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What the hell do you think Syracuse adds that is so superior to what UCONN would add? Please enlighten me.
 
huskyrob1 said:
No it's not, West Virginia since 2012 has only had one winning season in its conference, all the other years their record was sub 500 in their conference. Even HCRE and Maryland killed them one year like 39-0.
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I'll stand corrected on that one. Guess I should say, football "potential". Low academic barrier and rabid fanbase. Sucks for them they haven't taken advantage.
 
West Virginia is never going to the ACC.

They were desperate when they invited Louisville, but they're not going to swallow another academic crapstorm in a market that's already covered with Pitt and Virginia Tech. West Virginia has to pray that the Big 12 stays together or they're American-bound.

Hell, if the Big 12 had a time machine, even they'd go back and take Louisville instead of West Virginia.
 
intlzncster said:
I'll stand corrected on that one. Guess I should say, football "potential". Low academic barrier and rabid fanbase. Sucks for them they haven't taken advantage.
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His statements are false, if that matters to you.
 
walker11 said:
What the hell do you think Syracuse adds that is so superior to what UConn would add? Please enlighten me.
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This is about what uconn adds (cuse is already in) and the answer is, not enough. Acc needs to pander to the football schools and uconn just doesnt have it in this category.
 
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jgeorge322 said:
This is about what UConn adds and the answer is, not enough.
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OK and what options to UCONN are so vastly superior that UCONN shouldn't even be "seriously" considered? The ACC is in no rush to add a school, obviously, but when they eventually do, I am having a difficult time seeing any schools that are better fits. You are just as biased as we are.
 
walker11 said:
OK and what options to UConn are so vastly superior that UConn shouldn't even be "seriously" considered? The ACC is in no rush to add a school, obviously, but when they eventually do, I am having a difficult time seeing any schools that are better fits. You are just as biased as we are.
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The article linked to in the OP says it all. We're next. We've been next for a long time and will likely continue to be next for a long time. But make no mistake, we're next.
 
intlzncster said:
I'll stand corrected on that one. Guess I should say, football "potential". Low academic barrier and rabid fanbase. Sucks for them they haven't taken advantage.
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They had their shot when Rich Rod was their coach. They also bring nothing whatsoever now TV market wise, their TV market is ranked 293 nationally. Compare that to East Carolina which is 238. The ACC wants the NY market to Boston corridor more than anything, UCONN gives them that on a silver platter. I'm confident that HCRE is going to bring UCONN football back to some degree of respect, I also think many in the ACC hierarchy believe that as well.
 
jgeorge322 said:
His statements are false, if that matters to you.
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FALSE???? UCONN has 15 national championships in mens and women's basketball, and two revered coaches. Plus several NC's in other sports. Couple that with really good academics, can ANY school in the country with the possible exception of UCLA, come close to that????
 
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It's all about TV contracts, right? If that's the case we aren't going to change a huge number of TVs for football - maybe some amount in CT but not enough to make up for the slice of pie they have to give us. But when you're talking basketball, you are going to change a lot more TVs when it comes to UConn vs Cuse, Pitt, ND, Ville and even BC. That's where we pay back the smaller slice of pie for every other team. That and hopefully tourney shares once we are back on the national level. The women also add a lot more TVs than they cost from the women's side.

It's a business and UConn simply has to provide a better value for being added than anyone else (while not dragging down conference credibility on an academic level). If the math works, we get an invite. If it doesn't, we don't. It's not any more complicated than that.
 
walker11 said:
OK and what options to UConn are so vastly superior that UConn shouldn't even be "seriously" considered? The ACC is in no rush to add a school, obviously, but when they eventually do, I am having a difficult time seeing any schools that are better fits. You are just as biased as we are.
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The football. I want uconn in acc but just doesnt have the football infrastructure or history needed to be required.
 
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huskyrob1 said:
FALSE???? UConn has 15 national championships in mens and women's basketball, and two revered coaches. Plus several NC's in other sports. Couple that with really good academics, can ANY school in the country with the possible exception of UCLA, come close to that????
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We were talking about wvu conference record and then you go off on a tangent.

Sorry to say but womens bball isnt getting you in acc.
 
jgeorge322 said:
The big east football conference was a joke by the time UConn joined. Your football program just doesnt have it.
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UConn FB is as good or better than several current ACC members (Duke, WF, Syracuse, BC, UVA).

And let's not go crazy about the value of WVU football. It's a program without titles in a state smaller than CT.
 
huskyrob1 said:
They already have one school (Louisville) with an academic ranking that's worse than Trump University. I don't think they want another headache like that.
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and how much has that matterred in this GD football crazed world that I just dont understand? Them buying this past seasons' Heisman winner basically sealed the deal for ACC fans.
 
Honestly, I think from a national perspective, in the last 15 years of college football, maybe 20, UConn football isn't regarded any worse than those ACC teams.

I'm not in CT, no one cares about any of them. In fact, they all have had basically one good, miracle bowl run but are either national jokes (Duke) or irrelevant (UConn, wake).

It doesn't seem crazy to get to that midlevel ACC program in football, the conference isn't all that loaded when you break it down, football wise.
 
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bmayuc said:
Dude u are dreaming. Our FBall team got stomped by two of those teams less than 6 months ago!!
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I'm talking about the value of the program to a conference. ND lost to Duke last year, and Michigan lost to Iowa, and Texas lost to Kansas, but that doesn't tell us anything about the relative value of those programs.
 
ConnHuskBask said:
Check out the Sagarin Conference rankings from 2004 - 2012.

Not to mention BCS bowl game performance in that period as well.
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It doesnt matter. Your fball team is burried right now and needs a lifeline to a p5. The only problem is a p5 will only take you if you have a strong fball program. Its a paradox/quagmire. Uconn simply doesnt have the history or the infrastructure. But hey, you never know.
 
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ivrytontusker said:
I'm talking about the value of the program to a conference. ND lost to Duke last year, and Michigan lost to Iowa, and Texas lost to Kansas, but that doesn't tell us anything about the relative value of those programs.
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Uconn adds zero to any conference for football purposes. Big plus w mens basketball but acc doesnt need it. Thats the problem you face.
 
David 76 said:
Even our academic violation a ways back was for not giving out fake grades and allowing kids to get the grades they earned.
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See thats your issue and has been all along. Dont argue the merits of your program but take shots at other programs. Uconn is new money that went broke. Focus on yourselves and stop filing frivolous lawsuits and maybe you will be taken seriously if you can ever get the football program off the ground and build a real stadium.
 
jgeorge322 said:
See thats your issue and has been all along. Dont argue the merits of your program but take shots at other programs.
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Coming from the guy who has now posted 19 times in this thread, each time taking a shot at UConn. What is your malfunction to post 19 times on another team's message board about conference realignment of all things?
 
jgeorge322 said:
UConn adds zero to any conference for football purposes. Big plus w mens basketball but acc doesnt need it. Thats the problem you face.
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The ACC doesn't need more basketball schools? Duke and UNC seemed to think they needed another basketball school during the 2012-13 turnover in the ACC. They reportedly wanted UConn in.

I think most people here understand "the problem we face" vis-a-vis FB, but again, UConn's FB program is (historically) comparable to programs in the lower tier of the ACC. The reason UConn wasn't admitted to the ACC in the 2012-13 period is that BC and Syracuse hate UConn and worked to keep us out.
 
jgeorge322 said:
UConn adds zero to any conference for football purposes. Big plus w mens basketball but acc doesnt need it. Thats the problem you face.
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Shouldn't you be burning couches or something?

Why do you care? WVU is in the Big 12 and with any good luck "for a change" UConn will finally get the call to a P5 and the ACC.
 
jgeorge322 said:
It doesnt matter. Your fball team is burried right now and needs a lifeline to a p5. The only problem is a p5 will only take you if you have a strong fball program. Its a paradox/quagmire. UConn simply doesnt have the history or the infrastructure. But hey, you never know.
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History? Not enough, I'd agree. Infrastructure? We have better facilities for football than most P5 programs. As with most college sports, it's mostly about coaching. I think you'll see UConn rebound to go to a bowl this year, and improve from there. What UConn adds for football is a captive market. Most other programs outside the P5 are second or third tier programs in their own market. Memphis, Houston, UCF, USF, Colo State, BYU. None of them are the most popular team in their home market or ever will be.
 
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