Vance is Transferring

[husky429]

It's true - he lead the conference in 3-point fg percentage. He also missed waaaayyy too many open jumpers at key points of games...shots that, if scored, could have helped change the outcome. A good shooter knocks those shots down. He's not a good shooter.

I'm not sure if you know how shooting percentage works, but it's a percentage of 3 point shots you make overall, in every minute played a guy is on the court. It's not just the shots where we really could have used a basket (he hit plenty of those, by the way). Even Shabazz and Kemba missed plenty in hot spots, and they're like deities on here.

Vance was the most accurate shooter in the AAC. that's just the reality. "Best" shooter is debatable, because of limited attempts. But he was FACTUALLY the most accurate shooter in the AAC.

He will be missed, and I wish him nothing but the best. He's not badmouthing the university, even his father is just saying he wants a different playing style. No big deal.

We will replace him.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

It's true - he lead the conference in 3-point fg percentage. He also missed waaaayyy too many open jumpers at key points of games...shots that, if scored, could have helped change the outcome. A good shooter knocks those shots down. He's not a good shooter.

C'mon, dude. Now you just sound silly.

 

[Tenspro2002]

Good point even though I think the two forward positions would have been interchangeable.

That's what I don't understand.

Did Vance really think the DeAndre Daniels role was insufficient to showcase his talents?

 

[80shusky]

I love when people say, "I'm taking my talents to ABC University." I always visualize the kid packing them in his luggage....

Are you allowed to carry your talents on or do you have to check them?

 

[T-Squared]

Good luck with that argument. The truth is in the percentages. Not your gut feeling

And those "percentages" won how many games for the Huskies this year?

While you're trying to cobble together some kind of analytic response, I'll let my eyes tell me what's up. They haven't failed me yet.

 

[djct1999]

Good luck with that argument. The truth is in the percentages. Not your gut feeling.



He showed a little more off the bounce that I actually thought he would. He can pump fake and plays with a level of composure. He will be a starter at a good D1 school. His upside will likely depend on him gaining strength so he can defend the 4. I am not really worried about how he impacts us long term and he obviously doesn't fit KO's defensive scheme. but I think he will have a good career somewhere.

There is a lot of talent on the roster. The sky falling mentality isn't really apparent if the storm is actually over and if that's how someone feels, its on them.

True. Depending on the school he chooses, he can be a d-1 starter. I just don't think he would be a starter at UConn.

 

[ct06111]

Good, I can't wait for him to "travel" elsewhere.

 

[tjc1888]

USC

Think that's a good spot. Team that has an emphasis on offense and bigs that can shoot. Won't be too worried about his defense unlike KO. Will use him in the stretch 4 role. Though that's probably what he would have been here.

 

[intlzncster]

That's what I don't understand.

Did Vance really think the DeAndre Daniels role was insufficient to showcase his talents?

Might have been like Roscoe. A college 4 who wants to be three instead.

 

[UConnNick]

This was kind of known for a while. Vance is a good kid and a nice player but Vance Sr. thinks he's the next Lamar Odom.

Yeah, as big a contributor as he may have become, it's probably not worth having a guy on the team that Mr. Calhoun would say has a "whack job" parent filling his head with nonsense.

 

[Walker11]

And those "percentages" won how many games for the Huskies this year?

While you're trying to cobble together some kind of analytic response, I'll let my eyes tell me what's up. They haven't failed me yet.

Jesus H Christ you are a dummy.

 

[nychuskyfan]

And those "percentages" won how many games for the Huskies this year?

While you're trying to cobble together some kind of analytic response, I'll let my eyes tell me what's up. They haven't failed me yet.

Well Walker11. It's time to explain yourself. What are these so called "percentages" you speak of? You will not confuse my eyes with your fancy math.

 

[Jaybo]

I hate him

 

[3RingsCT]

Players jumping ship does not sit well with me, especially a player of VJ's caliber. That being said, I still question KO's ability to develop talent. If he stayed, there's no guarantee he would get any better.

Those that have stayed , never improved a great deal (Brimah, Purvis). Add that to the long list of players who transfer out/NBA draft right away (T.Sam, Hamilton, Lubin, Cassell JR, VJ, Enoch). That's what I'm worried about. We can't get a team to stay together. JC used to develop talent and get guys to stay a few years. We have a new team every stinkin year now under KO

 

[Jimdish255]

As far as Rodney's "love" tweets I remember he and Vance had a few disagreements coming off the court, Rodney seemed unhappy with his effort and not listening. Also said to my brother numerous times when KO would get into VJ a little it was going in one ear and out the other. He wanted his points to make dad happy but there wasn't a ton of effort on the other end.

Rodney was having a tough year especially early on making shots and trying to dribble through guys. Man I was on him in the chatroom. But despite that you couldn't question his loyalty or his effort. Maybe some young guys got the wrong idea about that.

 

[UCweCONN]

Jamaal Coombs McNevermind

Jamaal Coombs McDoobie.

 

[Walker11]

Well Walker11. It's time to explain yourself. What are these so called "percentages" you speak of? You will not confuse my eyes with your fancy math.

Its funny because I probably err on the luddite side of the analytical debate but this guy is just on a trip.

 

[Towney007]

I'm not sure if you know how shooting percentage works, but it's a percentage of 3 point shots you make overall, in every minute played a guy is on the court. It's not just the shots where we really could have used a basket (he hit plenty of those, by the way). Even Shabazz and Kemba missed plenty in hot spots, and they're like deities on here.

Vance was the most accurate shooter in the AAC. that's just the reality. "Best" shooter is debatable, because of limited attempts. But he was FACTUALLY the most accurate shooter in the AAC.

He will be missed, and I wish him nothing but the best. He's not badmouthing the university, even his father is just saying he wants a different playing style. No big deal.

We will replace him.

I'm on the AAC website right now and he's not in the top 10 in any 3 point or even FG% category - full season or in-conference-only. Am I missing something, here?

He's in the high 20's/low 30's in almost everything.

 

[UCweCONN]

I have a poster I got from the second preseason game. With every player on it - obviously inclusive of those who just announced their departure. I plan to frame it this offseason at some point, and look at it when we win our next championship with admiration of how spoiled we are as a fanbase and to remind me of how the tough times come and go. This too shall pass.

I actually got a black Sharpie and X'd out a bunch of guys from the poster.

 

[Dove]

Boneyarder 1: "We need to recruit guys with higher basketball IQ, rather than athletic guys who were soccer players until three years ago. "

Boneyarder 2: "Agree. And we need to recruit some big guys that can shoot."

Boneyarder 1: "Hey, did you hear Vance is transferring?

Boneyarder 2: "Yeah, no big loss. He wasn't athletic enough and airballed that one shot vs SMU."

Boneyarder 1: "Agree. He sucks. His style of play doesn't fit what we're trying to do here."

He shot the ball from his chest. He can take that breast stroke back to poppa.

 

[Walker11]

I'm on the AAC website right now and he's not in the top 10 in any 3 point or even FG% category - full season or in-conference-only. Am I missing something, here?

He's in the high 20's/low 30's in almost everything.

He shot 48% in conference. Highest percentage during conference games.

 

[UConnNick]

I will say living out here in Southern California for a bit now, endorsed by others who have spent significant time here, that being fake, nice-to-your-face, and passive-aggressiveness seem to be fairly classic/common personality/behavior traits out here. Not saying that that necessarily describes Vance, and I can't blame him for disliking CT

The biggest disappointment in all this is all these kids, UConn and elsewhere, not honoring what it means to "commit" to something. I get that Vance wants to do his thing and has a pro future to hone, and that he may feel he may have a better opportunity elsewhere; but damn kid, is UConn really that unbearable?

It is if you hate ice, snow and winter weather. Attending UCONN is why I've lived in the tropics ever since.

 

[UconnU]

The statement doesn't really say why he is leaving. Any other info?

Because we're a dying program unable to compete in a crap conference in a dying state that has no hope for the future? It's pretty obvious why these kids would want to transfer.

 

[nomar]

I'm sorry but this is flat-out absurd:

“The main reason was it wasn’t the right fit for Vance to display his full skills. “It was more of a guard offense where the guards dominate the ball, and you kind of get it at the last minute. If you get it, take a shot or whatever. It was kind of dominated by the guards.

“I had conversations with the coach, I was just wondering if there was a way we could utilize him more to help the team. His skill level, there’s a lot of stuff he can do, and we weren’t on the same page with it. I’m must replying what Vance wants to do. A lot of people think it’s me, me, Vance is telling me what he wants to do and I was just trying to [explain] it to the coach. We know what he’s capable of. You got a smaller person on him, you can post him up. You got a bigger person on him, you can take him off the dribble. We want to be able to utilize the skill level to help us win. That’s it.”

First of all, you're a parent, not the coach. STFU. Second, good players get the ball. I know it was forever ago, but we once had another kid from California who was a 6'7" forward who handled the ball all the time.

Like I said earlier, I'm so happy not to read any more comments from this LaVar Ball Wannabe.

UConn Shakeup Continues: Huskies Add Raphael Chillious, Lose Vance Jackson | Zagsblog

 

[jibsey]

Vance was a very good catch and shoot shooter, he wasn't great at getting it off the dribble. Not a good handle or quick defender. He had plenty of potential to help us and this hurts, no way to sugarcoat this. Those who say we'll be better without him are not facing it. We will get someone who wants to be here.

 

[JMick]

I'm sorry but this is flat-out absurd:

“The main reason was it wasn’t the right fit for Vance to display his full skills. “It was more of a guard offense where the guards dominate the ball, and you kind of get it at the last minute. If you get it, take a shot or whatever. It was kind of dominated by the guards.

“I had conversations with the coach, I was just wondering if there was a way we could utilize him more to help the team. His skill level, there’s a lot of stuff he can do, and we weren’t on the same page with it. I’m must replying what Vance wants to do. A lot of people think it’s me, me, Vance is telling me what he wants to do and I was just trying to [explain] it to the coach. We know what he’s capable of. You got a smaller person on him, you can post him up. You got a bigger person on him, you can take him off the dribble. We want to be able to utilize the skill level to help us win. That’s it.”

First of all, you're a parent, not the coach. . Second, good players get the ball. I know it was forever ago, but we once had another kid from California who was a 6'7" forward who handled the ball all the time.

Like I said earlier, I'm so happy not to read any more comments from this LaVar Ball Wannabe.

Maybe we're better off without him. Hopefully we can just get another SF on the roster that can come in and contribute some minutes

 

[nychuskyfan]

I'm sorry but this is flat-out absurd:

“The main reason was it wasn’t the right fit for Vance to display his full skills. “It was more of a guard offense where the guards dominate the ball, and you kind of get it at the last minute. If you get it, take a shot or whatever. It was kind of dominated by the guards.

“I had conversations with the coach, I was just wondering if there was a way we could utilize him more to help the team. His skill level, there’s a lot of stuff he can do, and we weren’t on the same page with it. I’m must replying what Vance wants to do. A lot of people think it’s me, me, Vance is telling me what he wants to do and I was just trying to [explain] it to the coach. We know what he’s capable of. You got a smaller person on him, you can post him up. You got a bigger person on him, you can take him off the dribble. We want to be able to utilize the skill level to help us win. That’s it.”

First of all, you're a parent, not the coach. . Second, good players get the ball. I know it was forever ago, but we once had another kid from California who was a 6'7" forward who handled the ball all the time.

Like I said earlier, I'm so happy not to read any more comments from this LaVar Ball Wannabe.

UConn Shakeup Continues: Huskies Add Raphael Chillious, Lose Vance Jackson | Zagsblog

Translation: "I want Vance to be a chucker that shoots 20 times a game." No other explanation makes sense.

 

[nomar]

Maybe we're better off without him. Hopefully we can just get another SF on the roster that can come in and contribute some minutes

I'm just not a quitter by nature so it's hard for me to see his POV.

I like Vance the player. But it's clear to me that his father was in his ear, and that was going to be a continuing pain in the you-know-what for KO (and us).

 

[UConnNick]

Exactly what I was wondering, based on the timing. With Miller out they felt they lost his best advocate on the staff. Makes sense.

 

[Towney007]

He shot 48% in conference. Highest percentage during conference games.

Again, I'm not seeing it.

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