UConn to Big XII Imminent?

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Road trips would include visits to multiple schools per trip in the midwest, south and west so that mitigates the travel issue
Each power conference has more travel now
WVU has been on a remote island since 2012. Now it has Cincy, UCF, hopefully UConn and there will most likely be other eastern programs coming

Is that how it works in college hoops? Like if there’s a game Sunday, Wednesday, Sunday we would travel straight to the other places?

Yeah it’s an issue that all the power conferences have to deal with. Only the SEC still makes sense geographically because they really only added the Texas schools which are right there.

Those PAC-12 schools that joined the Big Ten are going to rack up MILES though.

 

[TheCatsLair]

Conference realignment is a perfect example of why egotistical blowhards should stay out of important business decisions.

The only smart dealers have been the SEC.
B1G screwed up with Rutgers but could afford to make that mistake - whether their West coast move works is yet to be determined.
Both are vulnerable to greed. Sooner or later the power teams will start complaining about the Indiana’s and Minnesota’s not contributing.

Big 12 seems passable. But grabbing UCF and BYU is dumb. They probably didn’t think PAC schools would be available so soon.

ACC has been stupid from the start. UWV and Cincinnati should be there with UConn. Tulane would’ve be much wiser than CalTex.

BYU raised the Big 12 per school payout by 2 million per school. That's not a guess, that was reported by industry experts to The Athletic. UCF provided access to the Florida market as well as a program that had been successful in football along with BYU. The Big 12 TV deal was so high mainly thanks to access to markets like Ohio, Houston and Florida and a solid brand like BYU. If the Legacy 8 had simply merged with the Four Corners the deal would have been smaller. Fox wanted the more Eastern schools and BYU. If they wanted the Four Corners they would have paid for the Pac.

 

[upstater]

The Big 12 payout is higher than the ACC's. The Big 12, on average, pays 46 to 47 million per school, the ACC 43 to 44 million per school.

You're counting the buy-ins and the reduced payouts. You have to do the average of the contract which is 29.375m.

The ACC's contract is ramping up now will easily exceed the B12.

The real questions is what happens to the 2 conferences in 2031 & 32.

The ACC has the coastline and dense people-heavy markets. But will they stay together? If they do, they'll easily beat the B12 as far as $$ is concerned

 

[KryHavok]

The Big Ten has also spurned you numerous times. Would you decline and invite from them?

What are you talking about? There was never a public courtship between the BIG and UConn. Yes, they took Rutgers over UConn, but nobody here is shocked that the BIG never voted on UConn as we were never a serious candidate for them. Now, IF they were to invite UConn, the answer is yes before the question is finished, but that is not what is going on here.

 

[upstater]

BYU raised the Big 12 per school payout by 2 million per school. That's not a guess, that was reported by industry experts to The Athletic. UCF provided access to the Florida market as well as a program that had been successful in football along with BYU. The Big 12 TV deal was so high mainly thanks to access to markets like Ohio, Houston and Florida and a solid brand like BYU. If the Legacy 8 had simply merged with the Four Corners the deal would have been smaller. Fox wanted the more Eastern schools and BYU. If they wanted the Four Corners they would have paid for the Pac.

Again, you have to consider the half payouts and the buy-ins. It's inflating the per school payout for the old-timers.

The fairest way to do this would be to look at the conference's total payout and divide that by the members.

The ACC is the same way with SMU not getting any money and also paying in.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

But it is a small school compared to all those schools you mentioned. It's a really niche school. I can only compare it to a Wake Forest or a Boston College.

And, Baylor and TCU. Historically, 3 heavily regional, small private schools, each with fairly large endowments, relatively affluent student populations, etc. More recently, each broadening regular student recruiting to more national target markets.

 

[Kolumbo]

Is that how it works in college hoops? Like if there’s a game Sunday, Wednesday, Sunday we would travel straight to the other places?

Yeah it’s an issue that all the power conferences have to deal with. Only the SEC still makes sense geographically because they really only added the Texas schools which are right there.

Those PAC-12 schools that joined the Big Ten are going to rack up MILES though.

I'm pretty sure that's how it works. I am sure UConn would travel to the Kansases or the Texas programs during the same trips.

The biggest frauds are Stanford and Cal. Their travel was bad enough in the PAC 12. Now they will be traveling to the Atlantic Coast all year. Perhaps on solar powered jets.

 

[uconnyankee]

I'm pretty sure that's how it works. I am sure UConn would travel to the Kansases or the Texas programs during the same trips.

The biggest frauds are Stanford and Cal. Their travel was bad enough in the PAC 12. Now they will be traveling to the Atlantic Coast all year. Perhaps on solar powered jets.

No. I think there is a plan to utilize SMU as halfway point and play games there (Olympic sports)

 

[noeynox]

Perhaps because they are clueless?

Or maybe you are. These people have access to information the rest of those don't and continue to try and make this happen. That should be clue #1 for you.

 

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I'm pretty sure that's how it works. I am sure UConn would travel to the Kansases or the Texas programs during the same trips.

The biggest frauds are Stanford and Cal. Their travel was bad enough in the PAC 12. Now they will be traveling to the Atlantic Coast all year. Perhaps on solar powered jets.

That would be helpful.

And yeah they’re nuts. Their programs are bad enough as is without sending them to the opposite coast all season. The jetlag is going to be insane.

 

[Stinger92860]

You’ll still get paid what you are worth.

Actually I believe you get paid what someone else believes you are worth. Interesting example: Home buyers offering more than the listed price of the house.

It appears that the B12 advisory firm believes UConn is worth the add, as does Yormark.

 

[Kolumbo]

Actually I believe you get paid what someone else believes you are worth. Interesting example: Home buyers offering more than the listed price of the house.

It appears that the B12 advisory firm believes UConn is worth the add, as does Yormark.

Right now houses are going for well over asking because of low inventory. Sounds to me like the Big 12 should be ponying up a premium for UConn.

Last we heard was meetings were continuing yesterday. Do we have any updates or have discussions paused?

 

[huskymedic]

Last we heard was meetings were continuing yesterday. Do we have any updates or have discussions paused?

I’m not sure about that… which article had that. Last I saw discussion continued and that nothing/vote was imminent (I was reading that as discussions/not meetings.

There is so much rehash of the same day just to stretch a story…

 

[HuskyHawk]

And, Baylor and TCU. Historically, 3 heavily regional, small private schools, each with fairly large endowments, relatively affluent student populations, etc. More recently, each broadening regular student recruiting to more national target markets.

Baylor is pretty good sized and made the original cut for the Big XII with UT, A&M and TT when the Big 8 raided the SWC. TCU, SMU, Houston and Rice did not.

In any event, it doesn't matter. UConn isn't landing in any conference where all the schools are the ones most like UConn. None of these conferences have schools less like UConn than the Big East already does.

I can arguments for the ACC or Big XII. For me, being with KU and K-State would be cool and being back with BC, Pitt and Syracuse would as well. Once I'm part time in SC, Clemson would be a plus if they stay. But the truth is we go with whoever invites us.

 

[CL82]

I can arguments for the ACC or Big XII

Which is the better choice? The one that actually invites us.

 

[Rufus]

I think the Big 12 offers more stability for UConn going forward. The ACC is going to be torn apart, so the grouping of schools in the ACC will be uncertain at best. Some of those ACC schools could end up in the Big 12.

The B1G is the dream landing spot, but if that can't happen, I think the Big 12 is the best bet.

 

[bendm]

The Big 12 payout is higher than the ACC's. The Big 12, on average, pays 46 to 47 million per school, the ACC 43 to 44 million per school.

where are you getting those numbers? the big12 tv deal pays $31/school and the ACC pays 30/school. if youre talking about overall distribution then that is over $40mill/school for the big12 but that number is subject to lots of variables eg NCAA tournament units, bowl revenue and new College Football Playoff revenue.

 

[billybud]

The ACC pays about 10 million per for ACCN and B12 has no conference network

 

[businesslawyer]

Perhaps because they are clueless?

It’s possible. But do you really think that’s how the smart money would bet it?

 

[jostar1]

 

[JohnFSilver]

Brett Yormark is the only power conference commissioner who's been advocating for us. You won't see the B1G or SEC commissioners going after us. And forget the ACC, been dumped on by that league enough.

ACC is political. They are failing ACC.

There will realign after all this is done and geography will matter again as they fix the sport. Right now, ya gotta find your place in the mix.

 

[Zissou]

UConn should proactively have “talks” with the ACC. Don’t let the B12 presidents think they are the only option.

 

[LoyalFanCT]

UConn should proactively have “talks” with the ACC. Don’t let the B12 presidents think they are the only option.

totally agree!

 

[ZooCougar]

UConn should deal with Yormark in good faith. If the ACC wants to talk to us we will listen.

The ACC isn’t going anywhere.

 

[giddyup]

At this point I don’t imminent means what i think it means.

 

[Bongo Fury]

You think they’d get enough votes? Florida State and Clemson would lose their minds which I would enjoy if it could happen.

 

[ec33]

UConn should proactively have “talks” with the ACC. Don’t let the B12 presidents think they are the only option.

UConn (and their fans) should also keep in mind that here in the mid-2020s, the Big East is a perfectly fine place to be.

A move is more about the future than the present.

 

[JohnFSilver]

UConn should deal with Yormark in good faith. If the ACC wants to talk to us we will listen.

The ACC isn’t going anywhere.

The ACC pays about 10 million per for ACCN and B12 has no conference network

So what? Big 12 a better league.

 

[AllHusky]

UConn should deal with Yormark in good faith. If the ACC wants to talk to us we will listen.

The ACC isn’t going anywhere.

Funny, that’s what everybody thinks about us , we’ll always be here. I know nothing beyond the end of my nose, but does the B1G just sit for GOR expiration, and who is prioritized?
1. UNC
2. ????

 

[UConnJim]

Baylor is pretty good sized and made the original cut for the Big XII with UT, A&M and TT when the Big 8 raided the SWC. TCU, SMU, Houston and Rice did not.

Baylor got the nod for the Big 12 at the time because Ann Richards, the Texas governor at the time, was a Baylor grad.