ACC replacement list: UConn, USF, Memphis, Tulane, Washington State, Oregon State

[UConn Dan]

Not sure if this was posted this article references the below tweet

https://footballscoop.com/news/every-fbs-school-ranked-by-how-attractive-theyd-be-in-conference-realignment

 

[Rufus]

Not sure if this was posted this article references the below tweet

https://footballscoop.com/news/every-fbs-school-ranked-by-how-attractive-theyd-be-in-conference-realignment

So UConn is less valuable than every school in the B1G, SEC, Big 12 and ACC, as well as Washington State, Oregon State, Army, Navy and South Florida?

 

[LoyalFanCT]

So UConn is less valuable than every school in the B1G, SEC, Big 12 and ACC, as well as Washington State, Oregon State, Army, Navy and South Florida?

The study is garbage.

 

[TheCatsLair]

In a few years when the Big12 realizes UCF, ASU, Cincy and Houston were total ass additions I’m not sure they’ll itching to add more mouths to feed

Cincinnati, Houston and UCF have contributed big time to the Big 12. And their markets along with Arizona State's make them major gets for the Big 12.

 

[TheCatsLair]

Even if those brands left (and Louisville & Pitt are less desirable brands to a Big XII already bloated to 16) you'd still have a rump ACC that is better for the athletic department and would feature several long-term rivals. If you had a scenario where the Big XII decided to be the Big XX you're more likely looking at them seeking NC State, Virginia Tech, Miami, and one out of the Georgia Tech, Louisville, Duke (if he Yormark really thinks hoops has value). That leaves the rump ACC with BC, Syracuse, Wake Forest, Pitt, two of Louisville, Georgia Tech, Duke (as well as Stanford, SMU & Cal). From a nostalgia perspective you still get a taste of the Big East that UConn grew up in, albeit under a different name (and nowhere near as sweet), from a football perspective you get a schedule with schools that while currently P4 (at least in name) are programs UConn can compete with.

It won't happen, but really the best thing "sanity-wise" in a scenario where the ACC loses its top brands would be for the ACC and Big XII to partner to swap out brands into a bit more of a geographic alignment. Rump-ACC would swap out Stanford, Cal & SMU for WVU, UCF & Cincy.

That would be a major downgrade for the Big 12.

 

[uconnyankee]

Not sure if this was posted this article references the below tweet

https://footballscoop.com/news/every-fbs-school-ranked-by-how-attractive-theyd-be-in-conference-realignment

I don’t know how that chart does or doesn’t factor conference affiliation. I’m guessing some of the lower P4 schools are inflated due to their affiliation (Rutgers, Wake, etc)

 

[NE Football]

New Cable Network for A.C.C. Heightens Arms Race in College Sports (Published 2019)

The ACC Network is owned by ESPN with revenues and costs split with the Atlantic Coast Conference. Its launch comes against a backdrop of changing viewership and big money to air college sports.

www.nytimes.com

The ACC Network is 100% owned by ESPN. They split the costs and revenue equally with the ACC, but it’s 100% owned by ESPN. Easy to switch out the ACC with the Big 12.

No, it’s a joint venture with the ACC. You can switch out your equity partners without buying them out. ESPN will just cherry pick the teams from the B12 to add to the ACC. Very simple and very clean business plan.

 

[CL82]

No, it’s a joint venture with the ACC. You can switch out your equity partners without buying them out. ESPN will just cherry pick the teams from the B12 to add to the ACC. Very simple and very clean business plan.

If ESPN can unilaterally "switch out" the other "equity partners" at no cost, then, definitionally, they aren't "equity partners."

 

[NE Football]

ESPN can only add B12 teams when their contract with the B12 is up.

 

[uconndogs]

No. That's just not how contracts work.

You mean to say that if the terms of a contract end up turning against a party they are not entitled to unilaterally terminate the contract?!?!

 

[UConnTrumbull]

ACC insider - nice words on UConn

ACC Football Archives

 

[CTBballfan243]

ACC insider - nice words on UConn

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I forget, what's rule #1 in conference realignment?

 

[UConnTrumbull]

I forget, what's rule #1 in conference realignment?

So… should I not contribute to the thread?

 

[jostar1]

ACC insider - nice words on UConn

ACC Football Archives

From the story:

"For all the sad words of tongue and pen, the saddest are these: “It might have been.”

With apologies to the poet John Greenleaf Whittier, his phrase could easily describe the regret with which the ACC’s leadership watched Monday night’s national championship basketball game between UConn and Purdue".

How does he know that there is regret? He didn't even quote an "unnamed source".

I'm not buying it.

 

[UConnTrumbull]

From the story:

"For all the sad words of tongue and pen, the saddest are these: “It might have been.”

With apologies to the poet John Greenleaf Whittier, his phrase could easily describe the regret with which the ACC’s leadership watched Monday night’s national championship basketball game between UConn and Purdue".

How does he know that there is regret? He didn't even quote an "unnamed source".

I'm not buying it.

I agree. It’s definitely an opinion piece. The author goes on to tweet later that UConn’s best option is reduced share in the ACC. But also says in the article the B12 might get UConn first. Contradictory and shows the guy doesn’t really have anything credible here. But still nice to hear positive things.

 

[Kolumbo]

UConn has proven time and again that despite the stacked odds, it can succeed. The ACC is a complete mess and even if it has regrets it probably won't add UConn. They've made a series of bad decisions and have no clue what to do now.

The ACC and Big 12. They don't like UConn Football even through it too has shown it can succeed on an even playing field. Reduced shares? Forgetaboutit. Why invite UConn Football and then stymie it by paying out reduced shares. It makes no sense. You get what you pay for and that has always been the case.

 

[cellocgg]

ACC insider - nice words on UConn

ACC Football Archives

Nice to see some neutral observers believe in us more than our own guys on Boneyard

 

[LoyalFanCT]

Nice to see some neutral observers believe in us more than our own guys on Boneyard

This is an excellent article. Everyone on Boneyard ought to read it. Look forward to UConn soon being in the ACC.

 

[Patrick79]

There is a good chance that the ACC splinters this year, with FSU, Clemson, UNC, UVA and possibly others bolting for the SEC and B1G. The Big 12 would possibly pick up a few remnants at that point, probably Louisville, Pitt. My thoughts:

• Good riddance to the ACC, they destroyed the Big East and got conference realignment going. They deserve to implode. Schools like Boston College and Syracuse have the most to lose since they're not getting picked up by anyone. Savor that since they laughed at Uconn on the way out.
• When the ACC implodes, the B12 will pick up a few remnants. There is maybe a small chance Uconn gets an invite with the group due to Yormack's infatuation with us. That would be our best chance at a life-line that would keep us viable in all of our sports going forward.
• Uconn should under no circumstances accept an invite to the ACC if they lose 4+ schools. Their contract is going to be dropped by ESPN and the new contract will be horrid. We'd be leaving a low paying but fun league for a version of the AAC. No thanks!

 

[CL82]

There is a good chance that the ACC splinters this year, with FSU, Clemson, UNC, UVA and possibly others bolting for the SEC and B1G. The Big 12 would possibly pick up a few remnants at that point, probably Louisville, Pitt. My thoughts:

• Good riddance to the ACC, they destroyed the Big East and got conference realignment going. They deserve to implode. Schools like Boston College and Syracuse have the most to lose since they're not getting picked up by anyone. Savor that since they laughed at Uconn on the way out.
• When the ACC implodes, the B12 will pick up a few remnants. There is maybe a small chance Uconn gets an invite with the group due to Yormack's infatuation with us. That would be our best chance at a life-line that would keep us viable in all of our sports going forward.
• Uconn should under no circumstances accept an invite to the ACC if they lose 4+ schools. Their contract is going to be dropped by ESPN and the new contract will be horrid. We'd be leaving a low paying but fun league for a version of the AAC. No thanks!

Even the dregs of the ACC leftovers would be much than the AAC. Even if they're paid under a worst case scenario say $15 million per school in media dollars, that's still about twice or the big east is likely to get paid in a best case scenario.

 

[Patrick79]

Even the dregs of the ACC leftovers would be much than the AAC. Even if they're paid under a worst case scenario say $15 million per school in media dollars, that's still about twice or the big east is likely to get paid in a best case scenario.

My guess is that the ACC is left with about 7 teams, and they're not getting 15 million per school.

 

[CL82]

My guess is that the ACC is left with about 7 teams, and they're not getting 15 million per school.

We shall see.

 

[NH Husky]

We shall see.

If they’re left with 7 schools, the only way I’d join would be as a football only. UConn would be in the drivers seat. It would be up BC, Cuse, and others to figure out where to try and park their basketball. And it would be sweet revenge to prevent BC from rejoining the Big East

 

[Patrick79]

If they’re left with 7 schools, the only way I’d join would be as a football only. UConn would be in the drivers seat. It would be up BC, Cuse, and others to figure out where to try and park their basketball. And it would be sweet revenge to prevent BC from rejoining the Big East

I kind of feel that way (re: BC), but honestly, at this point I'd love to just absorb all the remnants of the ACC and improve the BE. Maybe we hold BC in the wind for a month or two and publicly embarrass them before letting them in

 

[UConnTrumbull]

My guess is that the ACC is left with about 7 teams, and they're not getting 15 million per school.

In this scenario a merger between the BE and ACC would be ideal.