Transfer Thread Pt 2.....

[cockhrnleghrn]

Maybe I just caught Harris on a couple bad nights. UConn can have that effect on some very good players. But in all honesty, I felt Harris was more effective vs UConn as a freshman.

I think the reason was that she had help in her freshman season. There were many games where she played 40 minutes and I think she was just exhausted.

 

[shizam]

Obviously, I didn't see SC play a lot this season. But in the 2 games vs UConn, I was surprised at how ineffective Harris was. I liked what I saw of Jackson, and I think that Bianca-Cuevas is most effective at the 2-guard where she can flat out score the basketball. But I wonder if Cooper or the incoming freshman pg will push Harris for the starting pg role. Dawn needs a better floor general to run the show, at least as far as the games I saw when the Gamecocks and Huskies were matched up.

Harris was two different players this year. The one who played UConn and the different one who played everyone else

 

[MilfordHusky]

Mikayla Vaughn did in six games more than what Walker did all year.

Care to provide specifics?

 

[sharris952]

Maybe I just caught Harris on a couple bad nights. UConn can have that effect on some very good players. But in all honesty, I felt Harris was more effective vs UConn as a freshman.

You did. She set the South Carolina season record for assists and dont forget that she made the all tourney team in the U19 national team this past summer. One in which CD was on the team but dod not make all tourney. South Carolina will not fall back too much next year. Aja was so good that the game plan for years was developed around her but SC started winning SEC titles before she got there on good guard play and agressivd pressure defense. When Aja was out unexpectedly they did not play well which happened both Tennessee s i n regular season, but once they new she was not going to be there and prepped for games without here they won three regular season games and ran through fhe first 2 ranked opponents if the SEC tourney. They will compete at a high level again next year i believe

 

[SCspur]

You did. She set the South Carolina season record for assists and dont forget that she made the all tourney team in the U19 national team this past summer. One in which CD was on the team but dod not make all tourney. South Carolina will not fall back too much next year. Aja was so good that the game plan for years was developed around her but SC started winning SEC titles before she got there on good guard play and agressivd pressure defense. When Aja was out unexpectedly they did not play well which happened both Tennessee s i n regular season, but once they new she was not going to be there and prepped for games without here they won three regular season games and ran through fhe first 2 ranked opponents if the SEC tourney. They will compete at a high level again next year i believe

I agree! They were awful without A'ja this year when she first got the ankle injury. When she went out with vertigo it was much of the same versus Tennessee. But they completely turned it around in the SEC tourney. 3 ranked opponents in 3 straight day and beat the #2 team in the country with A'ja on the bench gave me confirmation that this team will be fine without her. Now Harris has help in the backcourt she can get more rest and be more aggressive. We lost games this year because she fouled out or was in foul trouble in portions of the game and we didn't have a point guard who could step in and relieve her. Destanni Henderson is the real deal and will have the rest of the country on notice as soon as next year. She's very similar to Chennedy Carter in her attack of the basket and pull up in her midrange game. We'll also have an experienced starting 5 of juniors and seniors so that bodes well in terms of leadership and a lot of players knowing what it takes to compete at a high level.

 

[bebo1226]

Care to provide specifics?

Nope. Just my opinion. Someone posted that no ND freshman this season had a better year than Megan Walker. In my opinion, Mikayla Vaughn in six games made her presence known. She was the first option off the bench (before Kristina Nelson), and only injury cut her season short. Walker (the #1 recruit in the country), didn't have an impact on the team this year. Vaughn outperformed the UCONN freshmen, which is all that I was reacting to. That's all.

 

[Vowelguy]

Campisano from Oregon transferring.

 

[SCspur]

Interesting to say the least. She was highly ranked out of high school and a pretty good 3pt shooter as well.

 

[nwhoopfan]

Campisano from Oregon transferring.

Not even slightly surprised, I was expecting some player movement for them. Campisano and Giomi have been buried on the bench for 2 years and it's not gonna change anytime soon, will actually be worse next year for them.

 

[HoopsFan21]

Interesting to say the least. She was highly ranked out of high school and a pretty good 3pt shooter as well.

That reads like a craigslist ad for a used couch.

 

[jonson]

Not even slightly surprised, I was expecting some player movement for them. Campisano and Giomi have been buried on the bench for 2 years and it's not gonna change anytime soon, will actually be worse next year for them.

Completely agree about Campisano. She was the last person off the bench most of this year and she hasn't been able to buy a basket when she's in. I have expected that she would transfer since early in the season.

Giomi's situation is a little more complicated, since she has been injury-plagued since arriving: a hand injury last year that led to her red-shirting and some sort of leg injury about 3/4 of the way through this season. She has some potential, but I don't see her getting serious minutes for another year (assuming she stays).

 

[Charliebball]

 

[Reypl21]

Who are the top 10 2016 players as of now? Asking because I want to hear some thoughts lol

 

[Charliebball]

Interesting to say the least. She was highly ranked out of high school and a pretty good 3pt shooter as well.

If you remember her from the USA U16 games, she was an earlier version of Chennedy Carter...........unlimited range but very, very streaky........many were surprised that she chose TCU in the first place.............I'm sure somebody good will give her a shot (Miss State, South Carolina, etc) but I doubt that UConn is interested............

 

[SCspur]

Who are the top 10 2016 players as of now? Asking because I want to hear some thoughts lol

1. Sabrina Ionescu
2. Lauren Cox
3. Ruthy Hebard
4. Jackie Young
5. Kaila Charles
6. Tiana Mangakhia
7. Crystal Dangerfield
8. Tyasha Harris
9. Joyner Holmes
10. Leaonna Odom

 

[SCspur]

If you remember her from the USA U16 games, she was an earlier version of Chennedy Carter......unlimited range but very, very streaky...many were surprised that she chose TCU in the first place...I'm sure somebody good will give her a shot (Miss State, South Carolina, etc) but I doubt that UConn is interested..

Also remembering her light it up in the McAA game versus Ionescu. Not sure if she's a take for SC as we will be pretty guard heavy next year and considering a lot of G/W's for 2019. I can see her at Miss St. She and AEH will be eligible in 19/20 and will be a nightmare for opponents if they learn to play Vic's style of defense and bring their shooting prowess with them.

 

[CocoHusky]

1. Sabrina Ionescu
2. Lauren Cox
3. Ruthy Hebard
4. Jackie Young
5. Kaila Charles
6. Tiana Mangakhia
7. Crystal Dangerfield
8. Tyasha Harris
9. Joyner Holmes
10. Leaonna Odom

Great list. I'd make room ot the bottom of this list though for a couple of Ivy league players in Isabella Alarie at Princeton and Jeannie Boehm at Harvard.

 

[ladybird]

I’m confused. You believe rameriz and Sabrina are in same ballpark because of rankings? Why in the world if this is true would TCU not want a Sabrina to lead their team? Makes no sense if she was that caliber they wouldn’t use her.

 

[nwhoopfan]

Completely agree about Campisano. She was the last person off the bench most of this year and she hasn't been able to buy a basket when she's in. I have expected that she would transfer since early in the season.

Giomi's situation is a little more complicated, since she has been injury-plagued since arriving: a hand injury last year that led to her red-shirting and some sort of leg injury about 3/4 of the way through this season. She has some potential, but I don't see her getting serious minutes for another year (assuming she stays).

Giomi's minutes have been fairly limited when she has been healthy. Although already using a redshirt complicates trying to transfer, unless she waits until she's eligible to be a grad transfer.

4 post players in one class, it was not hard to predict that not everybody was gonna get PT.

 

[MilfordHusky]

Holy crap!

 

[Plebe]

1. Sabrina Ionescu
2. Lauren Cox
3. Ruthy Hebard
4. Jackie Young
5. Kaila Charles
6. Tiana Mangakhia
7. Crystal Dangerfield
8. Tyasha Harris
9. Joyner Holmes
10. Leaonna Odom

No Slocum?
There are quite a few others I'd strongly consider putting ahead of Odom:

Kianna Ray, TCU
Hannah Whitish, Nebraska
Kathleen Doyle, Iowa
Dominique Oden, Purdue
Mikayla Pivec, Oregon State
Kat Tudor, Oregon State
Amber Melgoza, Washington

 

[jonson]

Also remembering her light it up in the McAA game versus Ionescu. Not sure if she's a take for SC as we will be pretty guard heavy next year and considering a lot of G/W's for 2019. I can see her at Miss St. She and AEH will be eligible in 19/20 and will be a nightmare for opponents if they learn to play Vic's style of defense and bring their shooting prowess with them.

I believe Ionescu won both the mvp and sportsmanship awards that year--as well as set the scoring record--25 points, which may have been broken since then.

 

[Reypl21]

Also remembering her light it up in the McAA game versus Ionescu. Not sure if she's a take for SC as we will be pretty guard heavy next year and considering a lot of G/W's for 2019. I can see her at Miss St. She and AEH will be eligible in 19/20 and will be a nightmare for opponents if they learn to play Vic's style of defense and bring their shooting prowess with them.

I remember Sabrina and Ramirez both broke the previous scoring record in the AA games. I think that was mainly because the two of them were guarding each other.

 

[jonson]

Giomi's minutes have been fairly limited when she has been healthy. Although already using a redshirt complicates trying to transfer, unless she waits until she's eligible to be a grad transfer.

4 post players in one class, it was not hard to predict that not everybody was gonna get PT.

My sense is that Campisano has been an almost total disappointment, and I've never understood her Hoopgurlz ranking. (I think she was ranked around 150 by Prospects Nation, and that seems a more accurate reflection of what she's done so far.) Giomi was a "project" from the start--really quick and fast for her size, but also quite raw and, at this point, not nearly strong enough to hold her own in the paint.

 

[Vowelguy]

Oppenheimer from Syracuse

 

[Gamecockfan77]

Imho, the transfer rule is optimal (1 yr off and still getting 4 years + practice year) balancing the needs of students leaving sub-optimal situations with the need to keep the core of teams intact to allow future recruitment planning. It is disingenuous to compare the freedom of student movement to coach movement since the latter occurs quite infrequently and if the transition is done properly, does not greatly affect the programs.

There are already procedures of appeal to deal with truly egregious cases in which case, students can transfer without any bench time.

I agree with you.

I've gotten so tired of the point of view that the players give everything and get nothing, but I guess that's neither here nor there.

I don't think a modest restriction on players transferring is a bad thing. It is a reasonable accommodation to schools that have after all made plans around players and given them benefits. And it makes players consider their decisions strongly before transferring, which I like.

I do think that the rule should be changed to eliminate any discretion a school might have in refusing to release a player. It should be a straight one year to sit out and the player should be permitted to go wherever they like. Even if is an arch rival.

I also really enjoy the grad transfer rule and would like to keep it unfettered. I'd actually consider removing the requirement that the transfer school offer unavailable programs. That isn't much of a obstacle now, but no real reason why it should be there.

 

[Charliebball]

I agree with you.

I've gotten so tired of the point of view that the players give everything and get nothing, but I guess that's neither here nor there.

I don't think a modest restriction on players transferring is a bad thing. It is a reasonable accommodation to schools that have after all made plans around players and given them benefits. And it makes players consider their decisions strongly before transferring, which I like.

I do think that the rule should be changed to eliminate any discretion a school might have in refusing to release a player. It should be a straight one year to sit out and the player should be permitted to go wherever they like. Even if is an arch rival.

I also really enjoy the grad transfer rule and would like to keep it unfettered. I'd actually consider removing the requirement that the transfer school offer unavailable programs. That isn't much of a obstacle now, but no real reason why it should be there.

the NCAA is worried about potential law suites which if they lose would blow the whole transfer policy wide open...........they would rather fix it while they can as opposed to have a court ordered revision...........their lawyers say that having a minimum GPA requirement in order to transfer in the same year would be legal so that very well may be part of the new plan if it is adopted............

 

[southie]

 

[SCspur]

South Carolina one of 5 schools Anriel Howard is considering... my guess on the other four would be Miss St, Louisville, Texas A&M, and maybe Oregon or Georgia.

 

[nwhoopfan]

South Carolina one of 5 schools Anriel Howard is considering... my guess on the other four would be Miss St, Louisville, Texas A&M, and maybe Oregon or Georgia.

Oregon has a crowded front court. That would be an interesting choice.