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UCDaveD said:
Negotiated buyouts aren't nearly as rare as you believe.

Arkansas fires coach Pelphrey after 4 seasons

Florida agrees to pay $7.5 million buyout to ex-coach Jim McElwain – The Denver Post

UK settles with Gillispie for $2.98 million

Report: LSU splits with Matt Canada after negotiating down his buyout

Source: Bielema to receive $11.8 million buyout
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Yeah, it'd be nice if you weren't using SEC football, where booster money is a variable we can't even consider, as a baseline.

The Gillespie firing involved a protracted legal process which I'm not sure our current administration is competent enough to engage in. Plus his off-court issues didn't manifest publicly until after the firing. Benedict knows his career is toast if it comes out in a courtroom that he knew about KO's off-court issues for nearly two years and didn't take action. And looking at how far down Gillespie's buyout was negotiated (essentially halved), $5MM vs. $10MM doesn't buy Benedict a ton of room when it comes to setting aside the next HC's salary. And knowing what we now know about Benedict being the sole driver behind the November 2016 extension, he's going to have a much tougher time kissing the ring than he did when it came to collecting Diaco's buyout.

So you're left wih John Pelphrey being paid a negotiated buyout according to sources. Granted Jeff Long doesn't seem like too smart of a guy, but I still don't trust Benedict anywhere near as much anymore.
 
Man as a KO supporter I am really questioning the direction of the program of late under his leadership. I have been on here (The Yard) questioning the level of our recruits desire to improve. And after watching our effort against Tulsa it is clear that we do not have the talent to compete on a nightly go round. We have a bunch of Clydesdales out there thinking that they are Thoroughbreds.

If we do get coach back next year, it has to be with some serious guidelines and expectations. Recruiting, granted we are not getting 5 star players, has to improve. We have to find players that can play on both ends of the floor and have a solid basketball IQ. The point guards, which are usually your coaches on the floor, do not make good decisions on shooting or passing. These guys are the foundation of your basketball program. If we do not have decent point guards we are screwed. Like you guys have stated, skill development has been horrible. Our post players are not improving. The perimeter players are not improving. Some of this falls on the players and some of this is on the coaches. Hopefully over these next few games we see some kind of improvement. Even a little progression in decision making by the point guards would be a welcome moment.
 
Travelman32 said:
Of course, but as I said, desperate times. I am open to anything at this point. My dream pick up is still Mr. Dan Hurley but trying to be realistic and realizing we are more likely to get a coach closer to those dozen or so than one closer to Dan Hurley as far as prestige, though one can dream. Not really sure which of those 12 has the most experience on the east coast, tbh.
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Wow, just let that sink in for a minute. A program that that won 4 NCAA Championships in 15 years was run into the ground so badly that in your dreams the Rhode Island coach would come here. I want Hurley as well, but I never imagined we’d see our program take such a hit that we’d be dreaming of getting URI’s coach and elated if it happens.
 
Stairmaster said:
Yeah, it'd be nice if you weren't using SEC football, where booster money is a variable we can't even consider, as a baseline.

The Gillespie firing involved a protracted legal process which I'm not sure our current administration is competent enough to engage in. Plus his off-court issues didn't manifest publicly until after the firing. Benedict knows his career is toast if it comes out in a courtroom that he knew about KO's off-court issues for nearly two years and didn't take action. And looking at how far down Gillespie's buyout was negotiated (essentially halved), $5MM vs. $10MM doesn't buy Benedict a ton of room when it comes to setting aside the next HC's salary. And knowing what we now know about Benedict being the sole driver behind the November 2016 extension, he's going to have a much tougher time kissing the ring than he did when it came to collecting Diaco's buyout.

So you're left wih John Pelphrey being paid a negotiated buyout according to sources. Granted Jeff Long doesn't seem like too smart of a guy, but I still don't trust Benedict anywhere near as much anymore.
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Kim Anderson, Travis Ford, Johnny Dawkins. Take your pick, I don't care. The point is it isn't unheard of to negotiate a buyout. Does it happen with regularity? No. But it's much more realistic than "forcing" KO to restructure his current deal for pennies on the dollar plus incentives, which was actually tossed out as a serious idea by someone.
 
There's no doubt that the time has come for the program to move in another direction. The question has always been whether it's financially viable to do so before the end of next season. If the read I'm getting is that eating the buyout is the lesser of two evils, then I'll take your word. We'll have to wait and see what happens.
 
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tentoes4rings said:
Wow, just let that sink in for a minute. A program that that won 4 NCAA Championships in 15 years was run into the ground so badly that in your dreams the Rhode Island coach would come here. I want Hurley as well, but I never imagined we’d see our program take such a hit that we’d be dreaming of getting URI’s coach and elated if it happens.
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Suck it up, snowflake, and welcome to reality.
 
There's nothing wrong with hoping for URI's head coach. Many of the best coaches start somewhere.

Did you know Bill Belichick applied for the UConn football head coach job? We chose the wrong damn man.
 
August_West said:
I've got no rebuttal.
Mark the date. It's a first.
I've got no rebuttal. You are right.
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Oh praise August West has NO REBUTTAL. Still managed to scrape out 17 words while saying nothing and allegedly no rebuttal though, quite telling and can't wait for his schtick to return when the next non-Fishy person makes an identical post to this one.
 
Kemba429 said:
Really hope that Danny Hurley would like to coach us even though the American isnt a “P5” I think he can turn things around relatively quickly
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I'm curious.. optimistically speaking, how quickly do we think a new coach can turn things around? I'm talking about 25+ wins, a solid top 25 ranking in February and March and a top 5 seed in the tournament. 2021? If we hired someone this off-season, that'd be their third year coaching, and two seasons of recruits (meaning they'd be sophomores). Probably not until they're juniors? 4 years? Or if the transfer rules change, maybe we can get upperclass talent to supplement the younger kids?

This presumes we do not get hit hard by the NCAA. That could extend the timeline by at least a year, maybe two depending on the punishment.
 
Fishy said:
There’s no longer any argument against firing Kevin Ollie - at least not one that makes any sense.

We’re legitimately a bottom-third team in the American. There’s no excuse for that. People want to go to the Big East? As presently constituted, there isn’t a team in that conference we’d be favored to beat. If we were lucky, we’d steal wins at home against DePaul and maybe St. John’s.

The program is a farrago of misery and it’s all a direct result of the head coach’s incompetence or neglect or a combination of the two...

Recruiting - bad.
Player development - bad.
On court success - bad.
Off court avoidance of the NCAA - bad.
Public perception - bad.

A Tulsa writer punked the program today and people got their undies in a knot over it - if anything, the guy pulled his punches. Tulsa is something like 5-2 against us. Frank Haith is not a good head coach, but he’ll beat Kevin Ollie with Tulsa’s players and if you switched teams, he’ll beat Kevin Ollie again with UConn’s players.

He’s just a bad head coach and he’s a bad program manager - if it weren’t for the poison pill of a contract we have with him, there’d be no question Ollie would be fired at the end of the season. None.

Even so, he’s gotta go.
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If he was our football coach, and even had a NC 4 years ago under his belt, and UConn had four NC's in football over the past twenty years, and had allowed a great program to disintegrate like it has, poison pill be damned, he would have been fired early last year after the losses to a Wagner and a Coppin State. That being said, I still think he's gone at the end of the season, he'll either resign over the Sidney Wilson thing or he's fired outright. If he isn't, expect at least one high profile transfer out of the program.
 
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3for3 said:
I'm curious.. optimistically speaking, how quickly do we think a new coach can turn things around? I'm talking about 25+ wins, a solid top 25 ranking in February and March and a top 5 seed in the tournament. 2021? If we hired someone this off-season, that'd be their third year coaching, and two seasons of recruits (meaning they'd be sophomores). Probably not until they're juniors? 4 years? Or if the transfer rules change, maybe we can get upperclass talent to supplement the younger kids?

This presumes we do not get hit hard by the NCAA. That could extend the timeline by at least a year, maybe two depending on the punishment.
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Theres no other answer other than well see. It all depends on who leaves after KO does (assuming he does.) Id like to say that wed be back at 25 wins in two seasons but its just so hard to judge.
 
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Seems to me he also has empty seats next to him coaching. How could they not bring it to the coach's attention he doesn't have a rebounder out there the last foul shots?

If there here for recruiting who have they got that's a difference maker?
 
BUConn10 said:
Oh praise August West has NO REBUTTAL. Still managed to scrape out 17 words while saying nothing and allegedly no rebuttal though, quite telling and can't wait for his schtick to return when the next non-Fishy person makes an identical post to this one.
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Did your boyfriend forget to get you a card on Valentine's day?

Keep your chin up, hun. It gets better.
 
Horatio said:
I said "some of" and that clearly means not all of them but I get what your saying.
It probably won't happen but don't you think a new coach would want Carlton, Sid,Larrier, Jalen and Vital to stay along with the incoming recruits?
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Do u think Jalen wants to stick around to play another year of this disaster? As far as I'm concerned, I'm fine with starting completely fresh
 
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Stainmaker said:
Yeah, it'd be nice if you weren't using SEC football, where booster money is a variable we can't even consider, as a baseline.

The Gillespie firing involved a protracted legal process which I'm not sure our current administration is competent enough to engage in. Plus his off-court issues didn't manifest publicly until after the firing. Benedict knows his career is toast if it comes out in a courtroom that he knew about KO's off-court issues for nearly two years and didn't take action. And looking at how far down Gillespie's buyout was negotiated (essentially halved), $5MM vs. $10MM doesn't buy Benedict a ton of room when it comes to setting aside the next HC's salary. And knowing what we now know about Benedict being the sole driver behind the November 2016 extension, he's going to have a much tougher time kissing the ring than he did when it came to collecting Diaco's buyout.

So you're left wih John Pelphrey being paid a negotiated buyout according to sources. Granted Jeff Long doesn't seem like too smart of a guy, but I still don't trust Benedict anywhere near as much anymore.
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You are being wicked obtuse. Benedict has nothing to fear. He was handed the contract extension that tied his hands. And he could say they were investigating rumors for a few years and eventually concluded a change in culture was needed. We aren't talking about decades of looking the other way like penn state or mich state. We are talking about a few years, which is totally acceptable for an investigation.

And Ollie's NBA prospects and salary are absolutely tied to his performance. It is going down with every game. He needs a change and soon. Plus, his bros in the NBA aren't getting any younger. If he wants to use them as leverage to land an associate position, best do it ASAP.
 
Kitaman said:
These are not just games, they are 2 1/2 hours of our time that we can't recoup. Its not entertainment or educational, its one bad movie after another that we continue to watch with no benefit or enjoyment.

Its not so bad if you are young but for us older folks its basically precious 'time wasted'.
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Stopped wasting my time. Check the box score the next day and then the BY for the details. I refuse to subject myself to that anymore. How could Larrier who is 6-8 get ONE rebound in 28 mins.?
 
Letsgohuskies11 said:
Do u think Jalen wants to stick around to play another year of this disaster? As far as I'm concerned, I'm fine with starting completely fresh
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Its not really worth transferring out with the year he would have to sit out and hes not good enough to go pro (for the NBA at least.) His best option is to stay at UConn, unless we get a new coach then, if he really wanted to, he could go to a different school that he knew he would be in the tourney with.
 
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RoderickSpode said:
It’s getting to the point where we might actually retain more players if we hire a competent coach. The players aren’t dumb, they’re here to develop and that isn’t happening.
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Hopefully this happens
 
huskyrob1 said:
If he was our football coach, and even had a NC 4 years ago under his belt, and UConn had four NC's in football over the past twenty years, and had allowed a great program to disintegrate like it has, poison pill be damned, he would have been fired early last year after the losses to a Wagner and a Coppin State. That being said, I still think he's gone at the end of the season, he'll either resign over the Sidney Wilson thing or he's fired outright. If he isn't, expect at least one high profile transfer out of the program.
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Lol. High profile transfer!
 
Kemba429 said:
Its not really worth transferring out with the year he would have to sit out and hes not good enough to go pro (for the NBA at least.) His best option is to stay at UConn, unless we get a new coach then, if he really wanted to, he could go to a different school that he knew he would be in the tourney with.
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His best option might be playing overseas or the G League. Given that he's regressed this year, I'm not sure sticking around another year is the best for him.
 
freescooter said:
I’m shocked the Ollieistas haven’t chimed in that we won’t get anyone better. Calling Stairmaster. Paging willie?
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Maybe they've accepted that a well-trained rodent would be better than the current coach . . .
 
Letsgohuskies11 said:
His best option might be playing overseas or the G League. Given that he's regressed this year, I'm not sure sticking around another year is the best for him.
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I dont know if id say hes regressed, his assists are down but I dont really blame him for that. I guess his shooting % is down but hes scoring well and is doing good on the defensive side.
 
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