The Official 2019 Mets Thread

[ihatepants]

Good for you but I’m not giving him up for a 4.33 ERA guy especially when he’s not enough. And just so you know the Mets only consider Garcia worth anything of the 3 spoken about in a trade with the other 2 being Frazier and Andujar. They wanted Garcia but neither of those 2 nor Florial. So maybe me and the Mets are wrong and you’re right? Never know...

If you're agreeing with the Mets, then I feel like I have a far better chance at being right.

Edit: also do you have a link for this? I don't remember seeing anything about the Mets wanting Garcia or even discussing Frazier and Andujar as well.

 

[mauconnfan]

If you're agreeing with the Mets, then I feel like I have a far better chance at being right.

Edit: also do you have a link for this? I don't remember seeing anything about the Mets wanting Garcia or even discussing Frazier and Andujar as well.

The Mets point is well taken lol

 

[the Q]

they bought high on a heavily used short right handed pitcher who hasnt pitched as well as his era would reflect.

when they are done with whatever it is they are trying to do we’ll all see it to save some nominal amount of salary because the franchise is an absolute joke.

not so sure about this buying high concept. certainly more than last year. But how big of a return was it really?

Text from an American League executive: "The Blue Jays' return for Stroman is embarrassing compared to what the Indians just got for Bauer."

— Robert Murray (@ByRobertMurray) July 31, 2019

 

[whaler11]

not so sure about this buying high concept. certainly more than last year. But how big of a return was it really?

Text from an American League executive: "The Blue Jays' return for Stroman is embarrassing compared to what the Indians just got for Bauer."

— Robert Murray (@ByRobertMurray) July 31, 2019

They traded for Stroman in the middle of his best major league season that’s essentially the definition of buying high.

The Blue Jays may have paniced but they were in a much different situation than Cleveland and if you think the haul for Stroman wasnt good, it could be that the market values him differently... the market for 5’7 right handed pitchers generally isn’t robust

 

[8893]

They traded for Stroman in the middle of his best major league season that’s essentially the definition of buying high.

The Blue Jays may have paniced but they were in a much different situation than Cleveland and if you think the haul for Stroman wasnt good, it could be that the market values him differently... the market for 5’7 right handed pitchers generally isn’t robust

Mike Hampton looks down on Stroman.

 

[the Q]

They traded for Stroman in the middle of his best major league season that’s essentially the definition of buying high.

The Blue Jays may have paniced but they were in a much different situation than Cleveland and if you think the haul for Stroman wasnt good, it could be that the market values him differently... the market for 5’7 right handed pitchers generally isn’t robust

And didn’t pay the price remotely close to what he’s pitched like.

I don’t like him as a long term bet because short guys fade fast (see Kazmir).

But this price isn’t outrageous at all.

 

[whaler11]

And didn’t pay the price remotely close to what he’s pitched like.

I don’t like him as a long term bet because short guys fade fast (see Kazmir).

But this price isn’t outrageous at all.

the price isnt outrageous the trade just makes no sense for actually building a winning team. there isn’t any reason to want stroman if you are the mets.

 

[the Q]

the price isnt outrageous the trade just makes no sense for actually building a winning team. there isn’t any reason to want stroman if you are the mets.

That I agree with.

As I said before, if a team like the Yankees or Astros gave up a comparable level of talent for Stroman it would’ve been fine.

The Mets basically bought Stroman rather than wade into this years fa market to replace wheeler or Vargas. It’s not the best move or use of resources, but it’s also not BVW’s worst move.

 

[whaler11]

That I agree with.

As I said before, if a team like the Yankees or Astros gave up a comparable level of talent for Stroman it would’ve been fine.

The Mets basically bought Stroman rather than wade into this years fa market to replace wheeler or Vargas. It’s not the best move or use of resources, but it’s also not BVW’s worst move.

he’d have to burn down citi field to top the cano trade

 

[Deepster]

The Mets aren't in rebuild mode. With Stroman, they can control what their staff looks like next year.

If they get a deal they can't pass up for Syndergaard, they make it. Stroman helps fill the gap.
If they don't get a blockbuster, they get a lesser deal for Wheeler. Stroman helps fill the gap.

I think you're looking at deGrom, Syndergaard, Stroman and Matz 1-4 next year. Why is that bad?

 

[the Q]

he’d have to burn down citi field to top the cano trade

We need something stronger than the like button....

 

[the Q]

The Mets aren't in rebuild mode. With Stroman, they can control what their staff looks like next year.

If they get a deal they can't pass up for Syndergaard, they make it. Stroman helps fill the gap.
If they don't get a blockbuster, they get a lesser deal for Wheeler. Stroman helps fill the gap.

I think you're looking at deGrom, Syndergaard, Stroman and Matz 1-4 next year. Why is that bad?

What’s the rest of the path to contention?

They have holes across the infield besides Alonso.

They need a good cf and to assume that cespedes is the same coming back at his age is an assumption in its own right. Not to mention the gasoline crew that is called the bullpen.

Will the Mets actually spend money after squandering so much on the geriatric cano?

It’s a lot of work if the Mets aren’t going to seriously bump up the payroll.

 

[Deepster]

What’s the rest of the path to contention?

They have holes across the infield besides Alonso.

They need a good cf and to assume that cespedes is the same coming back at his age is an assumption in its own right. Not to mention the gasoline crew that is called the bullpen.

Will the Mets actually spend money after squandering so much on the geriatric cano?

It’s a lot of work if the Mets aren’t going to seriously bump up the payroll.

McNeil is a hole? I think Rosario can still potentially be a decent option at SS. 3B was supposed to be Frazier and Lowrie. I think they would only need to address 3B next season.

Nimmo should be back. I don't expect Cespedes to ever wear a Mets uniform again. Dom Smith. Conforto. Nimmo. Add in a full time CF?

 

[Waquoit]

I'm not mad. I do find it interesting that a fan of such a perennial bottom feeder is this critical of a team in an entirely different league.

He trolls fans of losing teams, doesn't matter the sport.

 

[Alum86]

I was in AC. Should have put a prop bet like that Blues fan, on the Mets.
Basically Stroman for Vargas. LOL.
#wheretheFisJed?

 

[the Q]

he’d have to burn down citi field to top the cano trade

BVW says hold my beer....

 

[navery12]

BVW says hold my beer....

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Posting anything Ehalt says on this board should get you banned

 

[the Q]

Posting anything Ehalt says on this board should get you banned

Lol.

I haven’t heard of the guy. But there’s now two sources running with the story. That’s enough smoke to at least bring it up.

 

[navery12]

Lol.

I haven’t heard of the guy. But there’s now two sources running with the story. That’s enough smoke to at least bring it up.

He's a UConn "fan" who went to Cuse and now just kills the program any chance he gets. He'd fit in well here actually

 

[the Q]

He's a UConn "fan" who went to Cuse and now just kills the program any chance he gets. He'd fit in well here actually

At least this is Mets related?

 

[navery12]

At least this is Mets related?

I feel like this rumor has to be false. There's no way they would have turned that down

 

[lavuuk153]

I’m just glad the Mets are giving me false hope. Give me a winning August and it at least takes me to other sports starting up again.

If they take 2/3 this weekend and 3/4 against the Marlins I might start thinking my false hope has some real hope in it.

 

[Deepster]

Holding my breath and waiting for Whaler11 to show up and admit maybe BVW does know what he's doing....

 

[8893]

Holding my breath and waiting for Whaler11 to show up and admit maybe BVW does know what he's doing....

Shhhh...don't jinx it!!!

Even I could script the narrative that all they've done is beat up on the Little Sisters of the Poor and let's see what they do against a team that's above them in the standings, starting with the Nats tomorrow.

 

[whaler11]

Holding my breath and waiting for Whaler11 to show up and admit maybe BVW does know what he's doing....

they got hot, don’t worry the regression is coming and he doesn’t know what he is doing.

 

[Deepster]

they got hot, don’t worry the regression is coming and he doesn’t know what he is doing.

Yeah. Not trading Syndergaard and Wheeler, then getting Stroman has worked out horribly. Can't wait for you to "school me" more on being a MLB GM.

 

[whaler11]

Yeah. Not trading Syndergaard and Wheeler, then getting Stroman has worked out horribly. Can't wait for you to "school me" more on being a MLB GM.

lol yeah that’s how you judge mlb general managers and mlb trades. after a week of playing a AAA team.

 

[8893]

I'm just happy that Alonso got off the schneid last night. He was so happy that it made me happy.

LFGM!

 

[Deepster]

lol yeah that’s how you judge mlb general managers and mlb trades. after a week of playing a AAA team.

No. If you paid any attention, I said the jury is still out on him and you're making a kneejerk judgement. You just love waiting until someone is down, then kicking them in the teeth like you saw it coming all along. It's a coward's position because you can't lose.

 

[storrsroars]

lol yeah that’s how you judge mlb general managers and mlb trades. after a week of playing a AAA team.

If you're talking about the Pirates, the AAA team may be better.