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ACC replacement list: UConn, USF, Memphis, Tulane, Washington State, Oregon State

superjohn said:
The other conference tournaments blow, Big East tournament is incredible. As a basketball fan nothing beats that Friday night and Saturday night at The Garden. Sunday in Greensboro, Minnesota, and Kansas City is pretty damn boring.

I just realized ACC wasn't in Greensboro this year, they don't even have a home.
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the other tournaments pale in comparison.
 
The ACC decided to play its tournament in the Atlantic 10 region this year. Maybe next year they'll go to the MAC region and host it in Toledo.

Outside of geography, the MWC would actually be a nice fit. All 6 of its tournament teams were either ranked or others receiving votes. On the football side, only Air Force and Wyoming were in Others Receiving Votes. No, I don't recommend joining, but a mix of some of those teams, big east, acc.

The acc needs to do something already.
 
Kolumbo said:
The ACC decided to play its tournament in the Atlantic 10 region this year.
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Have you ever been to Washington DC?

The Big 10 could have the championship here and it'll be highly attended. Every major school, especially on the east coast, has an alumni chapter.
 
I just love everyone talking about their love for the BE hoping UConn can go someplace and take the BE with them. Ain't happening. No one is taking schools that don't play FBS FB. This FB centric influence has already been felt in the BB tournament. If Purdue had not lost in their tournament they would have jumped UConn for the number one overall seed.
 
dayooper said:
Just a couple of quick questions, who in the Big East is important to UConn? What teams are most important for you to keep playing? Also, what non Big10/SEC BCS football schools would you want to be in a conference with?
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For me, no one in the big east is important. UConn should be playing like minded public universities, and perhaps a few brand name private large universities. People fear that UConn will go back to AAC days if they leave the Big East, but circumstances were very different back then, UConn athletics will now get the support it needs if it can get to a power conference with like minded schools.
 
dayooper said:
Just a couple of quick questions, who in the Big East is important to UConn? What teams are most important for you to keep playing? Also, what non Big10/SEC BCS football schools would you want to be in a conference with?
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I think the most important to UConn would be closer to the original Big East.
I’d like to keep playing Marquette and Xavier in hoops.
Regarding football schools: I’d love to see a league combining football and basketball.
Football:
UConn, BC, Syracuse, Pitt, Duke, Virginia, Georgia Tech, Miami, Clemson, Cincinnati, West Virginia, Va Tech, Wake Forest, Tulane, NC State, and Temple.
Basketball:
Villanova, Providence, Seton Hall, St John’s, Georgetown, Marquette, Xavier, (one of Creighton, Gonzaga, or Depaul).
That gives 16 football teams plus 8 basketball teams for a total of 24. A ton of existing and potential rivalries there.
I do think, if done right, that line up has the potential to put 2-3 teams in the football top 10 (6 in the top 25) and 8 in basketball top 25.
This assumes UNC and Florida St are B1G or SEC. The schools above need to drop egos and realize that if they don’t do something like this they will slowly but surely wither on the vine of collegiate athletics.
Just my two cents.
 
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dayooper said:
Just a couple of quick questions, who in the Big East is important to UConn? What teams are most important for you to keep playing? Also, what non Big10/SEC BCS football schools would you want to be in a conference with?
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None
 
John said:
the BET/MSG is a great great thing, but I'd give it up before dinnertime to get out of the Big East and into a decent all-sports conference that's a good home for basketball AND football.
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I don't think that's ever going to happen. And when the ACC implodes it won't be anything more than what the AAC was, except with Wake Forest.
 
Kolumbo said:
The ACC decided to play its tournament in the Atlantic 10 region this year. Maybe next year they'll go to the MAC region and host it in Toledo.

Outside of geography, the MWC would actually be a nice fit. All 6 of its tournament teams were either ranked or others receiving votes. On the football side, only Air Force and Wyoming were in Others Receiving Votes. No, I don't recommend joining, but a mix of some of those teams, big east, acc.

The acc needs to do something already.
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The MWC is a bunch of pretenders. I'd take a football only invite though.
 
CTFAN4LIFE said:
Markets don't matter; ratings do.
Travel doesn't matter; at all.
You've got yourself convinced that the ACC will take teams from the Big12; very few other media people and fans agree with you.
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If you listen to the TV execs, commissioners and AD’s, population density does matter because that is where the viewers are living. This is the reason why the Big 12 was never able to get its own network. ESPN will keep the east coast markets and add in the best Big 12 markets. This will allow ESPN to expand the ACCN to more states.
 
NE Football said:
If you listen to the TV execs, commissioners and AD’s, population density does matter because that is where the viewers are living. This is the reason why the Big 12 was never able to get its own network. ESPN will keep the east coast markets and add in the best Big 12 markets. This will allow ESPN to expand the ACCN to more states.
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The Big12 could never get its own network because their largest brand had its own.
 
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dayooper said:
The Big12 could never get its own network because their largest brand had its own.
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The Big 12 didn’t have the footprint for its own network and ESPN is not investing the money now to build a network for them. Not having your own network is a major disadvantage for the Big 12.
 
NE Football said:
The Big 12 didn’t have the footprint for its own network and ESPN is not investing the money now to build a network for them. Not having your own network is a major disadvantage for the Big 12.
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ESPN could always transfer the ACC Network into the Big 12 Network. Once the big brands leave the ACC, there is no need for an ACC Network. At least the Big 12 with have brands that have fans who care about football.
 
Rufus said:
ESPN could always transfer the ACC Network into the Big 12 Network. Once the big brands leave the ACC, there is no need for an ACC Network. At least the Big 12 with have brands that have fans who care about football.
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Please tell me what football brands are in the Big 12 that people care about. I'm not being facetious, I really can't think of any. Arizona St? Maybe Colorado until Deion is gone? Maybe I'm on a zone patrol but I don't really think K-State when I think football brand.
 
spsct said:
Please tell me what football brands are in the Big 12 that people care about. I'm not being facetious, I really can't think of any. Arizona St? Maybe Colorado until Deion is gone? Maybe I'm on a zone patrol but I don't really think K-State when I think football brand.
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All Big 12 teams have more fans than Wake Forest, Cal, SMU, Boston College, etc. And that's what the ACC is going to look like in the very near future.
 
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spsct said:
Please tell me what football brands are in the Big 12 that people care about. I'm not being facetious, I really can't think of any. Arizona St? Maybe Colorado until Deion is gone? Maybe I'm on a zone patrol but I don't really think K-State when I think football brand.
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They have 4 teams in Texas, and the those alums will watch their football team every weekend (unlike the 4 ACC teams in NC). Big 12 Network could literally do a Friday Night Light game with High School Teams at any Texas program and get eyes on it then Wake vs BC.
 
Tfoyle said:
They have 4 teams in Texas, and the those alums will watch their football team every weekend (unlike the 4 ACC teams in NC). Big 12 Network could literally do a Friday Night Light game with High School Teams at any Texas program and get eyes on it then Wake vs BC.
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UNC and NC State draw 50k to their stadiums every game and have plenty of alumni eyeballs supporting football. Lumping them in with Duke & Wake is incorrect. Their following is similar to or stronger than Baylor, TT, TCU or Houston.
 
I wouldn't trust any of them now. It like the scene in Titanic when everyone realized there were not enough lifeboats. The remnants will do anything to weasel their way a spot and past alliances be damned! One thing is for sure - the ACC is dead and we should be happy that they continually snubbed us for over a decade. I do think there will some flushing out in the P2 conferences too. How can OSU and Mich stomach watching Rutgers et al make $65 mm/yr. for being dead from the ass up?
 
Rdkid said:
UNC and NC State draw 50k to their stadiums every game and have plenty of alumni eyeballs supporting football. Lumping them in with Duke & Wake is incorrect. Their following is similar to or stronger than Baylor, TT, TCU or Houston.
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And UNC won't be around much longer. NCSU may not either if they are tied at the hip of UNC. You are comparing today's ACC to today's Big 12 when you need to compare future ACC to future Big 12. The Big 12 will have better supported brands when it's all said and done.
 
Rdkid said:
UNC and NC State draw 50k to their stadiums every game and have plenty of alumni eyeballs supporting football. Lumping them in with Duke & Wake is incorrect. Their following is similar to or stronger than Baylor, TT, TCU or Houston.
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That's the difference in the Big 12 and ACC, the top 3 to 6 programs in Texas are as strong as the Flagship School of NC.
 
Sea Goat said:
One thing is for sure - the ACC is dead and we should be happy that they continually snubbed us for over a decade.
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Because having hundreds of millions of dollars more in media revenue distributions over those decades would somehow put us in a worse position?
 
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Rufus said:
And UNC won't be around much longer. NCSU may not either if they are tied at the hip of UNC. You are comparing today's ACC to today's Big 12 when you need to compare future ACC to future Big 12. The Big 12 will have better supported brands when it's all said and done.
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Agreed - I was responding to a different assertion that was about the 4 NC programs in the league.
 
NE Football said:
The Big 12 didn’t have the footprint for its own network and ESPN is not investing the money now to build a network for them. Not having your own network is a major disadvantage for the Big 12.
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With cord cutting and the move to streaming, I would think the ACCN will not exist in 10 years as the content is rolled into whatever the ESPN streaming service is down the road. ACCN subscriber counts have already peaked (same for ESPN) although they will get some revenue uptick in the short term as they add more in conference geographies.
 
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It's not just ESPN in Bristol. There's YES, NBC, CBS and WWE in Stamford. Some people just don't get it.
 
whalerfan said:
It's not just ESPN in Bristol. There's YES, NBC, CBS and WWE in Stamford. Some people just don't get it.
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I am not a fan of Bristol but could never figure out some of the opponents to this credit. If you say, you don’t think government should be choosing industries to give breaks to that is one thing. Many of the opponents have mentioned in the past getting rid of the credit and raising revenue based on what they will bring in by removing the credit. What they don’t understand is a movie will not be filmed in Connecticut, or a company will not be here, so you will not be receiving that revenue.
 
Ha Who said:
I am not a fan of Bristol but could never figure out some of the opponents to this credit. If you say, you don’t think government should be choosing industries to give breaks to that is one thing. Many of the opponents have mentioned in the past getting rid of the credit and raising revenue based on what they will bring in by removing the credit. What they don’t understand is a movie will not be filmed in Connecticut, or a company will not be here, so you will not be receiving that revenue.
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I am hoping the credit stays, but I am also hoping CT legislators that support UConn get use it for leverage with ESPN to get UConn into a power conference.
 
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