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UConn to Big XII Imminent?

nelsonmuntz said:
NO ONE has any idea what the college football business model will look like in 4 years. It seems like pre-salary cap baseball, where the top programs dominate because they can and are willing to pay more. And dominate could look like 90-7 wins in conference games. A completely realistic scenario could end up with 10-15 schools simply dominating college football, getting all of the talent, and it simply not being worth it to even try for the other programs.

Throw everything any of us know about recruiting in the garbage. Facilities, tradition, location, are all basically irrelevant. Coach may matter a bit, but the size of the NIL paycheck is going to drive decisions. How are we, or most programs, going to compete with Michigan or USC or Georgia? The costs of running a football program are going to be MASSIVE compared to hoops. We are going to have to be prepared to lose tens of millions for multiple years before we get mediocre.

In this world, it would seem to be more likely that football simply breaks off into its own structure. I do not know if this will happen, but it is a possibility. There are so many unknowns, and the costs of getting it wrong are so massive, that I am pretty ambivalent about what comes next with the Big 12. I would MUCH prefer a similar deal with the ACC, even if it was for a little less money.
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You may be right. And if the ACC offers us a similar deal for a little less money, it will be an interesting discussion.

Of course, at the moment, no one has offered us anything.
 
UConnJim said:
Notre Dame got ~$22 million from the ACC last year. Remember, they are also playing 2 to 3 football games per year at ACC schools.
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Does the ND BS ever wear off? They last won a natty in FB in the Reagan Administration and have never won a BB title. ND is the most overrated, over hyped program in history of college sports. I guess that's the magic?
 
I really don't know guys. If we get good votes at the rate we are getting them we would make it but those 6 voters could just be the ones closest to us for travel purposes

I'm hopping Yormark gives the best presentation of his life tomorrow but I'm not getting my hopes up. If we go through all this just to get shot down again I don't know what I'll do

This is also terrible timing, week 1 of college football and the headline is the Big 12 got a new non-football member?
 
nelsonmuntz said:
NO ONE has any idea what the college football business model will look like in 4 years. It seems like pre-salary cap baseball, where the top programs dominate because they can and are willing to pay more. And dominate could look like 90-7 wins in conference games. A completely realistic scenario could end up with 10-15 schools simply dominating college football, getting all of the talent, and it simply not being worth it to even try for the other programs.

Throw everything any of us know about recruiting in the garbage. Facilities, tradition, location, are all basically irrelevant. Coach may matter a bit, but the size of the NIL paycheck is going to drive decisions. How are we, or most programs, going to compete with Michigan or USC or Georgia? The costs of running a football program are going to be MASSIVE compared to hoops. We are going to have to be prepared to lose tens of millions for multiple years before we get mediocre.

In this world, it would seem to be more likely that football simply breaks off into its own structure. I do not know if this will happen, but it is a possibility. There are so many unknowns, and the costs of getting it wrong are so massive, that I am pretty ambivalent about what comes next with the Big 12. I would MUCH prefer a similar deal with the ACC, even if it was for a little less money.
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The ACC is frozen. ESPN did that purposely and the Universities basically capitulated for temporary security. And right now no one trusts each other. It's every man for himself. You want us to step into that mess of uncertainly after writing an entire dissertation warning us about uncertainty? No thanks.
 
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Until morale improves, I'm hoping.
 
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Jimdish255 said:
Not sure why not Colorado. Lots of CU Alums in CT/NY. And lots of CT natives live or visit there often. Also good academics and similar sports interest.
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Also, for those five schools that just joined the Big 12 last year, pushing UConn aside in the process (except Colorado - they were ahead of us), it would seem both small-minded and sleazy for them to turn around and say "no" to UConn in this situation. Very bad karma. Just look at Boston College.
 
ninety-nine said:
Also, for those five schools that just joined the Big 12 last year, pushing UConn aside in the process (except Colorado - they were ahead of us), it would seem both small-minded and sleazy for them to turn around and say "no" to UConn in this situation. Very bad karma. Just look at Boston College.
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They don't care about our feelings. And do you really think Colorado has interest in us after the Deion era?
 
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Something more than exit visas better be Imminent

There are no other elite football programs out there, but we have elite basketball. What difference does it make how good the football program is as an independent. There are elite football programs and there is everyone else. The Big 12 is about as deep as it gets with "everyone else" which will lift UConn Football. Bring UConn now and it gives the XII the edge and leverage on programs fleeing the ACC.

I figure there are 3 likely groups in the voting
  1. Original Big XII (8) - They may be hesitant but they also should want to expand east and keep ahead of and block the ACC
  2. Corner 4 plus BYU (5) - They have their western flank and were themselves saved by the Big XII. They should be fine with UConn
  3. AAC pickups (3) - They should want another eastern player yesterday. Or they may be pulling a Syracuse/bcu play by pulling up the ladder behind them, those selfish bastards
 
From the article referred to above, sounds like this isn’t going to happen. If they had the votes, it would have happened today. Nothing is going to change.
 
From the article referred to above, sounds like this isn’t going to happen. If they had the votes, it would have happened today. Nothing is going to change.
 
Sea Goat said:
Does the ND BS ever wear off? They last won a natty in FB in the Reagan Administration and have never won a BB title. ND is the most overrated, over hyped program in history of college sports. I guess that's the magic?
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You don’t understand market power? College football is not a meritocracy.
 
NHRich said:
From the article referred to above, sounds like this isn’t going to happen. If they had the votes, it would have happened today. Nothing is going to change.
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Yeah. I was still holding my breath when it was reported no vote was taken because no vote was scheduled but then it comes out if the vote was today it woulda been 6-2 with 8 undecideds. Hope we’re wrong.
 
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NHRich said:
From the article referred to above, sounds like this isn’t going to happen. If they had the votes, it would have happened today. Nothing is going to change.
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UConn might not get the votes when it’s all said and done, but the vote was never planned for today according to one of the writers (I am forgetting who at the moment)
 
Drew said:
www.cbssports.com

Big 12 presidents pitched on potential UConn addition, but lack of consensus likely to prolong decision

CBS Sports verified that six Big 12 schools are in favor of adding the Huskies if a vote were taken today
www.cbssports.com www.cbssports.com
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This is the line that struck me as a deal breaker

In addition, sources close to the situation tell CBS Sports that TV partner Fox is against the move. Adding UConn to the Big 12 would not only devalue the Big East's contract that Fox completed just two months ago, it would also require amending the Big 12 contract. That contract, with partner ESPN, is worth $2.3 billion and runs through the end of the 2031 academic year.

That doesn't mean a deal couldn't be struck in the future after further discussions.

The previous report that it was a net zero revenue seems false as Fox is totally not onboard and I get why. The article also stated that football is a major concern still. Seems Yormark's move to add FB at a later date isn't working.
 
CR started out fast and furious. Objectives change. Pieces are more scarce. UConn is a very unique situation requiring more analysis. I don't think the timing is a plus or a minus, there is certainly going to be more negotiations than usual. I am most hopeful, yet prepared.


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gsmooth said:
UConn might not get the votes when it’s all said and done, but the vote was never planned for today according to one of the writers (I am forgetting who at the moment)
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Exactly. And there won’t be a vote unless they have the votes. It will just die on the vine.
 
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I read the Dodd piece.

How dumb are people to think that adding UConn hurts big 12 in the college playoff currently?

That makes no sense. Big 12 is going to have a spot every year for its champion.

It will probably get two teams in in most years, regardless of UConn is u. League or not.

What a ridiculous thing to be worried about considering we are in a 12-team era and that this doesn’t happen until 2031.
 
JohnFSilver said:
I read the Dodd piece.

How dumb are people to think that adding UConn hurts big 12 in the college playoff currently?

That makes no sense. Big 12 is going to have a spot every year for its champion.

It will probably get two teams in in most years, regardless of UConn is u. League or not.

What a ridiculous thing to be worried about considering we are in a 12-team era and that this doesn’t happen until 2031.
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They need to come up with reasons besides "we just don't want to add them"
 
UCFBfan said:
This is the line that struck me as a deal breaker

In addition, sources close to the situation tell CBS Sports that TV partner Fox is against the move. Adding UConn to the Big 12 would not only devalue the Big East's contract that Fox completed just two months ago, it would also require amending the Big 12 contract. That contract, with partner ESPN, is worth $2.3 billion and runs through the end of the 2031 academic year.

That doesn't mean a deal couldn't be struck in the future after further discussions.

The previous report that it was a net zero revenue seems false as Fox is totally not onboard and I get why. The article also stated that football is a major concern still. Seems Yormark's move to add FB at a later date isn't working.
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It's still net zero revenue if they amend the deal in order for ESPN to chip in a few extra bucks to bring in UConn while Fox doesn't change anything in the B12 deal and nothing else for any of the other members changes. And it has been reported that ESPN is in fact interested in bringing in UConn.
 
JohnFSilver said:
I read the Dodd piece.

How dumb are people to think that adding UConn hurts big 12 in the college playoff currently?

That makes no sense. Big 12 is going to have a spot every year for its champion.

It will probably get two teams in in most years, regardless of UConn is u. League or not.

What a ridiculous thing to be worried about considering we are in a 12-team era and that this doesn’t happen until 2031.
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Seems to me most of these schools are afraid not that we will be bad but we will succeed. UConn has proven ability to build winning teams even football when we had an even playing field.

These schools for years have had lots of money flowing in and many have done nothing on the field or court. Can you imagine UConn coming in and being successful in football make them all look like the money whores they are with no results. Presidents and ADs have nice salaries from all this TV money.

We will be in top half of conference in football fairly soon with Mora at the helm.
 
JohnFSilver said:
I read the Dodd piece.

How dumb are people to think that adding UConn hurts big 12 in the college playoff currently?

That makes no sense. Big 12 is going to have a spot every year for its champion.

It will probably get two teams in in most years, regardless of UConn is u. League or not.

What a ridiculous thing to be worried about considering we are in a 12-team era and that this doesn’t happen until 2031.
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Its probably fair from an SOS point
 
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