You don't have to.
Do you have any siblings?
Yes, two brothers. Doesn't have anything to do with what we are discussing though.
Is there any scenario where someone kills a family member of yours and you don't strike back?
Sure, plenty of them. But again, this has nothing to do with what we are discussing.
Ever see the movie "In The Bedroom"? That's where I stand.
Nope. Probably won't either after reading a little about it. But again, it really doesn't have anything to do with what we were discussing. Ever see the movie "The Other"? In a way, more relevant.
If they were simply close comrades with different styles and opinions the same mercy/humanity vs survivalist dilemma applies. And the Governor could have killed 'New Moralist Leader' with Tank Guy agreeing in principal while upset about losing a friend but being psyched to now go and yield his tank blow up powers. I don't know but I'd guess they were brothers in the comics, this made things more dramatic there and got stuck in without time to play out here. Please explain how & why the brother thing worked.
Ok, but realize here you are admitting it did go over your head.
This was about good seed/bad seed. Two sets of brothers. Both sets with a good seed/bad seed. Philip/Brian (Gov) and Pete/Mitch. Gov knew Mitch was basically the Gov, just not as developed. Willing to do what needed to be done to survive. Do you doubt the Gov would kill his own brother if would mean his survival? (answer is yes he would - besides 2 Lts, he'd already killed his best friend and his lover). Remember his story about his brother. Don't be a hero. Hero's get themselves and others hurt. Survive. Now Mitch probably wasn't at a point where he could kill his brother (he would probably have eventually gotten there). But he was at a point where he could understand. May not like it (who would) but he could understand. Yes, the brother thing is the only way this would have worked.
How did the Governor not have a plan and expect them to back down?! And if he truly expected them to back down why did he slice off Herschel's head and yell kill them all?! I will tell you why, I've heard both were in the comics. They changed the story here and it didn't fit as well with certain comic scenes that somehow are made mandatory. The Governor planned to kill them all whether at the prison or after chasing them away (hence his speech to be prepared- he knew he had to have his people prepared to fight, not too much of a leap to say maybe a battle plan is next step). Pretty obvious that Rick and Daryl (and Michonne) are the key guys so just like his Army unit takedown all he needed to do was position a sniper to take those two out first either at the attack or in the same way he grabbed Michonne. I understand 100% this is over-analyzing and we simply needed a battle and a Rick-Governor mano-a-mano, but just can't believe someone thinks it was completely logical.
Well now you are changing your story. Did he have a plan?, did he have a battle plan? Two separate things. First his plan was to get the prison without a fight. He had the upper hand (so he thought) in negotiations. Prisoners and a tank. Again he over estimated that, and underestimated Rick and Rick's gang. So yea he had a plan.
Did he have a back up plan if that failed. Eh, that's debatable. He probably had a plan, use the tank and kill them all or at least chase them off. If they don't want to play....oh well. Granted it wasn't a very good plan. But then you are the only one who seems to think he was a great battle tactician. I think Rick was much better. So sure he had a back up plan. Probably hoped he wouldn't have to use it. When it came down to it and he did have to fight, he pretty much accepted "I'm a psychopath, I ain't changing, F$%& it, kill them all." It was a "snap" moment for him. At that point, battle plan....whatever... kill them all.
Was there always going to be a battle? Sure, but from the viewers point of view, not necessarily from the characters point of view. Did the Gov and Rick need to fight. Pretty much to satisfy the viewers. In the comic the final prison battle took place after Rick and the Gov had fought. (Rick lost his hand in that fight, Gov feed it to Penny - we didn't get THAT on TV
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Just because something doesn't play out exactly like you think it should, doesn't necessarily make it illogical. There were plenty of ways this could have gone. It went this way.
Be happy, the Gov is dead and Rick's gang is back on the road. That's a good thing.
