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jayfromfla said:
Recruiting pairs didn't work last time. One left after the last if nc.
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Yeah, you know natties are such a pain in the butt, what with having to dust the trophies and what not...
 
upstater said:
No star farm boy = 5 fouls

The guard here will sit for a year and not help, and then he'll clunk outside shots for another year while the #100 recruit, a PG, wonders when he'll get playing time over Gilbert/Vital/Jarreau
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You are actually nuts.

Farm boy was never going to see the court.

Jarreau is 6'5" - he shot 45% from the field and led UMass in assists. He played point often because...did you see UMass last year? The pipsqueak freshman they brought in from Chicago who I assume they thought would be a point guard, shot 34%, chucked up seven threes a game and only managed to average 2.3 assists per game. They needed Jarreau with the ball.

Here...he's a wing.

I have no idea what you're talking about the #100 recruit. Who is that?
 
upstater said:
No star farm boy = 5 fouls

The guard here will sit for a year and not help, and then he'll clunk outside shots for another year while the #100 recruit, a PG, wonders when he'll get playing time over Gilbert/Vital/Jarreau
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Jarreau is a guard, Gresham is a power forward.
 
The only reason you'd turn down these two is if your holding out hope we land a monster 4 player class in 2018. But the reality is we need not bank on homeruns. We need as many base hits as possible right now. Guys like this are the singles and doubles we need to take right now. So when its time to hit a home run(shittu, quickley) we have a strong nucleusfor them to step in to. And if we dont get a homerun then we still have a team that can compete and win games
 
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Jarreau had flashes of greatness esp in the OCC schedule. He almost single handily beat Ole Miss in their building in just his 2 or 3 game of the year last year. But he had flashes of atrocious play as well. He insisted that any college he went they made him a PG and Derrick Kellogg made that promise and he suck to that promise despite the fact it wasn't in best interest of the team esp in the send half of the year when Jarreau had games with more turnovers than assists. Kellogg isn't a great coach and was fired for a number of reasons but some felt he coddled Jarreau a little too much to make him happy. Jarreau appears to have the NBA bug so he is looking to improve his stock by transferring but sitting a year out won't help him get into the NBA.
 
Devon Daniels and Akoy Agau would be an improvement upon Jarreau and Gresham, especially since Agau could play right away and he would space classes better, we already have a crowded group in Gresham's class at PF.

That said, if we can get Jarreau and Gresham, the risk of a disaster in 2018-19 goes down tremendously. Alterique-Jarreau-Vital in the backcourt and Gresham-Diarra-Carlton-Cobb-Polley in the frontcourt -- we could field a team from that.
 
jayfromfla said:
Recruiting pairs didn't work last time. One left after the last if nc. The other became a malcontent and left the following year. Tag team recruiting doesn't work
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You're drawing that conclusion from one situation that resulted in us winning a national championship? Interesting logic.
 
jayfromfla said:
Recruiting pairs didn't work last time. One left after the last if nc. The other became a malcontent and left the following year. Tag team recruiting doesn't work
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We have recruited high school teammates from the same class twice at UConn in the past 20 years.

In both cases we won a National Championship before their class graduated. I will take that again for sure.

In both cases, one of the pair transferred as an underclassman due to lack of playing time.

Can you name both pairs of players?:)
 
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AntG168 said:
(shittu, quickley)
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"Huh, huh, huh"​
 
UConnSportsGuy said:
We have recruited high school teammates from the same class twice at UConn in the past 20 years.

In both cases we won a National Championship before their class graduated. I will take that again for sure.

In both cases, one of the pair transferred as an underclassman due to lack of playing time.

Can you name both pairs of players?:)
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We've already spoken about AO and Coombs-McDaniels. Didn't Voskuhl have a high school teammate sit on our bench for a year or two? I want to say Leblanc.
 
businesslawyer said:
We've already spoken about AO and Coombs-McDaniels. Didn't Voskuhl have a high school teammate sit on our bench for a year or two? I want to say Leblanc.
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It was Leblanc, who had a brief burst of playing time in '97, maybe even started a game or two, but other than that did nothing, and left after a year.
 
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I had originally written Seton Hall off on the count of only have 1 scholarship available. If this does come to fruition that would no longer be the case. Oklahoma still only has 1 scholly left for next year. UConn/Creighton 2+.

 
UConnSportsGuy said:
We have recruited high school teammates from the same class twice at UConn in the past 20 years.

In both cases we won a National Championship before their class graduated. I will take that again for sure.

In both cases, one of the pair transferred as an underclassman due to lack of playing time.

Can you name both pairs of players?:)
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Both transferred in the case of AO and Jamal Coombs-McDaniel.
 
Storrs South said:
I had originally written Seton Hall off on the count of only have 1 scholarship available. If this does come to fruition that would no longer be the case. Oklahoma still only has 1 scholly left for next year. UConn/Creighton 2+.

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Seton Hall's only chance at Duval was if Delgado came back. With Delgado and Duval they would have been a title contending type team, not anymore. Huge mistake by Delgado, amazing the advice many of these kids get.
 
ju6381 said:
If i remember correctly, LeBlanc was the much higher rated player. Don't think he liked JC's volume level.
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Exactly and JC's volume level was because he couldn't defend anyone. Kid could shoot it for sure but couldn't guard anyone and couldn't create to get his shot off. Again only there for a while but I don't think he improved enough to be much of an impact when he transferred, Vandy maybe??
 
superjohn said:
Seton Hall's only chance at Duval was if Delgado came back. With Delgado and Duval they would have been a title contending type team, not anymore. Huge mistake by Delgado, amazing the advice many of these kids get.
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Not true at all. Delgado has maxed out in college. While another year would certainly help seton hall, it would not help delgado's stock. I can give countless examples of kids who came back and hurt themselves. Look at Melo Tremble. His stock in the NBA maxed out after freshman year. He helped Maryland by coming back and cost himself millions. Delgado has done all he could in college, now it's time to get paid. Even if it's overseas, the time clock is ticking.

Plus, with the wage scale in the d-league going up, more kids will choose that route than coming back to school.
 
djct1999 said:
Not true at all. Delgado has maxed out in college. While another year would certainly help seton hall, it would not help delgado's stock. I can give countless examples of kids who came back and hurt themselves. Look at Melo Tremble. His stock in the NBA maxed out after freshman year. He helped Maryland by coming back and cost himself millions. Delgado has done all he could in college, now it's time to get paid. Even if it's overseas, the time clock is ticking.

Plus, with the wage scale in the d-league going up, more kids will choose that route than coming back to school.
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He could leave, go play overseas, make maybe $100k likely less, and eventually have to pay $40k for his last year of school out of pocket. Or he could come back, be on the best team Seton Hall has had in a very long time, get his degree in exchange, and go to Europe the following year. Wouldn't fault him either way, but it's not like he has NBA draft potential to worry about losing. Both are reasonable choices.
 
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djct1999 said:
Not true at all. Delgado has maxed out in college. While another year would certainly help seton hall, it would not help delgado's stock. I can give countless examples of kids who came back and hurt themselves. Look at Melo Tremble. His stock in the NBA maxed out after freshman year. He helped Maryland by coming back and cost himself millions. Delgado has done all he could in college, now it's time to get paid. Even if it's overseas, the time clock is ticking.

Plus, with the wage scale in the d-league going up, more kids will choose that route than coming back to school.
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Maxed out? He isn't much of an athlete so could gain a little bit of explosion but he is close to maxed out there but to say he's maxed out as a player is asinine. Delgado has no jumpshot, the only chance a player with his athleticism has of making it in the league as a power forward is to develop a knock down elbow jumper. He could absolutely help his stock with another year of development.
 
KSC94 said:
He could leave, go play overseas, make maybe $100k likely less, and eventually have to pay $40k for his last year of school out of pocket. Or he could come back, be on the best team Seton Hall has had in a very long time, get his degree in exchange, and go to Europe the following year. Wouldn't fault him either way, but it's not like he has NBA draft potential to worry about losing. Both are reasonable choices.
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I wonder how much they get paid in china. That Harrellson kid from Kentucky dominated there. Delgado is an absolutely monster compared to him. Dude can probably make a nice chunk of change over there.
 
superjohn said:
Maxed out? He isn't much of an athlete so could gain a little bit of explosion but he is close to maxed out there but to say he's maxed out as a player is asinine. Delgado has no jumpshot, the only chance a player with his athleticism has of making it in the league as a power forward is to develop a knock down elbow jumper. He could absolutely help his stock with another year of development.
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Go back and listen to what scouts say......Delgado has done all he could at Seton Hall. He will not improve his stock by coming back to school. I am not saying he will get drafted, I am just saying going back to school will simply cost him a year of getting paid.
 
KSC94 said:
He could leave, go play overseas, make maybe $100k likely less, and eventually have to pay $40k for his last year of school out of pocket. Or he could come back, be on the best team Seton Hall has had in a very long time, get his degree in exchange, and go to Europe the following year. Wouldn't fault him either way, but it's not like he has NBA draft potential to worry about losing. Both are reasonable choices.
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Or he can collect a nice check overseas and if education matters to him, come back to get his degree once his athletic career ends. Or do it online, on off days. Seton Hall will always be there. The opportunity to earn a living playing a game won't be.
 
I'm curious the big player here is Jarreau although Gresham has potential. Not sure we've heard anything at all since the word came out, is there serious consideration from both sides? Was there ever a connection with Ko/UC and either?

Thx
 
mauconnfan said:
I'm curious the big player here is Jarreau although Gresham has potential. Not sure we've heard anything at all since the word came out, is there serious consideration from both sides? Was there ever a connection with Ko/UC and either?

Thx
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Haven't seen much other than just tweets saying UConn is in the running. Storrs South was able to eliminate a few due to not having enough room for two scholarships, but other than that it seems to be mostly speculation
 
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