "one-and-done" rule has created this rift between programs that previously were more or less on the same tier or respective playing field. Guys that used to be our prime targets in each class these days prefer to be role players at the "top 5" programs because of the perceived earnings boost that it will lead to in their future endeavors, and looking at the data I can't say that they are wrong. We need to adapt or fall to the wayside, fortunately I believe dumping Miller and bringing on Chillious is exactly what that move intended.

 

[intlzncster]

This is a weird argument. There are 0 good bigs we're in a position to bring in. There is 1 good PG we're in a position to bring in. Maybe I'm crazy but I like the idea of adding more good players

Plus the fact we have a buttload of open scholarships.

 

[8893]

This post is really out there. I never said anything close to me wanting or thinking Tremont would take Alterique's job and never said I don't think Alterique's shoulder will hold up. I've said what I always say over and over about UConn basketball, we are always at our best when we start two point guards. I see Alterique and Waters complimenting each other very well just like Boat and Bazz did.

Must have confused you with another poster. I'm remote now and can't search and paste, but I could have sworn you harped on Alterique's shoulder repeatedly and diagnosed it before his own doctors did, and even questioned KO's wisdom in giving him a scholarship in the first place because of his prior history with that injury. And I thought you mentioned your concern about the shoulder again in this very thread.

As to your continued citation of Bazz and Boat or Kemba and Bazz, how exactly does that work if all three are on the team at the same time? Because you might remember that Jalen also has designs on running the team.

Absolutely no one is saying we don't want this kid. What a lot of people are saying is that it's not the end of the world if it doesn't happen, and we don't get the obsession with him to the point where some of you think we should be bending over backwards to offer him the moon and the stars when it's not a position of desperate need for us. Just feels like being set up for the continued narrative that we've suffered another devastating recruiting loss.

If and when that happens, does it count as another mark against Ollie, in addition to his failure to close him the first time? Just want to be prepared for the fallout.

 

[FartMan69]

Light yrs? Thats pure revisionist history. Phil nolan, olander, and an unknown brimah isnt light yrs better than anything. Experience =/= better

Olander was a senior who had already had tourney experience, Brimah had the size/athleticism to at least be a shot contender and you're forgetting Daniels who played mostly 4 down the stretch. Nolan stunk yes but at least had experience in the system. As of right now we not only have zero experience but who on this roster is going to contend shots at the rim? Nothing close to a shot blocker which has been a staple to this defense since forever.

 

[formerlurker]

I haven't heard anything.

 

[navery12]

Plus the fact we have a buttload of open scholarships.

Yeah exactly, at this point we need players. And then KO can spend the summer and fall trying to figure out how to gameplan around what we have. Not an ideal scenario but it's what has to happen. In 2018 I'd have no problem with him being a little more picky with who he brings in

 

[KingAG]

Olander was a senior who had already had tourney experience, Brimah had the size/athleticism to at least be a shot contender and you're forgetting Daniels who played mostly 4 down the stretch. Nolan stunk yes but at least had experience in the system. As of right now we not only have zero experience but who on this roster is going to contend shots at the rim? Nothing close to a shot blocker which has been a staple to this defense since forever.

Before that season started you knew thats what brimah would be? Dont lie, you didnt. We dont know how good this giys will perform(carlton, cobb, diarra). But just saying they are worse because they arent as experienced is a flawed argument