UConn basketball....

[Huskybass]

Well impressed with himself or not he makes a lot more sense than your dream team that's for damn sure.

Every fan of the program should expect far better than the shitshow we have witnessed over the past 3 seasons. We can't even fill out a roster anymore. Having 10 scholarship players in late May is pathetic.

 

[UConnNick]

I am glad that I don't overreact like some of my fellow boneyard family members and like some media heads out there. Coach KO will lead our beloved Huskies to a bounce back season where we make the NCAA tournament and get back to solid skill development and continued academic success. We will be okay, fellow boneyard family. R-E-L-A-X.

I nominate this post for the Pollyanna of the Day award. In tribute, here's a brief video. I'm not sure it's supposed to be, but it's hilarious. It reminds me of the Jets - Raiders 1968 playoff game on NBC which was pre-empted by the movie "Heidi", the day the networks first discovered you do not screw with NFL playoff football, especially in overtime.

I for one am very glad to have UConn basketball, regardless of what may happen in the future. I think we all are.

 

[mauconnfan]

All things are subject to interpretation, whichever interpretation prevails is a function of power, not truth

Every fan of the program should expect far better than the shitshow we have witnessed over the past 3 seasons. We can't even fill out a roster anymore. Having 10 scholarship players in late May is pathetic.

Any so-called fan that believes it's an actual shitshow and is that spoiled to only see it that way doesn't deserve . Pitiful from my point of view but to each their own.

 

[JMick]

Any so-called fan that believes it's an actual shitshow and is that spoiled to only see it that way doesn't deserve . Pitiful from my point of view but to each their own.

I like you mau but you're way off base

 

[mauconnfan]

I like you mau but you're way off base

Same here, but nope I'm not. Been around a long time my friend, I don't "give" as easy as some of you who but that's just me.

 

[JMick]

Same here, but nope I'm not. Been around a long time my friend, I don't "give" as easy as some of you who but that's just me.

I mean, you've put me in the fire Ollie camp when I'm in wait and see mode. I just don't like where the program is heading. I don't think I've lied about anything and I don't think I deserve to be called a so-called-fan for holding our coach to high standards on and off the court.

 

[SECONN]

I mean, you've put me in the fire Ollie camp when I'm in wait and see mode. I just don't like where the program is heading. I don't think I've lied about anything and I don't think I deserve to be called a so-called-fan for holding our coach to high standards on and off the court.

Go UCONN.....lets hope the show stops here and the men surprise us next year.......

 

[Huskybass]

Any so-called fan that believes it's an actual shitshow and is that spoiled to only see it that way doesn't deserve . Pitiful from my point of view but to each their own.

I am pretty sure any objective person views that program to be in a pretty awful place right now. If you don't, you are delusional.

I feel bad for the players. They deserve far better than the "leadership" they have received.

 

[JMick]

Go UConn.....lets hope the show stops here and the men surprise us next year..

I would love nothing more.

 

[UCDaveD]

Any so-called fan that believes it's an actual shitshow and is that spoiled to only see it that way doesn't deserve . Pitiful from my point of view but to each their own.

"So-called fan"

Okay, guy.

 

[mauconnfan]

I am pretty sure any objective person views that program to be in a pretty awful place right now. If you don't, you are delusional.

Yeah I've said it's in a prefect place so may times right bass. Can you even read?

Please stop with the delusional BS your just a pessimistic SOB, broken freakin record. Congrats.

 

[mauconnfan]

"So-called fan"

Okay, guy.

Was I talking to you? LOL thanks for answering though you figured it out GUY!

 

[Chief00]

Chief - I realize you are the biggest Calhoun apologist on here. But it was a known fact around the program in his last few years that he paid less and less attention to details like the consequences of pushing guys like Doug Wiggins and Darius Smith out without making sure they were in good academic standing upon leaving. And the combination of the Nate Miles scandal which led to Patrick Sellers and Beau Archibald being fired, the APR tournament ban in 2013, and the negative recruiting against us because of Calhoun's career almost being at an end (all of this has been noted as fact in newspaper articles dating back to those years - do some research and look it up) absolutely hurt our recruiting up through the 2013 and 2014 seasons... not to mention the transfers that all but gutted the 2012 class.

And yet you want to say that none of that was Calhoun's fault or responsibility? That is a purely nonsensical take Chief.

By the way, saying that Calhoun was the greatest basketball program builder that we have ever seen and one of the 3 to 5 best men's college basketball coaches ever BUT that he also dropped some significant balls over his last few years that hurt our talent level and depth while also hurting our reputation as a program at the end and the first several years after his departure are not mutually exclusive. I was raised by a Navy man who had a "Captain of the ship" mentality. Knowing Calhoun and his upbringing and coaching style, he has a similar mentality. Well sorry, but he was the captain of the ship at that time.

That having been said, I will always be thankful for the amazing coach that he was, and how he helped to enrich my life and sports fandom while at UConn and for the 2 1/2 decades since. Dickie V is definitely one of the all time blowhards, but he was spot on when he called Calhoun the "Michelangelo" of men's college basketball.

Jim recruited the top HS basketball player in the country for the 2011/2012 season, so much for your theory!
So you wanted Calhoun to focus on ensuring Doug Wiggins would graduate? You got to be kidding - if ever there was a fools mission.
The guy who was responsible for academic support was Jeff Hathaway not Jim Calhoun. Jim's job was to recruit, coach and win basketball games. He did ok!

 

[UCDaveD]

Was I talking to you? LOL thanks for answering though you figured it out GUY!

If not being satisfied with 3 straight sub par seasons, 3 transfers, the decommitment of our only stud recruit, a worse recruiting class than powerhouses like Stephen F Austin, DePaul, Middle Tenn St, UTEP, & Tulsa, and not being able to get the time of day from top-100 prospects makes me a "bad fan" then so be it. And god forbid anyone believe the $3million/yr head coach be held accountable.

No one is saying to fire Ollie this very second. What people are saying is that should we have another dud season, it should be strongly considered. And the way things are looking now, that seems more likely than not.

I don't see how any of that is objectionable.

 

[upstater]

What's there to twist? He's not lying just trying to let the people know who think they are sure KO will not survive and he will fail that it may not happen. Then there will be 3 posters I know who will be unhappy and fairly treated like crap by those who think otherwise. Fairly simple to me!

Lol. His standard retort is " you're a liar!" Like a 3 year old

 

[JMick]

Lol. His standard retort is " you're a liar!" Like a 3 year old

clueless

 

[Stainmaster]

If not being satisfied with 3 straight sub par seasons, 3 transfers, the decommitment of our only stud recruit, a worse recruiting class than powerhouses like Stephen F Austin, DePaul, Middle Tenn St, UTEP, & Tulsa, and not being able to get the time of day from top-100 prospects makes me a "bad fan" then so be it. And god forbid anyone believe the $3million/yr head coach be held accountable.

No one is saying to fire Ollie this very second. What people are saying is that should we have another dud season, it should be strongly considered. And the way things are looking now, that seems more likely than not.

I don't see how any of that is objectionable.

Worse than SFA, Middle Tennessee, and Tulsa?

You either have no idea what you're talking about, or you're a bald-faced liar. If I were an anti-KO poster, I'd be beyond embarrassed by you.

And to think people ask me why I give negative posters a hard time - it's because sometimes they just make up BS and spout it without any disrection. What makes it worse is you guys believe every word of his just because it confirms your own biases.

 

[Doctor Hoop]

All things are subject to interpretation, whichever interpretation prevails is a function of power, not truth

That explains a lot.

 

[JMick]

Worse than SFA, Middle Tennessee, and Tulsa?

You either have no idea what you're talking about, or you're a bald-faced liar. If I were an anti-KO poster, I'd be beyond embarrassed by you.

And to think people ask me why I give negative posters a hard time - it's because sometimes they just make up BS and spout it without any disrection. What makes it worse is you guys believe every word of his just because it confirms your own biases.

oh and the optimists here don't just make things up to fit their narrative? when you have people here whose only reason for keeping Ollie is because he won a title, it's hard to have any sort of rational argument.

 

[mauconnfan]

If not being satisfied with 3 straight sub par seasons, 3 transfers, the decommitment of our only stud recruit, a worse recruiting class than powerhouses like Stephen F Austin, DePaul, Middle Tenn St, UTEP, & Tulsa, and not being able to get the time of day from top-100 prospects makes me a "bad fan" then so be it. And god forbid anyone believe the $3million/yr head coach be held accountable.

No one is saying to fire Ollie this very second. What people are saying is that should we have another dud season, it should be strongly considered. And the way things are looking now, that seems more likely than not.

I don't see how any of that is objectionable.

NO one said he shouldn't be held accountable and no one is giving him a pass, please read more than one sentence. You 3 stooges have your view of things and that's fine, just try to be objective and try a positive spin on something...anything you guys might actually like it if you try. Then again, maybe not.

 

[mauconnfan]

oh and the optimists here don't just make things up to fit their narrative? when you have people here whose only reason for keeping Ollie is because he won a title, it's hard to have any sort of rational argument.

Wrong he had them play for the "UCONN" other shirt after people left Calhoun, not Ollie. Do you guys even remember that, it wasn't KO they left it was Jim Calhoun. And they played their a**ses off and won 20 without anything to play for.

They with some guys JC never even played and other players he won a National Championship, yep imagine that huh? And he also won 23 games and an AAC tourney title and a NCAA tourney game which you guys prefer to call a crappy year. I mean when were you guys born in '99? Geez it's ridiculous.

 

[JMick]

NO one said he shouldn't be held accountable and no one is giving him a pass, please read more than one sentence. You 3 stooges have your view of things and that's fine, just try to be objective and try a positive spin on something...anything you guys might actually like it if you try. Then again, maybe not.

Mau, you can't be both objective & put a positive spin on something.

Wrong he had them play for the "UConn" other shirt after people left Calhoun, not Ollie. Do you guys even remember that, it wasn't KO they left it was Jim Calhoun. And they played their a**ses off and won 20 without anything to play for

They with some guys JC never even played and other players he won a National Championship, yep imagine that huh? And he also won 23 games and an AAC tourney title and a NCAA tourney game which you guys prefer to call a crappy year. I mean when were you guys born in '99? Geez it's ridiculous.

23 wins and finishing 6th in the AAC is crappy for this program. It's not nearly as bad as the NIT or 15-17 but it's still bad. Since the title and divorce Ollie hasn't been the same and neither has the program. It's a pretty simple timeline.

 

[upstater]

Wrong he had them play for the "UConn" other shirt after people left Calhoun, not Ollie. Do you guys even remember that, it wasn't KO they left it was Jim Calhoun. And they played their a**ses off and won 20 without anything to play for.

They with some guys JC never even played and other players he won a National Championship, yep imagine that huh? And he also won 23 games and an AAC tourney title and a NCAA tourney game which you guys prefer to call a crappy year. I mean when were you guys born in '99? Geez it's ridiculous.

That's where 10 toes in originated. Alex Oriakhi, Roscoe Smith, Michael Bradley all left. Incoming class of Brimah, Samuel and Facey was underwhelming. The pessimists and complaints about Ollie went thru the roof in February. Deandre Daniels was a bust.

Funny too that a similar thing was said about the Napier, Giffey, Roscoe Smith, Olander class. Just dreadful.

 

[UConnNick]

Wrong he had them play for the "UConn" other shirt after people left Calhoun, not Ollie. Do you guys even remember that, it wasn't KO they left it was Jim Calhoun. And they played their a**ses off and won 20 without anything to play for.

They with some guys JC never even played and other players he won a National Championship, yep imagine that huh? And he also won 23 games and an AAC tourney title and a NCAA tourney game which you guys prefer to call a crappy year. I mean when were you guys born in '99? Geez it's ridiculous.

But if one conveniently chooses to selectively ignore all of these facts, it makes it easier to support one's position that Ollie is clueless and should be coaching AAU ball.

 

[Stainmaster]

oh and the optimists here don't just make things up to fit their narrative? when you have people here whose only reason for keeping Ollie is because he won a title, it's hard to have any sort of rational argument.

Please point out any instances where optimists said they thought we were recruiting on a Duke/UK/Arizona level. That's the only equivalent I can think of. There are certain instances where bothsidesism is at play. This is not one of them. Literally none of the posters who are critical of KO called him out, they just egged him on.

 

[JMick]

But if one conveniently chooses to selectively ignore all of these facts, it makes it easier to support one's position that Ollie is clueless and should be coaching AAU ball.

how about the fact that since the title things have gone poorly? One great year, one exceptional year, divorce, three bad years. I'm trying to lead you people to water and you refuse to drink

 

[JMick]

Please point out any instances where optimists said they thought we were recruiting on a Duke/UK/Arizona level. That's the only equivalent I can think of. There are certain instances where bothsidesism is at play. This is not one of them. Literally none of the posters who are critical of KO called him out, they just egged him on.

we have "optimists" here arguing that we should be satisfied with how we have played because since the title the results have been as expected.

 

[Stainmaster]

we have "optimists" here arguing that we should be satisfied with how we have played because since the title the results have been as expected.

Not equivalent in any way, shape, or form. Sorry.

People who believe our recruiting is worse than SFA and Middle Tennessee are simply not grounded in reality and should not be taken seriously. You can't complain about the quality of discourse and then turn an blind eye just because your expectations are as high as his.

 

[JMick]

Not equivalent in any way, shape, or form. Sorry.

People who believe our recruiting is worse than SFA and Middle Tennessee are simply not grounded in reality and should not be taken seriously. You can't complain about the quality of discourse and then turn an blind eye just because your expectations are as high as his.

and strawmaster strikes again. pick the one sentence you can hone in on and just talk it to death. you should know better than to lead the folks here astray

 

[UConnNick]

how about the fact that since the title things have gone poorly? One great year, one exceptional year, divorce, three bad years. I'm trying to lead you people to water and you refuse to drink

Maybe some people would, but I for one am not willing to characterize the past three years as "bad". The first was clearly an under achieving season true, I'll grant you that one, but the second of those three was a finish in the top 32 teams in the country, and this most recent season is a complete wash as far as I'm concerned because John Wooden could have been coaching the team and we probably finish out about the way we did. We suffered
a horrendous number of injuries, both early and throughout the season.

I view it as two fantastic seasons, one disappointing one, one sort of neutral, average year, maybe not up to UConn standards but by no means the total disaster it's being portrayed as, and one WTF throwaway season that doesn't even count in the grand scheme of things as far as I'm concerned. What did anyone reasonably expect to happen after we lose Larrier, Gilbert and Diarra for all or virtually the entire year, and a few other players for fairly significant stretches along the rest of the way? We suited up six scholarship players for a three week period, I believe it was.

Ollie may not be the best coach in the world, and maybe he needs to be replaced sometime in the near or more distant future, I don't know. What I do know is I'm not going to throw him under the bus right now based on one subpar season out of five, in my view, keeping in mind that I don't even count the season that just ended, because again, Wooden wouldn't have done any better with what we had to work with. To argue otherwise means you have to accept that Ollie should have taken us to the NCAAs with what, six or seven scholarship players for most of the season, and we should always make it to the Sweet 16 every single year? If that's the standard, you folks are going to be in for a fair amount of disappointment, whether Ollie or anybody else is our coach.