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djct1999 said:
its not the talent we are turning away from, it's the baggage. There is no talent in the world that is worth it if you know the baggage will eventually come back to hurt you.
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I'm obviously aware of what Zionn is saying but we aren't in any sort of a position to turn away top level talent.

He brought up Oriakhi, no way in hell do we win a Big East Championship and a National Championship without him. I also feel Vance is being a little unfairly bashed on this board.
 
djct1999 said:
its not the talent we are turning away from, it's the baggage. There is no talent in the world that is worth it if you know the baggage will eventually come back to hurt you.
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Come on. It's not like the kid has recurring f@#$k-ups or things like that. He's got an involved father, reportedly is a smart kid, and is taking his time making his decision. Let's not blow it out of proportion.
 
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superjohn said:
I'm obviously aware of what Zionn is saying but we aren't in any sort of a position to turn away top level talent.

He brought up Oriakhi, no way in hell do we win a Big East Championship and a National Championship without him. I also feel Vance is being a little unfairly bashed on this board.
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FWIW, I'd take freshman Oriakhi on next years team in a heartbeat, known baggage and all. Vance too of course. Vance gets bashed because he (mostly his father) made the most stink of all the players that left. Strange cause he likely would have gotten the most burn of any of those guys too.
 
intlzncster said:
Come on. It's not like the kid has recurring f@#$k-ups or things like that. He's got an involved father, reportedly is a smart kid, and is taking his time making his decision. Let's not blow it out of proportion.
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There is a reason that a top 30 kid is still available and it has nothing to do with taking time to make a decision. I'd agree with you if it was that easy. It is not.
 
huskyniner said:
I'm not sure we want him if he doesn't really want to be here. Didn't we just go through a roster purge of guys who weren't all in with the program?
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I wouldn't quite go that far -- I would still take him in a heartbeat.

Still, it's discouraging that even if he comes here, it will be only grudgingly.
 
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djct1999 said:
There is a reason that a top 30 kid is still available and it has nothing to do with taking time to make a decision. I'd agree with you if it was that easy. It is not.
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I see an APR drop in our future.
 
djct1999 said:
There is a reason that a top 30 kid is still available and it has nothing to do with taking time to make a decision. I'd agree with you if it was that easy. It is not.
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I would flip this around on you and say "There's a reason why there's a lot of speculation and BS being made up on this kid". People (including you) are inferring that this kid has baggage because he has been tight lipped about his recruitment. He's actually handling himself with class, unlike all these other kids tweeting ridiculous BS and trying to get followers and create a buzz. Recruiting gurus and insiders like to know what's going on. So what happens when they don't know what's going on? They start assuming there are issues and things going on behind the scenes. Duke, Kentucky and Kansas passed on the kid because they value guards with SIZE and if they can get a 6'3" point guard with equivalent skills to Waters they will take them over the 5' 9" point guard every day.

Everyone needs to stop pretending they have all kinds of insider info on this kid when they've got nothing. Stop making assumptions that have no facts to support them. There's still a very good chance this kid ends up at UConn and you guys will all be eating crow.
 
Olliewood216 said:
I would flip this around on you and say "There's a reason why there's a lot of speculation and BS being made up on this kid". People (including you) are inferring that this kid has baggage because he has been tight lipped about his recruitment. He's actually handling himself with class, unlike all these other kids tweeting ridiculous BS and trying to get followers and create a buzz. Recruiting gurus and insiders like to know what's going on. So what happens when they don't know what's going on? They start assuming there are issues and things going on behind the scenes. Duke, Kentucky and Kansas passed on the kid because they value guards with SIZE and if they can get a 6'3" point guard with equivalent skills to Waters they will take them over the 5' 9" point guard every day.

Everyone needs to stop pretending they have all kinds of insider info on this kid when they've got nothing. Stop making assumptions that have no facts to support them. There's still a very good chance this kid ends up at UConn and you guys will all be eating crow.
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amen amen amen
 
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They can have him. If he even once considered them over Uconn then let him go.
 
Who knows, but if there is any truth to the thing going around The Boneyard about his father wanting a guaranteed average number of shots per game, then that would be a deal breaker for me. He could be awesome or not, but we can't have that kind of handshake deal. Tremont's Dad may be overplaying his hand badly for his son. There was talk he might decide before his graduation this weekend, so perhaps it will end soon (thankfully).

He could be great at UConn, but it seems that ship may have sailed.
 
I don't know many schools where he could just go in an get the keys from day one. This is Jalen's team and it would do wonders for Waters to come in get a ton of minutes and not worry about leading a team. He can learn and run it next year with Gilbert and Vital
 
Olliewood216 said:
I would flip this around on you and say "There's a reason why there's a lot of speculation and BS being made up on this kid". People (including you) are inferring that this kid has baggage because he has been tight lipped about his recruitment. He's actually handling himself with class, unlike all these other kids tweeting ridiculous BS and trying to get followers and create a buzz. Recruiting gurus and insiders like to know what's going on. So what happens when they don't know what's going on? They start assuming there are issues and things going on behind the scenes. Duke, Kentucky and Kansas passed on the kid because they value guards with SIZE and if they can get a 6'3" point guard with equivalent skills to Waters they will take them over the 5' 9" point guard every day.

Everyone needs to stop pretending they have all kinds of insider info on this kid when they've got nothing. Stop making assumptions that have no facts to support them. There's still a very good chance this kid ends up at UConn and you guys will all be eating crow.
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You are proof that people can convince themselves of anything.
 
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Chief00 said:
KO better start going after guys that can shoot - if the team can't put the ball in the basket nothing else matters.
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Which is why I wish he was going after Cormac Ryan. But I suppose it's possible the kid never had interest in us as he seems to be looking at top academic schools.
 
Dogbreath2U said:
Who knows, but if there is any truth to the thing going around The Boneyard about his father wanting a guaranteed average number of shots per game, then that would be a deal breaker for me. He could be awesome or not, but we can't have that kind of handshake deal. Tremont's Dad may be overplaying his hand badly for his son. There was talk he might decide before his graduation this weekend, so perhaps it will end soon (thankfully).

He could be great at UConn, but it seems that ship may have sailed.
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Please can someone confirm if that is true? Because if KO took a kid on that basis that would seal the deal for me of getting rid of our coach. Does not sound real.
 
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Zags is in the know and calls it a circus. You cant spin this recruitment its insane
 
djct1999 said:
You are proof that people can convince themselves of anything.
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You are so far off on this one. He is much closer to the truth. You have made a raft of faulty assumptions.
 
Svi Mykailiuk is returning to Kansas. Even if they had interest, that's all but out the window now. No more room.
 
upstater said:
Don't fall for it.

The recruiting "gurus" are just upset because they are not getting any info from suspect sources.
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Idk i've never seen a recruitment like this. I know the kid and he's a good kid so im not talking about his character. But his process has indeed been a circus
 
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