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I’m late to the Mets thread this year … just weighing in on the spiral we went through…
Happened as Senga went down. No Senga, no Manaea, no Canning, no Megill. I mean that’s starters 1, 2, 5 and 6. Suddenly the 3 is 1, 4 is 2 and 7,8,9 become 3,4, 5.
That’s rough stuff no matter who you are.
A brutal brutal stretch where the offense struggled to pick up the pitching. The starters giving no length meant the pen was taxed.
But all teams go through it. Wasn’t long ago the Phillies lost 9 out of 10. The Yankees are in a dreadful patch right now. It’s baseball and it’s a long season.
Soto has been on fire lately, Nimmo is starting to produce power more consistently, Marte has been playable with the bat. I’m confident Alonso will regain form, he’s still not horrid even though he’s slumping some. Lindor is streaky. Always has been. But he’s the captain of the team and the guy I’m least worried about.
This team needs Alvarez, Vientos, Baty and/or Mauricio to figure it out. IMO the lack of development from the young guys has started to show itself.
Happened as Senga went down. No Senga, no Manaea, no Canning, no Megill. I mean that’s starters 1, 2, 5 and 6. Suddenly the 3 is 1, 4 is 2 and 7,8,9 become 3,4, 5.
That’s rough stuff no matter who you are.
A brutal brutal stretch where the offense struggled to pick up the pitching. The starters giving no length meant the pen was taxed.
But all teams go through it. Wasn’t long ago the Phillies lost 9 out of 10. The Yankees are in a dreadful patch right now. It’s baseball and it’s a long season.
Soto has been on fire lately, Nimmo is starting to produce power more consistently, Marte has been playable with the bat. I’m confident Alonso will regain form, he’s still not horrid even though he’s slumping some. Lindor is streaky. Always has been. But he’s the captain of the team and the guy I’m least worried about.
This team needs Alvarez, Vientos, Baty and/or Mauricio to figure it out. IMO the lack of development from the young guys has started to show itself.
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I hate Filliponi. Perhaps the most noxious media personality Syracuse ever graduated.
The only redeeming thing about him is he actually is a Mets fan from the NYC metro. But his shows are 98% Stillers. And his baseball otakes and knowledge are garbage.
I would hate that trade. Pirates need power bats at the corners. We're teeming with SS/OF types with no pop, except for Konnor Griffin who will be the starting SS come late 26 or opening day 27. I don't know why Cherington is enamored with guys who have major injury history. First its Horwitz with a wrist injury that sapped his power, now a SS with a surgically repaired knee? Thanks, no thanks.
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Completely agree on all points.
I feel better that we’ll get Senga and Manaea back this week, get a start or so then some rest at the all star break. We “should” come out of the gates ready for the second half.
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I was a captive audience for a much of Thursday to afternoon baseball announcers. First time in a long time. I was playing the horse racing at a sportsbook while the Cubs then Mets were on. I thought both groups were excellent, it was an enjoyable background. I forgot what a good call was like. I can't take off the mute when Dave O'Brien is on.
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What do you guys hope to see the Mets do at the deadline?
I think we need bullpen help for sure and I also wouldn’t mind them making a play for a legit CF. The pitching has been fine and Senga and Manaea are back now.
Senga
Manaea
Holmes
Peterson
Montas or whoever else …
That’s a pretty good rotation.
The top 4 in the line up are more than fine (Lindor, Soto, Pete and Nimmo). It’s the bottom half that’s failing us. I love Taylor as a late inning defensive sub and a 4th outfielder but his bat is weak. Baty, Mauricio, Vientos, Acuna and Alvarez have really been a major let down this year. We need Alvarez and one of those other guys to be real assets to the line up. Alvarez and Vientos have shown it in the past but man it’s been rough this year. Mauricio and Baty will show flashes but can’t put it together consistently.
Winker can’t stay healthy to even get a read on his abilities anymore. Feels like we need a jolt in the line up somewhere - 3rd, Dan Hurley, or CF.
I think we need bullpen help for sure and I also wouldn’t mind them making a play for a legit CF. The pitching has been fine and Senga and Manaea are back now.
Senga
Manaea
Holmes
Peterson
Montas or whoever else …
That’s a pretty good rotation.
The top 4 in the line up are more than fine (Lindor, Soto, Pete and Nimmo). It’s the bottom half that’s failing us. I love Taylor as a late inning defensive sub and a 4th outfielder but his bat is weak. Baty, Mauricio, Vientos, Acuna and Alvarez have really been a major let down this year. We need Alvarez and one of those other guys to be real assets to the line up. Alvarez and Vientos have shown it in the past but man it’s been rough this year. Mauricio and Baty will show flashes but can’t put it together consistently.
Winker can’t stay healthy to even get a read on his abilities anymore. Feels like we need a jolt in the line up somewhere - 3rd, Dan Hurley, or CF.
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CF is the only one that is an absolute must add for me. Duran or Buxton would be the dream but at this point anyone would be an upgrade over Taylor.
I'd like to add a SP like Mitch Keller or someone like that if the price is right. The rotation has been very good, but there's enough question marks with things like Senga and Manaea's health, Holmes innings, Montas being inconsistent that I'd like to see one more guy added.
Adding to the bullpen would be nice but the price is so high in season that I don't expect any notable adds. Pretty much every contender is always looking to add bullpen arms but I'd pull the trigger on a legit 8th inning option even if it's an overpay
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I am over the moon at Manaea's performance yesterday.
Heading into the 2nd half? I wouldn't mind seeing Baty, Vientos or Maurico in a package for an impact OF/bat. I like Duran but the Sox have been so hot lately, they may not be sellers now. I'd also like to see a solid veteran RP...or.....a 3/4 starter with Holmes going to the pen. I do feel like the Holmes starter experience has been a good one though and I don't want to lose a potential good starter like we did wtih Lugo there.
On a separate note, is Jonah Tong the second coming of Tim Lincecum or what?! Jeez.
Heading into the 2nd half? I wouldn't mind seeing Baty, Vientos or Maurico in a package for an impact OF/bat. I like Duran but the Sox have been so hot lately, they may not be sellers now. I'd also like to see a solid veteran RP...or.....a 3/4 starter with Holmes going to the pen. I do feel like the Holmes starter experience has been a good one though and I don't want to lose a potential good starter like we did wtih Lugo there.
On a separate note, is Jonah Tong the second coming of Tim Lincecum or what?! Jeez.
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Obviously a lot can and will change between now and October 1 but the way I see the roster breaking out and holes that need to be addressed before then is this:
Roster Locks
C - Francisco Alvarez
1B - Pete Alonso
2B - Jeff McNeil
SS - Francisco Lindor
LF - Brandon Nimmo
RF - Juan Soto
BN - Luis Torrens
BN - Tyrone Taylor
Upgrade Areas
3B
CF
Dan Hurley
BN
BN
Obviously not all of these are trade guys. If you trade for a CF you can probably fill the other 4 with a combo of Vientos/Mauricio at 3B and Winker/Marte at Dan Hurley and that's your 5 guys. A legitimate Dan Hurley over Winker/Marte would be a nice luxury though
Roster Locks
SP - Kodai Senga
SP - Sean Manaea
SP - Clay Holmes
SP - David Peterson
RP - Edwin Diaz
RP - Huascar Brazoban
RP - Jose Butto
RP - Reed Garrett
Upgrade Areas
SP
SP
RP
RP
RP
Gonna be some internal options here again to fill a few spots with Montas and Megill as SP options, plus Sproat/McLean/Tong/Tidwell. And hopefully 1 or 2 of Stanek, Kranick, Raley, Smith pitch well enough to be on a postseason roster as well.
Roster Locks
C - Francisco Alvarez
1B - Pete Alonso
2B - Jeff McNeil
SS - Francisco Lindor
LF - Brandon Nimmo
RF - Juan Soto
BN - Luis Torrens
BN - Tyrone Taylor
Upgrade Areas
3B
CF
Dan Hurley
BN
BN
Obviously not all of these are trade guys. If you trade for a CF you can probably fill the other 4 with a combo of Vientos/Mauricio at 3B and Winker/Marte at Dan Hurley and that's your 5 guys. A legitimate Dan Hurley over Winker/Marte would be a nice luxury though
Roster Locks
SP - Kodai Senga
SP - Sean Manaea
SP - Clay Holmes
SP - David Peterson
RP - Edwin Diaz
RP - Huascar Brazoban
RP - Jose Butto
RP - Reed Garrett
Upgrade Areas
SP
SP
RP
RP
RP
Gonna be some internal options here again to fill a few spots with Montas and Megill as SP options, plus Sproat/McLean/Tong/Tidwell. And hopefully 1 or 2 of Stanek, Kranick, Raley, Smith pitch well enough to be on a postseason roster as well.
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Agreed. And I'm not against trading one of them, I just don't see anything impactful out there to get back right now.
Vientos for 2 months of Luis Robert is the popular rumor which would be a disaster. You could sell me on Mitch Keller but any of the other names out there I don't love moving any of those 4 guys for
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I am a believer in Vientos. The way he hit at the end of last year was not a two week fluke and it's not like he had a hole in his swing that pitchers caught up to. I'm not sure what his issue is, but I feel like he's going to be a real solid major leaguer for a while.
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Looked like Soto got hosed on a couple of pitches.
I know human error is part of the game but I’m ready for the Automated Ball Strike system or at the very least being able to challenge.
I know human error is part of the game but I’m ready for the Automated Ball Strike system or at the very least being able to challenge.
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Did Soto argue balls and strikes this much in the past? I didn't watch him enough to know and he really gets fired up at bad calls.
And it's important to note...every time I've seen him mad, he's been right.
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Definitely the best 7/8/9 combo in the league now. I'd even extend it to Soto/Garrett for the 6th inning too. Both are a bit shaky but it's hard to do much better than them for lower leverage spots.
I wouldn't mind adding another SP but don't expect it, CF needs to happen today though
Well to be fair, they scored enough in game 1 against the Pads to win. Montas and Brazoban melted down in the 5th, went from 5-1 Mets to 6-5 Pads in one inning - partly because Brazoban didn't cover 1st base.
The last 2 games were dreadful though. The big names gotta start pulling weight again. It's just the way it goes, but this season we were being carried by Lindor and Polar Bear in the first month or 2, then Soto got scorching hot but Polar Bear and Lindor faded some, Nimmo got hot - now Alonso is ice cold, Nimmo, Lindor and Soto are cool as well and the back half has finally come alive and started hitting some. Just can't get multiple going at once for any length of time. Not to mention the dreadful numbers with runners in score position.
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I have come around to really wanting Robert, I dont know that I want him at the asking price being batted about. But he'd be a nice addition for sure. Mullins is a decent pivot if the asking price is too high on Robert Jr.
Feels like we need another starter. Holmes is fading fast and I doubt they are going to keep him as a traditional starter much longer. Montas is fine as #5, not so enticing to think about him starting a playoff game. Senga should be fine but he's had a long history of injury issues and also won't pitch on short rest which complicates a playoff series. Manaea looks good but needs to get stretched out some and Peterson is oddly kind of the most reliable guy right now.
A 1,2,3 of Senga, Manaea and Peterson is fine - but with Senga's need for extended time between starts and Manaea coming off injury - that's less that ideal as is IMO. And if Senga tweaks something man we will be in a bind.
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Got your wish with Mullins. Don't love him as a player but he's a big upgrade over Taylor and hopefully he can get hot in the 2nd half like last year
The bats finally woke up!
Today was a great example for what the vision is of this pen. Senga didn’t have it clearly and the pen locked it down. Going to Garrett in the 5th when he was our set up man not too long ago! The new additions have been impressive so far.
Today was a great example for what the vision is of this pen. Senga didn’t have it clearly and the pen locked it down. Going to Garrett in the 5th when he was our set up man not too long ago! The new additions have been impressive so far.
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