Tremont Waters

[EdgewoodNHV]

If true, this is terrible news. Anyone pretending we dodged a bullet by missing on a top 40 PG in our own state is in denial.

It's not great, but let's face it: the kid has never had any love for UConn. What kind of Connecticut kid's dream school is DUKE? I know New Haven isn't Storrs, but State U clearly has never resonated with the kid at all, and at the end of the day, you can't make someone want you.

Like, sure, I'd love to date the most beautiful woman on the planet, but at the end of the day, one of the biggest requirements I have in a girlfriend is that she actually wants to date me, and not my sweater vest-wearing cokehead step-brother.

Good luck to the kid, but if he has so little love for UConn that he'd rather be at Western Kentucky, then I don't know what to tell ya.

 

[Walker11]

The talk of his dad looking for a pay day is laughable to anyone following his snapchat the last 3 years. This kid isn't living in some tenement, its the complete opposite. Bag man money is chump change to how they're living. I think the parents want what's absolutely best for their kid: hence Georgetown. Great, great school. Do people honestly believe JTIII payed for him? Of course not. But some fraud on here says he's going to the highest bidder so now people act like it's a fact. 99% of the "inside" info on here is complete BS but year in and year out so many buy into it.

I think there was one person in the entire thread that suggested Waters is looking for money and he was immediately shot down. That's not what is being discussed. People are saying he wants a certain role, certain amount of minutes, etc. Money is obviously not a factor and that is not what I meant but IDK about the rest since IDK anything about his recruitment.

 

[CGarr]

People are saying he wants a certain role, certain amount of minutes, etc.

This applies to every top recruit in the history of the world.

I haven't read every single post in this thread but whenever I pop in, there is this BS speculation his dad is pimping him out.

 

[Walker11]

This applies to every top recruit in the history of the world.

I haven't read every single post in this thread but whenever I pop in, there is this BS speculation his dad is pimping him out.

Yea, no one is suggesting that from the 80% of the thread I have read. This is a stupid tangent for you to go on.

 

[CGarr]

Yea, no one is suggesting that from the 80% of the thread I have read. This is a stupid tangent for you to go on.

No, YOU'RE STUPID!
Boom, roasted.

 

[KingAG]

How do you know this?

I dont. But they clearly want something we arent going to promise them. Mutual

 

[NielsisGood]

Niels why don't you break it down to me coach? I have time, pen and pad. Certain you played, certain you are in Ollie's war room. I know you comment. I know you speculate. As for your comparison, I did not agree. And yes it was simple.

Why on earth would you expect anyone on here to waste time trying to explain anything for your benefit? Just use your pad for some doodles or something kiddo.

 

[Chief00]

I think there was one person in the entire thread that suggested Waters is looking for money and he was immediately shot down. That's not what is being discussed. People are saying he wants a certain role, certain amount of minutes, etc. Money is obviously not a factor and that is not what I meant but IDK about the rest since IDK anything about his recruitment.

True, Chief shot him down.

 

[pj]

We're one popped shoulder from being scalitoed. Let's not minimize this. We aren't a destination school for anyone right now. Kids like Heron and Waters don't even give us a serious look. That's a problem.

From another view, Heron and Waters are not destination players. Elite schools passed on both. If UConn had prostituted itself to get them, that would be a problem.

If Waters wants to come to compete for minutes on even terms with other players, to sacrifice for the team, and to be coached, then terrific! Sign him up! If there's something else he wants, then let him find a place that will offer him those things. If he comes to UConn, let him come on KO's terms.

 

[TheDude]

From another view, Heron and Waters are not destination players. Elite schools didn't give either of them a second look. If UConn had focused on them, that would be a problem.

Also UConn is a national recruiting School now, They are not phased about local kids going elsewhere

 

[djct1999]

The talk of his dad looking for a pay day is laughable to anyone following his snapchat the last 3 years. This kid isn't living in some tenement, its the complete opposite. Bag man money is chump change to how they're living. I think the parents want what's absolutely best for their kid: hence Georgetown. Great, great school. Do people honestly believe JTIII payed for him? Of course not. But some fraud on here says he's going to the highest bidder so now people act like it's a fact. 99% of the "inside" info on here is complete BS but year in and year out so many buy into it.

First off, I never said he is going to the highest bidder. All I did was explain to another poster why a recruit would have UConn on his list but not have any intention of going. It was a hypothetical. Other than that, this post is total BS. Want best for their kid? He ended up at Georgtown pretty much by default. If good education was important, Western Kentucky wouldn't be in consideration. You can say whatever you want, but everything about this kids recruitment, starting years back, reeks. There are serious reasons why it's mid April and a top 30 kid is available with limited options. There is literally nothing that suggests this is simply a parent that wants what is best for his son. Get real,

 

[mauconnfan]

This is classic BY behavior. Anyone pretending that Anderson is a good 4th guard and not a reach for UConn standards is being a homer. We wanted Waters bad and he didn't want us, end of story. Now we are focusing on bigs...what bigs??

You people amaze me. Are you one of those people who also said Kromah wasn't a good fit before he stepped foot on campus? A GWU reject many called him, similar stats and would be a piece of the puzzle for the year.

Or are people upset they couldn't land Waters? "We wanted Waters bad" - yeah because we lost a guy and rescinded a commitment I mean this kid and his dad haven't had a clue of what they wanted other than being at the biggest stage possible. The fact he doesn't want UConn, if true, isn't anyone's fault at all just like it wasn't when he announced GTown a long time ago, and when he liked Stanford, Duke and everyone but UConn over a year ago. Move on, things will work out in our favor. Anderson is the perfect plug in so they can recruit PG's who fit even better than Waters for 18 and beyond.

This end of the world stuff because some kid and his dad have huge ego's is ridiculous.

 

[djct1999]

True, Chief shot him down.

Sorry Chief, Fishy did. You were no where close on Waters.

 

[Chief00]

In any sport, in recruiting and in a game, you got to protect your own turf. You can say all you want about Enoch, Heron and Waters - but when you don't have some representation of the top instate guys on the
roster that's a major problem for a State U.

As usual in his genius, Coach Calhoun recognized that from day one and we made it a focus - Chris Smith, Scott Burrell, Maury Williams, Rash Jones, Doug Wiggins and Edmund Saunders.

KO loves to tell players either on the roster or potential recruits coming in - take it or leave it. I think you can maintain control, maintain your ego and be more successful by being more nuance. It doesn't hurt to listen - take some constructive criticism and refine your communication to get a better result. I always thought this would be a KO strength - but it's been just the opposite.

I thought the Team USA assistant coach gig was a great opportunity for a coach who could relate to players and built relationships - but he did not parley that into any success, which makes one question the underlying assumptions?

 

[Chief00]

Sorry Chief, Fishy did. You were no where close on Waters.

I shot down the pay for play aspect in this thread. As for recruiting success I never got beyond 55%. The father/son dynamic is one of the most confusing I have ever seen- not due to anyone looking for money - but it's unclear what the driving principles are in school selection?
I am beginning to think KO wants to recruit players like himself - that's fine up to a point - but we need the shooters, scorers and rebounders too.

 

[LoveMeSomeUC]

They need to hit on a top scoring guard next year. Jalen is taking so much attention from the D. This team needs a top 30-40 ranked scorer in the next recruiting class. AJ Reeves looks like a really good player, but honestly UConn needs to set their sights even higher.

Getting a top guard is crucial! I hightly doubt JA comes back for his senior season after making a public statement about coming back for junior year. Saying you talked to your family and thought about options means writing is on the wall.

 

[mauconnfan]

In any sport, in recruiting and in a game, you got to protect your own turf. You can say all you want about Enoch, Heron and Waters - but when you don't have some representation of the top instate guys on the
roster that's a major problem for a State U.

As usual in his genius, Coach Calhoun recognized that from day one and we made it a focus - Chris Smith, Scott Burrell, Maury Williams, Rash Jones, Doug Wiggins and Edmund Saunders.

KO loves to tell players either on the roster or potential recruits coming in - take it or leave it. I think you can maintain control, maintain your ego and be more successful by being more nuance. It doesn't hurt to listen - take some constructive criticism and refine your communication to get better a better result. I always thought this would be a KO strength - but it's been just the opposite.

I thought the Team USA assistant coach gig was a great opportunity for a coach who could relate to players and built relationships - but he did not parley that into any success, which makes one question the underlying assumptions?

Sorry BS meter just went up again Chief. You certainly want your top in state players, if they are worthy and if they care about their state. But let's be honest the state isn't growing studs at the rate it may have yesteryear when Bridgeport, New Haven and Hartford had ample supply of players who were D1 worthy. Steve Enoch said yes, he didn't work out. Heron, his dad hasn't liked anything from his home town or home state since the kid was born so who cares. Waters, not much different than Heron. Honestly not much to blame the staff on at all, nothing much happening in the state for good basketball players worthy of playing at UConn. Just check the national rankings hard to find "Connecticut" in any that's for sure. Keep trying to find more reasons though to crap on KO and his staff even with Miller gone.

 

[djct1999]

Getting a top guard is crucial! I hightly doubt JA comes back for his senior season after making a public statement about coming back for junior year. Saying you talked to your family and thought about options means writing is on the wall.

UConn has a top guard. In fact, we have 2. UConn needs to go back to getting a prototypical wing. Guys like Rip and Rudy. When UConn dominated, outside of 2004, the offense revolved around a 6' 6 wing!

 

[dennismenace]

Getting a top guard is crucial! I hightly doubt JA comes back for his senior season after making a public statement about coming back for junior year. Saying you talked to your family and thought about options means writing is on the wall.

Boat talked about leaving after his sophomore season. Stayed four years. He had Kemba speed, scorer and lockdown defender. Learned to play PG where he will play for many years as a professional. Jalen needs to stay in college and grow like Kemba and Boat. Kemba was ready after Junior year. Huge difference in maturity and game from sophomore to Junior year. Let's hope Jalen has that kind of off season. The areas he needs to grow in have been discussed on this board many times.

 

[Doctor Hoop]

This is classic BY behavior. Anyone pretending that Anderson is a good 4th guard and not a reach for UConn standards is being a homer. We wanted Waters bad and he didn't want us, end of story. Now we are focusing on bigs...what bigs??

I would love to have Waters on the team - if, and only if, he is excited abound suiting up for UConn, wants to be part of the team working for title number 5, and isn't holding the threat of a transfer if he or his dad aren't happy with playing time, usage, number of shots, or some other selfish nonsense. If those things are in the baggage he brings, then he ain't got ten toes in.

 

[FartMan69]

He hasn't even committed anywhere and this thread has posters already doing a 180. If he commits year this board is going to be completely turned inside out. God I need that to happen.

 

[HungryHuskies]

The way this thread has been going, I'm expecting some sort of news to come up today where Tremont is interested in UConn again. I can't see KO just giving up on a CT guy when we have 4 scholarships avaliable. It's not like we have 1 scholarship and would be missing out on someone else by focusing on Tremont.

 

[UConnStats]

If we can get a good grad transfer to play the 3 like Alstork or McIntosh, I'm fine with passing/missing on Waters as long as we go hard for Quickley and Dort. I love Jalen Carey too, but getting a 5 star talent to replace (theoretically) Jalen would become very important.

 

[PRHusky]

It's one thing for UConn not to be a kid's first choice, I can live with that. But it is an entirely different thing when a kid appears to be completely ambivalent or dismissing about the possibility of playing at UConn and appearing to only be considering coming here if nothing else materializes. That is not a kid I want in national flag blue and white.

 

[UConn990411]

Lol, I actually enjoy following recruiting, but some of you are in it way too deep.

 

[TRest]

Lol, I actually enjoy following recruiting, but some of you are in it way too deep.

I don't follow recruiting and this is exactly why. Until a kid puts on a UConn uniform I'm not going to waste a lot of time worrying about him. After he puts on a uniform, then I will pay attention during the games. The rest of the time it seems pretty creepy for grown men to be stalking teenage boys.

 

[intlzncster]

Like, sure, I'd love to date the most beautiful woman on the planet, but at the end of the day, one of the biggest requirements I have in a girlfriend is that she actually wants to date me, and not my sweater vest-wearing cokehead step-brother.

the most beautiful women in the world like sweater vests? News to me. Coke, I can see...but sweater vests?

 

[intlzncster]

This applies to every top recruit in the history of the world.

So you'd consider someone like Vance's dad similar to....say Kemba's?

No idea what Tremont's dad is like, but they aren't all one and the same.

 

[upstater]

It's one thing for UConn not to be a kid's first choice, I can live with that. But it is an entirely different thing when a kid appears to be completely ambivalent or dismissing about the possibility of playing at UConn and appearing to only be considering coming here if nothing else materializes. That is not a kid I want in national flag blue and white.

He wants starter's minutes immediately.

This has to be the long and short of it.

 

[David 76]

Can't believe all the conjecture on a kid, his family and other programs. It is OK to say "I really don't know anything" or better yet, don't post.
You don't know this kid or family.
Want to know why more top schools didn't offer?
Maybe it is because, like Gilbert, he is about 5' 9". Or you can guess there is something pathological going on. But I think he received great overactive his height.
And what is with not understanding ambivalence in making the biggest decision in one's life? How did/will your kids approach college? They all just applied to one college? Just UConn?