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LIuconn said:
If he can get a10 ft pull-up he'd be deadly. He gets by perimeter D with such ease
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He gets by people because they let him. They know he’s going to get blocked at the rim/ 3 feet under the rim
 
UCPharma11 said:
No chance we let Alterique come back for a grad year. Why in the world did Akok not see the light of day???
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I’d like to know why Hurley didn’t put in Akok for valuable crunch time minutes, too. Instead, he put in Whaley, who was a monster with his 0 points, 1 rebound, and 5 fouls. That 5th foul was ridiculous though, he was basically whistled for just existing. If I’m Akok I look at nights like tonight and lean heavily towards declaring for the draft when the year is over - at least he’ll get to develop getting paid on someone’s G league team.
 
husky429 said:
He should obviously be playing. He needs to be facilitating. Not going 2/13 from the floor. Break the press and get the team into the sets, and defend like his career depends on it--that's what his role needs to be. Wide open shots and easy layups until he's able to find a rhythm.
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He should obviously be playing... in some remote Eastern European league.

2-9
5-19
3-13
0-4
2-13
A combined 5-23 from 3

He’s in his 4th year out of high school. Even if injuries have limited his court time, he should at least have developed his basketball IQ and become a dependable senior floor general. Instead, he plays like a freshman. He’s decided that forgetting he’s 5’9” and driving and getting swatted at the rim is the best option. He has an F- shot selection ability He doesn’t facilitate the offense with his passing.

Being our best dribbler is not enough of a reason to play him anything more than 10-12mins a game when he quite literally is the worst shooter on the team, is a poor passer, a poor decision maker, and when we have other guys who can play. He can dribble his way to almost any spot on the court.. and that’s it.

We need a PG who doesn’t have the decision making abilities of Roscoe Smith with the clock running out. We have 4 other guards (Vital, Bouknight, Adams, Gaffney) available. It shouldn’t be a difficult decision - but if Hurley is willing to ride with Whaley over Akok in crunch time, I’m afraid we may be stuck with AG.
 
Mots010 said:
Gilbert killed us. He cannot have the ball at the end of games.
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Team effort.. Somebody's gotta get open.. OR coaches gotta run sets to get the scorers/hot hands open for shots..
Even still, I'd rather lose like this (knowing we can see a team that can/will/should improve from this.. a great learning game... Heck we only lost by 1.. in OT).. I ain't mad...
 
IF Gilbert doesn't run the offense for us tonite, we would've lost before OT. Plain and simple...

Should he have tried to take the shots he took late in the game? Definitely not.. But we gotta learn from this and do a better job getting other options open on drives and dishes..

AND, Carlton must learn how to finish stronger around the basket... He just does... It's there, but he just has to finish and be able to move to the next play quicker...
 
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UconnPT2007 said:
I’d like to know why Hurley didn’t put in Akok for valuable crunch time minutes, too. Instead, he put in Whaley, who was a monster with his 0 points, 1 rebound, and 5 fouls. That 5th foul was ridiculous though, he was basically whistled for just existing. If I’m Akok I look at nights like tonight and lean heavily towards declaring for the draft when the year is over - at least he’ll get to develop getting paid on someone’s G league team.
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He was hurt, that's why he didn't put him in
 
8893 said:
Did you miss his seven straight free throws down the stretch and in OT?
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Obviously his FTs were clutch. But his shot selection throughout is at least one reason why they didn’t hold their regulation lead. He definitely works hard but he really doesn’t have PG instincts. Kinda Cup Cormierish with a higher ceiling. We’ll never know how much his injuries stunted his learning curve. Too bad, cuz he’s easy to root for.
 
Agree on *almost* all of that; but as an admitted early--and misplaced--adopter of Cup Cormier, AG is light years more talented imo.

Yes, his continued over-penetration is maddening at this point, and he plays small because he doesn't have the hops of someone like Boatright, but I still think he has the best point guard skills and ability on the current roster. Granted it's not a high bar, but I am not ready to give up on him yet. If he can't get his shot back and can settle into more of a Taliek Brown-mode PG, it just might work. And I was not an early--or late--adopter of Taliek.
 
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upstater said:
Unfortunately, we have no one else right now to run offense, but I'm tempted to put the ball in Gaffney's hands. Crazy as that sounds.
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What are you talking about? Who ran the offense against Buffalo ? They looked allot better then. Gilbert can't shoot at all and is a ball hog. Hurley can't see this ?????
 
AG is Definitly still hurt and I love Hurley’s loyalty to him but AG is not a division 1 player right now. He’s a sub.
 
lanieer said:
AG is Definitly still hurt and I love Hurley’s loyalty to him but AG is not a division 1 player right now. He’s a sub.
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Yes, but his loyalty should be to the team !!
 
8893 said:
Agree on *almost* all of that; but as an admitted early--and misplaced--adopter of Cup Cormier, AG is light years more talented imo.

Yes, his continued over-penetration is maddening at this point, and he plays small because he doesn't have the hops of someone like Boatright, but I still think he has the best point guard skills and ability on the current roster. Granted it's not a high bar, but I am not ready to give up on him yet. If he can't get his shot back and can settle into more of a Taliek Brown-mode PG, it just might work. And I was not an early--or late--adopter of Taliek.
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AG has ridiculous hops. he can really get up which makes the inability to get a layup over the defender so puzzling
 
8893 said:
Agree on *almost* all of that; but as an admitted early--and misplaced--adopter of Cup Cormier, AG is light years more talented imo.

Yes, his continued over-penetration is maddening at this point, and he plays small because he doesn't have the hops of someone like Boatright, but I still think he has the best point guard skills and ability on the current roster. Granted it's not a high bar, but I am not ready to give up on him yet. If he can't get his shot back and can settle into more of a Taliek Brown-mode PG, it just might work. And I was not an early--or late--adopter of Taliek.
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I think that’s the key to the success of the team, getting Gilbert and Vital to accept their roles and limitations. Neither should be taking the big shots late in games. AG should focus on defense and distributing the ball, Vital should focus on rebounding, transition and hustle plays. There’s far too big a body of evidence at this point to expect good things out of either late in games in a half court set.
 
8893 said:
Agree on *almost* all of that; but as an admitted early--and misplaced--adopter of Cup Cormier, AG is light years more talented imo.

Yes, his continued over-penetration is maddening at this point, and he plays small because he doesn't have the hops of someone like Boatright, but I still think he has the best point guard skills and ability on the current roster. Granted it's not a high bar, but I am not ready to give up on him yet. If he can't get his shot back and can settle into more of a Taliek Brown-mode PG, it just might work. And I was not an early--or late--adopter of Taliek.
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Yea try telling him that !
 
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UConn2SF said:
AG has ridiculous hops. he can really get up which makes the inability to get a layup over the defender so puzzling
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He hasn’t appeared to have the same hops this season for some reason. But irrespective, the way he’s been driving and trying to lay it in when he starts his shot underhanded with ball below his waist, it’s really making him play even shorter than he is.
 
UConn2SF said:
AG has ridiculous hops. he can really get up which makes the inability to get a layup over the defender so puzzling
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Dunk contests are meaningless. He can’t jump with the ball in his hands and players in the lane.
 
cohenzone said:
Obviously his FTs were clutch. But his shot selection throughout is at least one reason why they didn’t hold their regulation lead. He definitely works hard but he really doesn’t have PG instincts. Kinda Cup Cormierish with a higher ceiling. We’ll never know how much his injuries stunted his learning curve. Too bad, cuz he’s easy to root for.
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Wrong he had very few bad selections in regulation. He was good in regulation don’t pile on. He was awful in the OTs no doubt but can’t deny the 3 FTs gave us hope yet again.
 
I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a player who is worse at finishing around the rim. Might as well be a turnover once he goes up.
 
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AG has his role on the team, clearly, I just don't think he has fully realized it yet. Draw fouls, dish the rock, continue to play good D but I'd like his shot selection cut in half, at least, and the remaining half being the result of better choices.
 
mauconnfan said:
Wrong he had very few bad selections in regulation. He was good in regulation don’t pile on. He was awful in the OTs no doubt but can’t deny the 3 FTs gave us hope yet again.
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Let’s put it this way. He’s not the best jump shooting option on the team. Terrible % and needs to find shooters off his drives or learn to pull up before he gets surrounded. If he can set up Polley or even Vital who’s a better shooter, at least when he doesn’t force it.
 
If you can't make open shots and you're still forcing shot up you should see your minutes evaporate. It's decision making as much as shooting. AG is a valuable guy but Adam's and Bouk should be getting more minutes. Adam's could develop into a tough match up guy the way he plays and uses his body. We have options but the recipe is unsettled. I don't see any indication AG is suddenly going to find that consistency with his shooting.
 
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