Transfer portal part 2

[ThatCG1801]

Regarding Saniya Rivers, there was an article where she made some interesting comments regarding her departure from Gamecock WBB. She did not, however, address anything in relation to the 3 game suspension that I still suspect played a role and had nothing at all to do with class attendance issues.

She said that she wanted to leave mid-season. That she was "not a piece of the puzzle" and basically did not feel as if she belonged. Also, she says her "phone has been blowing up" with random programs contacting her (yet her status has been from the moment she entered the portal, and remains, "do not contact"). She said she plans on taking the max number of visits allowed as a transfer, which is to 3 programs that she does not name. I'll try to locate the link to the article again and edit this with that link.

ETA: Here is the link to the article:

Not the piece of the puzzle: Rivers talks decision to leave South Carolina basketball

Exclusive interview from the former Wilmington high school star on her decision to find a new college home after one year with the Gamecocks

www.starnewsonline.com

 

[southie]

Regarding Saniya Rivers, there was an article where she made some interesting comments regarding her departure from Gamecock WBB. She did not, however, address anything in relation to the 3 game suspension that I still suspect played a role and had nothing at all to do with class attendance issues.

She said that she wanted to leave mid-season. That she was "not a piece of the puzzle" and basically did not feel as if she belonged. Also, she says her "phone has been blowing up" with random programs contacting her (yet her status has been from the moment she entered the portal, and remains, "do not contact"). She said she plans on taking the max number of visits allowed as a transfer, which is to 3 programs that she does not name. I'll try to locate the link to the article again and edit this with that link.

ETA: Here is the link to the article:

Not the piece of the puzzle: Rivers talks decision to leave South Carolina basketball

Exclusive interview from the former Wilmington high school star on her decision to find a new college home after one year with the Gamecocks

www.starnewsonline.com

Is that the maximum? I could have sworn it was 5 official visits just like when coming out of high school.

 

[ThatCG1801]

Is that the maximum? I could have sworn it was 5 official visits just like when coming out of high school.

The article states she intends to take the maximum and then says that equates to 3 visits. Is the allowed visit total different with transfers as opposed to visits while being recruited out of HS?

 

[HuskyMJ]

The article states she intends to take the maximum and then says that equates to 3 visits. Is the allowed visit total different with transfers as opposed to visits while being recruited out of HS?

Maybe I read it wrong but I thought it said she would take a maximum of 3 visits. Not that 3 was the maximum? But I read it yesterday so I could be forgetting

 

[BRS24]

 

[southie]

 

[SECbbfan24]

Warren does seem like she likes WWE. Makes sense

 

[ThatCG1801]

Maybe I read it wrong but I thought it said she would take a maximum of 3 visits. Not that 3 was the maximum? But I read it yesterday so I could be forgetting

You're right. I thought it said she was taking the maximum of three. She simply said she was taking a maximum of three

 

[GoCardinal]

Blackwell recently started following multiple Ole Miss players on Instagram. I even noticed she was following the official Ole Miss WBB Instagram account over the weekend, but seemingly unfollowed it today. Maybe she unfollowed because too many people were catching on before it was announced. On Twitter, Coach Yo indicated she landed a big time transfer as well.

 

[SECbbfan24]

Blackwell recently started following multiple Ole Miss players on Instagram. I even noticed she was following the official Ole Miss WBB Instagram account over the weekend, but seemingly unfollowed it today. Maybe she unfollowed because too many people were catching on before it was announced. On Twitter, Coach Yo indicated she landed a big time transfer as well.

Ole Miss folks seem to think they landed her. That would be a big blow to Baylor, I know they wanted her pretty bad after losing Egbo and Smith. She recently visited.

Coach Yo definitely taking advantage of the portal since being at Ole Miss, helped that program a lot.

 

[GoCardinal]

Ole Miss folks seem to think they landed her. That would be a big blow to Baylor, I know they wanted her pretty bad after losing Egbo and Smith. She recently visited.

Coach Yo definitely taking advantage of the portal since being at Ole Miss, helped that program a lot.

I am actually surprised LSU was not a finalist. I would think they would have made more sense than Baylor.

 

[SECbbfan24]

I am actually surprised LSU was not a finalist. I would think they would have made more sense than Baylor.

Don’t think she was interested much, although her teammate Ladazhia Williams visited weeks ago and was rumored to be one of the commits Kim mentioned before Messer moved to UCF.

Any ways, It would be a good grab for Ole Miss especially after losing Austin. They seem to be going after a lot of SEC transfers.

 

[PoppaBear]

I thought she was a Gamecock soon-to-be commit. Lol. These ladies are probably just playing games with everybody. Social media is so predictably unpredictable.

 

[Big12wbbFan]

I thought she was a Gamecock soon-to-be commit. Lol. These ladies are probably just playing games with everybody. Social media is so predictably unpredictable.

Yes. It is hard to predict anything based on who a player follows on social media. I do think Blackwell will end up at either Ole Miss or Baylor.

 

[TC22]

I thought she was a Gamecock soon-to-be commit. Lol. These ladies are probably just playing games with everybody. Social media is so predictably unpredictable.

Everybody is a soon-to-be Gamecock according to Twitter. Owusu, Reese, Barker, Blackwell….and it’s not SC people saying it.

 

[Plebe]

Lol Warren and Coach Abe, a match made in heaven.

 

[saywho]

General question I was thinking tonight. Janiah Barker was great in the Jordan Brand game and is going to be a great pick up for somebody. How does applying and acceptance to schools work? Maybe she was accepted to some schools of interest already. But if she is interested in another school....do they just push through the application? Was just thinking about this, as its late to be applying for next year. So, I was curious if anybody knows how it works? Not applicable solely to Janiah, but was just thinking in general when thinking about her situation.

 

[BRS24]

 

[dws3665]

Come to Ole Miss! We will recruit over you in the transfer portal every year!

 

[HuskyFan1125]

Come to Ole Miss! We will recruit over you in the transfer portal every year!

You can add Louisville to that list as well. I mean if it works go for it!

This is what AAU coaches are talking about currently. The Portal is making life hard on high school kids.

 

[TC22]

Come to Ole Miss! We will recruit over you in the transfer portal every year!

If coaches don't win they lose their job. You really can't blame them. It is kind of crazy though - IDK what the answer is. Every player can't have a starting position.

 

[LwrcasefaN]

You can add Louisville to that list as well. I mean if it works go for it!

This is what AAU coaches are talking about currently. The Portal is making life hard on high school kids.

Perhaps it will cause a further expansion of the talent to some of the schools on the cusp of taking a step towards national consistency. Some of these "mid-majors" looked very competitive. I would say that the BE is the conference benefiting the most from the portal talent push. They made noise in the tournament and this was after some of their teams barely made the cut. It's also a better environment if you're rebuilding from scratch like Syracuse or Minnesota. Not sure why AAU coaches in particular would have a dog in this fight.

 

[HuskyFan1125]

Perhaps it will cause a further expansion of the talent to some of the schools on the cusp of taking a step towards national consistency. Some of these "mid-majors" looked very competitive. I would say that the BE is the conference benefiting the most from the portal talent push. They made noise in the tournament and this was after some of their teams barely made the cut. It's also a better environment if you're rebuilding from scratch like Syracuse or Minnesota. Not sure why AAU coaches in particular would have a dog in this fight.

I can answer that actually. Kids are being recruited over by the transfer portal. Keep in mind we are not necessarily talking about top shelf talent, but they are by no means immune. AAU coaches work with these kids and help them get exposure. They get scholarship offers and in the women's game they seem to take the highest offer not always the best fit (which we have heard lately). Then as incoming freshman they are battling upper classmen and learning the ropes and finding their way. Then in comes a transfer that leaps frogs them and they are relegated to another year on the pine. It's an added pressure. To circle back around to the AAU aspect these coaches have tight relationships with the kids being recruited and look out for them much like a parent. If an AAU coach loses respect for a college coach due to being recruited over its naive to think they are not in their players ear.

 

[LwrcasefaN]

I can answer that actually. Kids are being recruited over by the transfer portal. Keep in mind we are not necessarily talking about top shelf talent, but they are by no means immune. AAU coaches work with these kids and help them get exposure. They get scholarship offers and in the women's game they seem to take the highest offer not always the best fit (which we have heard lately). Then as incoming freshman they are battling upper classmen and learning the ropes and finding their way. Then in comes a transfer that leaps frogs them and they are relegated to another year on the pine. It's an added pressure. To circle back around to the AAU aspect these coaches have tight relationships with the kids being recruited and look out for them much like a parent. If an AAU coach loses respect for a college coach due to being recruited over its naive to think they are not in their players ear.

They should be in their player's ears about....other possibilities and about the realities they may face as freshmen...even if they don't get recruited over. Any kid that's really good...doesn't need an AAU coach to get exposed. Who doesn't have a highlight tape, facebook or tiktok? In my opinion, AAU just added some unnecessary steps to college recruitment. A'Ja Wilson didn't need them. Don't get me wrong...it's convenient, but there are just as many, if not more benefits for these coaches...than the players. There's a ton of money floating around these teams that wasn't there before and most of these AAU coaches were at best known regionally if that. Many were never even HS coaches. And they too...recruit over players on their teams for the next best player they can snatch up. These kids play too many games now. It's one reason why there are so many injuries. If I'm recruiting a player, I'll talk to the parent and if necessary...involve an AAU coach. In fact, I would rather speak with the HS coach before an AAU coach.

 

[baggerbob]

I can answer that actually. Kids are being recruited over by the transfer portal. Keep in mind we are not necessarily talking about top shelf talent, but they are by no means immune. AAU coaches work with these kids and help them get exposure. They get scholarship offers and in the women's game they seem to take the highest offer not always the best fit (which we have heard lately). Then as incoming freshman they are battling upper classmen and learning the ropes and finding their way. Then in comes a transfer that leaps frogs them and they are relegated to another year on the pine. It's an added pressure. To circle back around to the AAU aspect these coaches have tight relationships with the kids being recruited and look out for them much like a parent. If an AAU coach loses respect for a college coach due to being recruited over its naive to think they are not in their players ear.

Actually the portal will eventually be a good thing. These AAU coaches are going have to be smarter about where they send kids. With coaches being able to replace misfits with better players, will cut down on these AAU coaches influence.

 

[WestsideWaltz]

Jordyn Jenkins to USTA proving that Karen Aston can still recruit. Jenkins was arguably a top 10 transfer prospect so this is very surprising.

 

[Basket]

You can add Louisville to that list as well. I mean if it works go for it!

This is what AAU coaches are talking about currently. The Portal is making life hard on high school kids.

L’ville has had very few transfers the last few years with a large roster

 

[MSSportsGuy]

As I've reflected on things the last few days I can't help but think about "the grass is always greener" syndrome. Lots of players get homesick, disappointed about playing time, or tired of a routine and think a new start would be better. Many are correct. Likewise coaches see a player in the portal who they like on paper or maybe competed against and think "I should grab him or her to help me out with (fill in the blank)".

In reality both scenarios have the potential to work out but they are also short sighted. I fully agree some players need a fresh start and if there has been a coaching change, it is totally understandable why a player would want to move on. I am unconvinced that 1100 (and counting) players made initial mistakes, are homesick, or faced a coaching change. Most just want to play more and think they won't under their present circumstances. What makes that worse is the idea that coaches are always looking in the portal for the "next best thing" that also isn't the best thing. It's easy to think a plug and play, experienced player would solve most ills but coaches cannot say that players won't commit to getting better when it appears they aren't interested in player development and rather more in a quick fix.

No coach should be able to block a player transferring and there are definitely times a clean slate is better for everyone. I just think now the cycle is beyond broken and it will take something major to reign in back in. What was likely a well intended idea by the NCAA has seemingly created a new set of challenges.

 

[Centerstream]

As I've reflected on things the last few days I can't help but think about "the grass is always greener" syndrome. Lots of players get homesick, disappointed about playing time, or tired of a routine and think a new start would be better. Many are correct. Likewise coaches see a player in the portal who they like on paper or maybe competed against and think "I should grab him or her to help me out with (fill in the blank)".

In reality both scenarios have the potential to work out but they are also short sighted. I fully agree some players need a fresh start and if there has been a coaching change, it is totally understandable why a player would want to move on. I am unconvinced that 1100 (and counting) players made initial mistakes, are homesick, or faced a coaching change. Most just want to play more and think they won't under their present circumstances. What makes that worse is the idea that coaches are always looking in the portal for the "next best thing" that also isn't the best thing. It's easy to think a plug and play, experienced player would solve most ills but coaches cannot say that players won't commit to getting better when it appears they aren't interested in player development and rather more in a quick fix.

No coach should be able to block a player transferring and there are definitely times a clean slate is better for everyone. I just think now the cycle is beyond broken and it will take something major to reign in back in. What was likely a well intended idea by the NCAA has seemingly created a new set of challenges.

The NCAA could easily fix this but there are pros and cons for the fix. The reason why the immediate eligibility came into the discussion was because, previously, a player that transferred had to sit out a year unless they were granted a waiver by the NCAA. Waivers weren't the norm but for some schools it appeared the opposite was true.
So the easy fix is to reinstate the one year sit out with only one exception, graduates with eligibility remaining.

 

[baggerbob]

The NCAA could easily fix this but there are pros and cons for the fix. The reason why the immediate eligibility came into the discussion was because, previously, a player that transferred had to sit out a year unless they were granted a waiver by the NCAA. Waivers weren't the norm but for some schools it appeared the opposite was true.
So the easy fix is to reinstate the one year sit out with only one exception, graduates with eligibility remaining.

Once you have put in the transfer rule you can't go back. The NCAA doesn't want more lawsuits, and that would happen immediately if they tryed to go back to sitting out.