He’s having a better statistical season. Look at his weapons, and look at Jones weapons, he’s a gimmick qb. Are Eagles a 10 win team with Minshew yes are Giants even an 8 win team without Jones no.
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The truth is you could have Mahomes on the Giants and your probably not winning more then 10 games, this offense isn’t built to throw the ball 40 times a game.
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The story of this game was 3 solid drives stopped by Bellinger fumble,Richie James inexplicable drop of a perfect pass,Jones being picked by a great play by Peterson and the Vikes not making any mistakes except the one that could have been the biggest when Flott could not hold onto the ball to complete the interception. The Giants were the better team,but found a way to lose.
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I do have to admit that there are things Hurts can do that Jones isn't capable of.
Hurts can throw passes to DaVonta Smith, AJ Brown. He can run plays behind what is likely the best offensive line in the NFL. Brown is not capable of doing any of that.
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They'll throw the ball way more next season, when they have NFL caliber WRs for Jones to throw to
Yes exactly a true evaluation is to see how Jones does the next 3 years.
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QB is the least of Giants needs we know that now and I’m guessing Dabol and management are happy to see that. But weapons are a priority as are LBs and DBs. Will be interesting to see where they go.
In the meantime it’s good to see they finally aren’t afraid to throw on first down. Still don’t throw downfield enough but that could be due to not enough game breakers. Win one of the last 2 they’re in and that’s a good season considering.
In the meantime it’s good to see they finally aren’t afraid to throw on first down. Still don’t throw downfield enough but that could be due to not enough game breakers. Win one of the last 2 they’re in and that’s a good season considering.
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I can’t believe you people are legitimately trying to argue Jones is a better QB than Hurts. But either way Merry Christmas everyone, let’s not do it today!
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I doubt anyone is saying that. But it’s impossible to compare based on exactly what FfldCntyFan pointed out. Did you see Smith making spectacular catches for Minschew yesterday? And Brown as well? Who does Jones have to make anything but a normal catch? Lucky without drops. And the lines aren’t even close the Eagles Oline allow him to be very comfy in the pocket as well something Jones hasn’t had in 4 years. They’re better this year but need even more experience.
Hurts is in the MVP discussion no doubt and deserves it. He also has about 10 all pros on his team, it helps there’s no denying that.
Giants wouldn’t be any better with him this year, that’s my comparison.
You could legitimately argue that, that’s my Christmas gift to you lol. I admit I am in the mood to be a Jones homer today because I’m still pissed about this loss hey we all want the same thing, Merry Christmas to all.
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Merry Christmas to all! I admit Jones has exceeded my expectations the latter end of this year. I still have my opinions on him but I know there are much bigger fish to fry. The defensive backfield is a mess.
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Merry Christmas Giants (and Husky) fans - just a W over the Colts under our trees will suffice.
Jackson returning at all would be a boost for the DBs in the home stretch as well, please?
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For sure. Moreau is a serviceable backup but the opposition’s top WR burns him almost every game. We need Mckinney back too.
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Merr Christmas Giants fans it’s nice to still be in a playoff hunt at this time of year
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No he is not, Patrick Mahomes is. There are odds for these things you can look at to help you out.
Nice 34 from Minshew against Dallas. System and weapons.
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Key word AN. Just read my man. He was THE frontrunner before he got injured. You can look these things up to help you out.
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This simply shows your usage of the English language is on par with your understanding of nuance.
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Please explain boss. Jalen Hurts was the frontrunner before his injury. That’s just a fact. Explain how I made a mistake. Or maybe just sidestep it again, I don’t care, you’re wrong either way.
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"Hurts is an MVP front runner." Let's go through it for you.
"Is" and "was" are different words and mean different things. When you posted the odds had changed as he was already hurt.
Front runner means the contestant that is leading in a race or other competition. That is singular, not plural as you want it to be with the usage of "an".
Again, your post was incorrect factually, typical for you in this thread, used the word "front runner" wrong, and failed to understand the difference in "is" and "was".
The correct way to have said what you are now trying to wiggle your way into is "Hurts was the MVP frontrunner".
You're welcome on the lesson.
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What a dumb argument. Hurts is better than Jones, which is all anybody was saying.
They probably should have picked up his option. There are several teams with good rosters in need of solid, consistent QB play.
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They probably should have picked up his option. There are several teams with good rosters in need of solid, consistent QB play.
Assessing Daniel Jones' season and what type of contract the Giants could give the improved QB
Finding an appropriate value for Jones could be a tricky proposition
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When I made my statement, before Hurts missed any games, he was AN MVP frontrunner. So if you want to get super down to it, I was completely correct, and you’re making a mess out of absolutely nothing.
As HH said, this was initially a discussion about Hurts being better than Jones…Which is common knowledge to anyone who isn’t a Giants fan.
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No, they should not have. Jones had improved every year, but a major issue was staying healthy. Had Jones got hurt, again, or played poorly, the Giants would need to either sign a FA QB at what, $20 mill cap hit, or draft one in the top 5. This means you are rostering 3 QBs because Tyrod is under contract next year at $6 mill cap hit and paying a ridiculous amount to 3 QBs for the year.What a dumb argument. Hurts is better than Jones, which is all anybody was saying.
They probably should have picked up his option. There are several teams with good rosters in need of solid, consistent QB play.
Assessing Daniel Jones' season and what type of contract the Giants could give the improved QB
Finding an appropriate value for Jones could be a tricky proposition
Jones will be back on a short deal unless some team swoops in and offers big long term deal, which I am not sure any team will. Most current teams in need of a QB will either draft one or are stuck with guys on big deals.
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Bump.
I freakin love this guy.
Isaiah Hodgins' Giants stats prorated throughout a 17 game season:
87 receptions, 747 yards, 7 TDs
According to Spotrac, Hodgins is signed through next season for 870k, making him one of the only two true keepers for next season (Robinson) to build around for next year.
I'd be totally content if he starts next season as our WR3 and can live if he's a starter alongside Robinson (if healthy), a high/mid round draft pick and a cheaper veteran WR as the top 4.
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Declining the option was the obvious move. Even in the scenario for the Giants where he played so well they want to keep him (which is likely what has happened), they just use the franchise tag on him and have him for the same 1 year and $20MWhat a dumb argument. Hurts is better than Jones, which is all anybody was saying.
They probably should have picked up his option. There are several teams with good rosters in need of solid, consistent QB play.
Assessing Daniel Jones' season and what type of contract the Giants could give the improved QB
Finding an appropriate value for Jones could be a tricky proposition
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Hodgins is an ERFA at the end of the year, they should be able to keep him though. Isaiah Hodgins Contract Details, Salary Cap Charges, Bonus Money, and Contract History | Over The Cap
We need an alpha vet #1 WR. It is not coming in FA this year as there are no one out there unless someone is cut over contract issues.
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Like I said, if the Giants don‘t want him I’m sure the Jets would be happy to have him.
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It’s a CBS game
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