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HuskyHawk said:
If you don't want Johnson to start and play 20+ a game then you want the team to be bad. Straight up. Because that would be the best result for UConn. Of course we need a guard. We have 4 open scholarships. We need several players. But this is how PG shapes up:
1. 2022-23 Newton 30+ mpg (plus an extra year if he wants)
2. 2023-24 Castle 25+ mpg
3. 2022-23 Jackson ? mpg (a non zero number)

We aren't going to get another quality PG in the portal. We can offer 20+ minutes to a combo guard or a wing. If we get a pure PG he will be deep bench depth/developmental.
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I see a path to 20 MPG for Johnson, but I see that with the bulk of his minutes as the primary big on the floor. 12-14 mpg.

I think a 2 big lineup will be situational or change of pace. 6-8 mpg.

I feel like you’re way too rigid on “traditional” player positions and roles.

Basketball now is moving towards being position-less guards and bigs. Aka, guys with handle who can create their own shots or guys who can’t.

“4 out” didn’t work too well last year with guys like Polley or Akok who couldn’t create anything for themselves.

Johnson not at the point where he can create his own shot. Once he does, he’ll be Deandre Daniels 2.0 and have plenty of starter minutes available at the 4.
 
McLovin said:
I see a path to 20 MPG for Johnson, but I see that with the bulk of his minutes as the primary big on the floor. 12-14 mpg.
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i like the rest of your post but the first part highlights the PT squeeze our frontcourt faces w/ a small ball lineup.

if johnson is getting 12-14 mpg as the primary big on the floor, that is at C, that means sanogo is averaging 26-28 mpg, which is fine but means there'd be 0 mins left for clingan when he needs 5-8 at least

i'm fine starting and ending games w/ a small ball lineup but i don't think aj should play more than 15-20 mpg at the 4. the rest of the time i'd like samson and karaban there.
 
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ok, i've been told that the new tao is the '4 out.' presumedly, mr johnson will be one of those 'out' guys, becuz mr sanogo owns the o paint.
i can buy/hope that his 3 ball is workable, but the part b of that thinking is 'when not available, he can put it on the floor and bust it to the rim.'
remains to be seen, cuz tyler did it oh so well.
 
bendm said:
i like the rest of your post but the first part highlights the PT squeeze our frontcourt faces w/ a small ball lineup.

if johnson is getting 12-14 mpg as the primary big on the floor, that is at C, that means sanogo is averaging 26-28 mpg, which is fine but that means there'd be 0 mins left for clingan when he needs 5-8 at least

i'm fine starting and ending games w/ a small ball lineup but i don't think aj should play more than 15-20 mpg at the 4. the rest of the time i'd like samson and karaban there.
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We do have a log jam of bigs. I am concerned about that.

Although I could see Sanogo playing 24-26 MPG in the cupcakes, 26-28 in early conference play and eventually ramping closer to 30 by March.

Apparently he ran out of gas this year. Maybe more conditioning solves that, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see Hurley watch his limits earlier in the year leading to more minutes for both Johnson and DC the first half of the season.

Also agree that Jackson won’t play his full 30MPG at the 4, but even if it’s only 15 mpg there, then there is only 25 minutes left for Samson and Karaban to split. If they split it 12 a piece, with 8 minutes at Center for Samson, DC still gets 6 MPG for most of the year.
 
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Beowulf said:
Can we get the next hint from the new go-to insider Mr. BiiiG lol
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Im not an insider

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McLovin said:
I see a path to 20 MPG for Johnson, but I see that with the bulk of his minutes as the primary big on the floor. 12-14 mpg.

I think a 2 big lineup will be situational or change of pace. 6-8 mpg.

I feel like you’re way too rigid on “traditional” player positions and roles.

Basketball now is moving towards being position-less guards and bigs. Aka, guys with handle who can create their own shots or guys who can’t.

“4 out” didn’t work too well last year with guys like Polley or Akok who couldn’t create anything for themselves.

Johnson not at the point where he can create his own shot. Once he does, he’ll be Deandre Daniels 2.0 and have plenty of starter minutes available at the 4.
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Objection: assumes facts not in evidence. You have no idea whether he can or cannot create his own shot. He can put it on the floor and hit 3s. Meanwhile it's a dumb criteria. We had two such players last year, Cole and Martin. The game has changed, and "creating your own shot" was a skill you had to have in the old ISO style offenses. Now you expect player and ball motion to create open shots. You need shot makers, passers and ball and player motion.

Meanwhile, every single time this comes up, all I hear is offense, offense, offense. The reason you want that size is defense, defense, defense. The reason 4 out didn't work well wasn't Polley or Akok, both of whom were threats from outside, it was Jackson and Whaley playing together. We are counting on Jackson being better. But Creighton won't leave Johnson alone outside the way they did Whaley. Offensively, he brings a weak side ability to attack the basket on baseline cuts that is going to make it very hard to double Sanogo. It's what you see all the time now in the NBA.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Objection: assumes facts not in evidence. You have no idea whether he can or cannot create his own shot. He can put it on the floor and hit 3s. Meanwhile it's a dumb criteria. We had two such players last year, Cole and Martin. The game has changed, and "creating your own shot" was a skill you had to have in the old ISO style offenses. Now you expect player and ball motion to create open shots. You need shot makers, passers and ball and player motion.

Meanwhile, every single time this comes up, all I hear is offense, offense, offense. The reason you want that size is defense, defense, defense. The reason 4 out didn't work well wasn't Polley or Akok, both of whom were threats from outside, it was Jackson and Whaley playing together. We are counting on Jackson being better. But Creighton won't leave Johnson alone outside the way they did Whaley. Offensively, he brings a weak side ability to attack the basket on baseline cuts that is going to make it very hard to double Sanogo. It's what you see all the time now in the NBA.
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I’m not arguing he won’t get minutes at the 4, but I think it’ll be more exception than norm.

You’ve posted his HS mixtapes on here. I’ve watched them. Plus he played a few minutes last year.

That’s what I’m making my assumption on.

Not a single highlight of him being able to dribble competently, let alone the ability to do anything other than dunk over 6’6” guys and pop the occasion 3.

And FWIW, Whaley hit 4 3’s vs creigton if I remember correctly. Didn’t change the outcome of that one.

If Johnson’s only ability outside of the paint is to hit a spot up 3, then creighton will take him out of the game the same way they took Polley out of the game last year (8 total points over 2 contests). That’s what hurt us in that one.
 
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@UCSouth doing their daily, dislike all of BIIIG's posts, for no reason other than them being posted by BIIIG. Notice how I say this from the actual BIIIG account and not a burner. Its time for us Non-Thousand-Messages posters to rally against the 1% who aim to keep us down. The Revolution Starts Now!
 
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Providence is killing it in the portal. Give credit to Cooley. He definitely reloaded. Should be great games next year
 
Kmart said:
Providence is killing it in the portal. Give credit to Cooley. He definitely reloaded. Should be great games next year
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Yes, Ed has done a good job in the portal. He identified his targets and signed many of them.
 
Kmart said:
Providence is killing it in the portal. Give credit to Cooley. He definitely reloaded. Should be great games next year
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Cooley is the Mussleman @ Nevada from a few years back.
A good providence is good for the BE
 
HuskyHawk said:
I am still fond of Akok. Love his energy, effort, just seemed like a terrific young man. Still think he should have played a lot more. Hope he has a great year wherever he lands.

As for Johnson, we need a legit 4 man that can both step out and hit 3s, rebound and protect the rim inside. As long as Dan is going to keep pulling his 5 from the paint, a shotblocking long 4 is critical to our defense. Johnson is the best 4 option we have, and the best backup 5 we have. He will have a field day dunking on lobs from AJax and Newton.

I wouldn't want Jackson at the 4 unless Clingan is at the 5 and he's staying in or around the paint.
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I think Akok is a good help defender from the weak side, a good shot blocker and probably a good 3 ball shooter from the corner. The issue is 1x1 post defense strength. Additionally, he never seemed to fully recover his lateral ability from his injury, thus making him a liability as a perimeter defender in Hurley’s defensive scheme.
 
Kmart said:
Providence is killing it in the portal. Give credit to Cooley. He definitely reloaded. Should be great games next year
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I saw them grab a ton of guards but do they have any type of replacement for Watson? Sanogo will eat anyone on that current roster alive.
 
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NotADime89 said:
I saw them grab a ton of guards but do they have any type of replacement for Watson? Sanogo will eat anyone on that current roster alive.
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I think Ed Croswell gonna slide right into that roll a lot easier than you think. Per 40 min he was averaging 14ppg, and 12.7rpg to Watsons 7.4rpg per 40. Croswell is definitely a dropoff scoring wise compared to Watson but with all the guards they picked up they may not need to rely on the post scoring the way they did last year. College hoops is a guards game afterall
 
BIIIG said:
I think Ed Croswell gonna slide right into that roll a lot easier than you think. Per 40 min he was averaging 14ppg, and 12.7rpg to Watsons 7.4rpg per 40. Croswell is definitely a dropoff scoring wise compared to Watson but with all the guards they picked up they may not need to rely on the post scoring the way they did last year. College hoops is a guards game afterall
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He obliterated the Mitchells in the final few mins of the half of a at the time close URI-PC game.

They wanted no parts of him like John Starks wanted no parts of those clutch free throws vs Indiana in the 90s lol (I was a Knicks fan) as said by Mark Jackson!
 
BIIIG said:
I think Ed Croswell gonna slide right into that roll a lot easier than you think. Per 40 min he was averaging 14ppg, and 12.7rpg to Watsons 7.4rpg per 40. Croswell is definitely a dropoff scoring wise compared to Watson but with all the guards they picked up they may not need to rely on the post scoring the way they did last year. College hoops is a guards game afterall
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He averaged 5pts 4 rebounds a game. If Croswell is the one guarding Sanogo he will go off for 30pts against him. PC really doesn't have anyone to guard a good post player if the opposing team has one.
 
NotADime89 said:
He averaged 5pts 4 rebounds a game. If Croswell is the one guarding Sanogo he will go off for 30pts against him. PC really doesn't have anyone to guard a good post player if the opposing team has one.
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What do his offensive stats have to do with him guarding Sanogo? You are clueless here.
 
NotADime89 said:
He averaged 5pts 4 rebounds a game. If Croswell is the one guarding Sanogo he will go off for 30pts against him. PC really doesn't have anyone to guard a good post player if the opposing team has one.
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Not saying he's a defensive stud but don't think you are giving him enough credit. Did a great job on McCormack against Kansas in their last game of the year. Was even the talking point of the article from kansas's website

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Chicago — Providence coach Ed Cooley said senior Ed Croswell’s performance in the second half of the game against Kansas on Friday allowed the Friars to recover from a 13-point deficit and briefly take the lead before they lost 66-61 in the Sweet 16. Croswell, a senior who transferred to...
www2.kusports.com www2.kusports.com
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