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Week 3 games (Nov. 18-24)

KnightBridgeAZ said:
Prairie View and Arkansas Pine-Bluff come to mind from past seasons, I don't know who is on the list this year.
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You can use a derogatory term for it if you want, but many teams in SWAC and other similar conferences are in this boat. OOC scheduling is basically a fundraiser, they take all the guarantee games they can get because their Athletic Departments just don't bring in much revenue. Texas Southern men are famous for playing nearly all of their OOC games on the road, year in and year out.
 
nwhoopfan said:
You can use a derogatory term for it if you want, but many teams in SWAC and other similar conferences are in this boat. OOC scheduling is basically a fundraiser, they take all the guarantee games they can get because their Athletic Departments just don't bring in much revenue. Texas Southern men are famous for playing nearly all of their OOC games on the road, year in and year out.
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I don't have anything against the practice, I don't remember the numbers but a few years back the Arizona Daily Star published what Arizona was paying for some MBB games. These schools need those funds to survive.

I don't think anyone gets rich on the women's side, but it gets the teams out on the road (with the positives that that provides), gives them competition that most likely isn't coming to their school to play, and other (limited) positives. On the other hand, a well respected women's coach who inherited from the previous coach a game scheduled against Rutgers for her lower level and not-so-good program pointed out, I think correctly - that she hated playing the game because her players were not going to learn anything, could not possibly compete and were just going to get beaten down. So there is more than one side to it.

The nick-name (not original with me) seems suitable, and was never meant to demean the schools themselves. But I wish the Power 5 level schools would schedule better games and rely less on paid chow for guarantee wins.
 
KnightBridgeAZ said:
I don't think anyone gets rich on the women's side, but it gets the teams out on the road (with the positives that that provides), gives them competition that most likely isn't coming to their school to play, and other (limited) positives. On the other hand, a well respected women's coach who inherited from the previous coach a game scheduled against Rutgers for her lower level and not-so-good program pointed out, I think correctly - that she hated playing the game because her players were not going to learn anything, could not possibly compete and were just going to get beaten down. So there is more than one side to it.

The nick-name (not original with me) seems suitable, and was never meant to demean the schools themselves. But I wish the Power 5 level schools would schedule better games and rely less on paid chow for guarantee wins.
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Agreed, I don't like it either. Nobody learns anything from 50+ point beat downs. Not the winning team, not the losing team, not the last player on the end of the bench who gets some PT, but won't in a game against real competition. I don't know if this year is worse than normal or I'm just paying more attention to it, but so few games have been compelling so far. I don't think Washington is going to be very good this year and they've hammered a pair of opponents by 30 and 50. Everything is driven by football, but there's no way there should be approx. 350 teams competing at the D1 level in men's and women's hoops. It's too many, by a wide margin. But it's the current landscape, not sure that it's going to change (and if it does it will probably be a consolidation of power by very few programs, breaking away from the NCAA).
 
Coler said:
We have a week between games, so plenty of times to prepare for you guys.
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Doesn't this stuff belong in the GENERAL WOMAN'S BASKETBALL, ISN'T THIS ABOUT UCONN WCBB????
 
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Any information on if the 4:30 Depaul / Miami Game (MAGGIE DIXON CLASSIC) is being televised??
 
Minnesota has their hands full w/ Montana St. Gophers up 1 midway thru Q4.
 
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In other action:

Surprisingly, Rice is being completely demolished by Oklahoma State, down 26 in the 4th quarter.
And Houston is up by 13 over Oklahoma at start of 4Q.
 
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triaddukefan said:
The announcer just said that Miami struggled yesterday with North Carolina AT&T :mad:
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Ha maybe they've rebranded to cash in on a lucrative sponsorship from the telecommunications giant.
 
Plebe said:
In other action:

Surprisingly, Rice is being completely demolished by Oklahoma State, down 26 in the 4th quarter.
And Houston is up by 13 over Oklahoma at start of 4Q.
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What's going on with Rice? 28-4 last year. About to drop to 2-3, 3rd loss in a row. I don't know if they lost some other key players but they have Ogwumike and Mulkey still.
 
Minny up 9 w/ about a minute left, no upset happening there.
 
nwhoopfan said:
What's going on with Rice? 28-4 last year. About to drop to 2-3, 3rd loss in a row. I don't know if they lost some other key players but they have Ogwumike and Mulkey still.
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Their OOC schedule is upgraded from last year. Their only significant nonconference games last year were A&M, UCLA and North Carolina, and they lost all 3. This year they came extremely close to knocking off A&M but played horribly on the road to lose at SMU and, apparently now again, at Oklahoma State.

From the boxscore, Mulkey was a complete nonfactor and Ogwumike has shot 5-18. Not enough other weapons on Rice to pick up the slack.
 
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I've only caught bits and pieces of it, but what I've seen has been exciting ball.

Game tied 41-41 at the half, thanks to a 35-foot runner by Daninger:

 
Seattle U. @ Washington is ugly. Dawgs shooting under 30% but still leading 23-5 after Q1. Seattle U. is terrible.
 
Plebe said:
I've only caught bits and pieces of it, but what I've seen has been exciting ball.

Game tied 41-41 at the half, thanks to a 35-foot runner by Daninger:

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Maybe in the minority but Depaul's quick trigger 3pt offense (often so quick in the shot clock and beyond normal range) drives me nuts.
 
eebmg said:
Maybe in the minority but Depaul's quick trigger 3pt offense (often so quick in the shot clock and beyond normal range) drives me nuts.
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Ha well so far they're 14 of 38 (!), which by analytics isn't bad.

They're shooting the same percentage right now from 2 and from 3 (37%). They're causing plenty of Miami turnovers but, predictably, don't match up well with Mompremier who now 22 and 14 late in 3Q.
 
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eebmg said:
Maybe in the minority but Depaul's quick trigger 3pt offense (often so quick in the shot clock and beyond normal range) drives me nuts.
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I'm in that minority as well. I know Bruno is a friend of Geno's so DePaul is held in high regard on the BY, but their shot selection is often poor when I've watched them play.
 
Q: How do you shoot 32% from the floor but lead your opponent by 30 at halftime?
A: Play a team that shoots 13% from the floor.

That and big advantage in rebounding and turnovers. UW up 44-13 and they really don't look good to me.
 
Plebe said:
Ha well so far they're 14 of 38 (!), which by analytics isn't bad.

They're shooting the same percentage right now from 2 and from 3 (37%). They're causing plenty of Miami turnovers but, predictably, don't match up well with Mompremier who now 22 and 14 late in 3Q.
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I understand the logic but not my aesthetic. Also, I seem to recall the common wisdom that 3 pt shooting gets harder in the 4th Q as legs tire. Curious if statistical analysis demonstrates this??
 
Plebe said:
Kind of a slow week; not as many compelling matchups as last week.

Tues., Nov. 19
  • #22 South Florida at #2 Baylor (8p ET, ESPN+). The last time the Bulls visited Waco was exactly 4 years ago (11/19/15). In that game, USF was 1 point down with 2 minutes to play and ended up losing 66-63. USF was led by Courtney Williams (23 points), Laura Ferreira (14 points) and Alisia Jenkins (14 rebounds). Sadly, I have a feeling this game won't be nearly as close. (Fun to see the boxscore: Stats (PDF) - USF Athletics).

Wed., Nov. 20
  • George Washington at #9 Maryland (7p, BTN+). Good news for GW is that Wake transfer Ariel Stephenson made her debut in their last game. Bad news: Louisville transfer Sydney Zambrotta missed that game (I'm not sure why). Rizzotti really needs both of them on the floor for this one.
  • Washington State at Boise State (7p, Mountain West Digital Network). Both of these teams should be better than they were last year. Much is expected of BSU.
  • Princeton at Iowa (7:30p, BTN+). Princeton has been playing well, but both Alarie and Littlefield exited their previous game with injuries.
Thu. Nov. 21
  • Missouri at South Dakota (8p ET, live stream). South Dakota is 3-0 and coming off overtime wins over Drake and Utah. Missouri has struggled, going 1-3 against a fairly tough opening schedule.
Sat., Nov. 23
  • Notre Dame at #21 Michigan (1p, BTN+). And just that fast, Muffet's back in her cherished underdog role.
  • Rice at Oklahoma State (3p, ESPN+). Rice lost its last road game at SMU but then nearly beat TAMU at home. Which Rice team will show up?
  • Oklahoma at Houston (3p). Keeping in the spirit of exchange between H-Town and the False Starters State.
  • #17 Miami at #19 DePaul (4:30p, live stream). Final of Maggie Dixon Classic.
  • #6 Texas A&M at Southern Cal (8:30p, https://pac-12.com/live/usc). Aggies return to where Carter had her breakout game as a freshman two years ago.
Sun. Nov. 24
  • #1 Oregon at #17 Syracuse (4p, ACCN). Oregon struggled mightily to put away Syracuse last year at home. Could be a good challenge for them.
  • #20 Arkansas at Cal (5p, free live stream).
  • Rutgers at LSU (8p, SECN). Two NCAA tournament hopefuls. The first good look at Rutgers.
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Thanks for posting these weekly games!
 
If someone doesn't have Depaul in their rankings even after this victory.... does that reflect poorly on that voter?
 
triaddukefan said:
If someone doesn't have Depaul in their rankings even after this victory.... does that reflect poorly on that voter?
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Grounds for disqualification as a voter. :p
 
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