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Taya Reimer transferring from Notre Dame -- or not

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After a day of Taya Reimer's transfer from Notre Dame being treated as a non-item by Taya Reimer, Notre Dame, and sporting news outlets, this has been posted on McGraw's Bench:

From: Peter Byrnes, StationWSBT via Twitter

"Update on Reimer: Team spokesperson says she is "still a member of the team". Her status for Sunday's game (vs BC, 1 pm) is uncertain"
 
I'd love to get her down to Tennessee! She and Mercedes would make an imposing frontcourt one day.
 
What's all this I hear about the Rhymer Transporting?

Poets should not be allowed on the starship Enterprise because they will just get everything all confused and think that a Clingan is like a Vulcan or a Ferengi or a Romulan or a Betazoid and . . . . What? . . . . Oh, really! . . . . Never mind.

B!tch.

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The ND spokesperson didn't say she's staying. He said, speaking in the present, that she's still a member of the team.

I interpret it that the spokesperson (probably the ever ND-sanguine Chris Masters) is saying that (a) as far as ND is concerned, and (b) as of right now, that's the case.

If she's not leaving, or at best in limbo, why is her status for Sunday's game "uncertain?"

Have been surmising they prevailed on her (they have leverage in the matter of her release to talk to other schools) to mull it over the weekend and not make any hasty announcement until she's done that.

And then talked with them some more. Maybe they make some promises addressing her (rumored, alluded to on ND board) grievances.

So I think the situation plays out a little longer. And if I had to guess I'd say she's not playing Sunday.
 
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Very confusing. But, whether it's should I stay or should I go the damage has been done. An unhappy (whatever the causes) woman amongst the elfs. I have extended an offer to send by Border Collie to SouthBend-- getting the flock back in order can only be good for the game.
 
I heard some rumors that she could end up at Texas Purdue Penn St or Tenn. Nothing definite yet.
 
Orangutan said:
http://m.ndinsider.com/basketball/w...d6c-9864-11e4-a83a-a350934dc3a1.html?mode=jqm

South Bend Trib article on this. Includes the revelation that she received hate mail after the "I Can't Breathe" shirts.
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Reimer's more recent decline in performance from early in the season does seem to stem from around the time she received the photos of the burning ND women shirts in response to her part in leading the wearing of the "I can't breathe shirts" at a pre-game practice, something that seems to have really upset her.

If true, it again shows how the acts of a few vicious fans can cause a lot of stress in these athletes' lives who are already trying to handle the demands of a tough coach like Muffet or Geno and a top program.
 
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On the on again/off again situation - there have been a few players that went down that road and those that stayed didn't necessarily cause 'problems' for the team. As i recall there was a weekend when Sims at Baylor was really upset and left the team only to return and play really well for them for the rest of her time. (If that is an incorrect recollection I apologize.)
 
DobbsRover2 said:
If true, it again shows how the acts of a few vicious fans can cause a lot of stress in these athletes' lives who are already trying to handle the demands of a tough coach like Muffet or Geno and a top program.
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They're college kids. I hate to think how I would have handled (or more likely not handled) these kinds of pressures, with hate mail tossed into the pot on top of academic and basketball pressures, when I was in college.
 
If , in fact, Reimer's decision to consider leaving is a result of reaction to the "I can't breathe" saga then I hope she stays at ND. When she , as a quasi-public person, decided to take a stand on a divisive issue , she was probably surprised and ill-prepared to handle the reported backlash. Hopefully she can take a step back and realize that actions have consequences and make this an important life learning experience. While stressful in the short run, I'm not sure running from the unintended ramifications caused by one's convictions will help her grow personally. I say all this without knowing all the facts.
ps...Muffet should never allowed the shirts in the first place.
 
rugbymate said:
If , in fact, Reimer's decision to consider leaving is a result of reaction to the "I can't breathe" saga then I hope she stays at ND. When she , as a quasi-public person, decided to take a stand on a divisive issue , she was probably surprised and ill-prepared to handle the reported backlash. Hopefully she can take a step back and realize that actions have consequences and make this an important life learning experience. While stressful in the short run, I'm not sure running from the unintended ramifications caused by one's convictions will help her grow personally. I say all this without knowing all the facts.
ps...Muffet should never allowed the shirts in the first place.
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If that is the issue, and she leaves and resurfaces elsewhere as a highly visible athlete, why would she think the fan reaction wouldn't just follow her to the new school? I bet there's more to it than just fans and outside haters.
 
rugbymate said:
If , in fact, Reimer's decision to consider leaving is a result of reaction to the "I can't breathe" saga then I hope she stays at ND. When she , as a quasi-public person, decided to take a stand on a divisive issue , she was probably surprised and ill-prepared to handle the reported backlash. Hopefully she can take a step back and realize that actions have consequences and make this an important life learning experience. While stressful in the short run, I'm not sure running from the unintended ramifications caused by one's convictions will help her grow personally. I say all this without knowing all the facts.
ps...Muffet should never allowed the shirts in the first place.
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So it is our duty while exercising our moral convictions and taking a stand with our teammates to let herself now be the target of vicious attacks by the social detritus who send hate mail of this type as a backlash of their own twisted beliefs concerning social action? Sure let's burn a shirt, or a flag, or a book, or a record, or a life, because that's how we lash back at those who do not share our moral convictions.

Best thing Muffet can do to back her troubled player is to reaffirm again the "I can't breathe" action and show that ND will not in any way condone or bend to the actions of a few twisted fans.
 
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DobbsRover2 said:
So it is our duty while exercising our moral convictions and taking a stand with our teammates to let herself now be the target of vicious attacks by the social detritus who send hate mail of this type as a backlash of their own twisted beliefs concerning social action? Sure let's burn a shirt, or a flag, or a book, or a record, or a life, because that's how we lash back at those who do not share our moral convictions.

Best thing Muffet can do to back her troubled player is to reaffirm again the "I can't breathe" action and show that ND will not in any way condone or bend to the actions of a few twisted fans.
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I don't condone hatemail or over the top responses to any one who expresses an opinion. But one could substitute the words " I love cops" for "I can't breathe" on a tee shirt and she would have received hate mail etc from a different group of people. That's what a divisive issue is and ,unfortunately, in our increasingly polarized society extreme responses are becoming commonplace. This may have been the young student athletes first foray into such social issues and she sounds overwhelmed with the response.When Reimer puts the ND uniform on she represents the student body, the administration, the alumni and the trustees. Someone more seasoned , as in Muffet, should have had a better understanding of the potential consequences.
 
Orangutan said:
I wonder about burnout for some of these transfers, a la Delle Donne. These girls play year-round since middle school. Now you get to college and the stakes are higher and your coach is on your back and...maybe it just stops being fun. We want them to knuckle down and push through it, but why should they?
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Bad example. May be the reason for some but not her. She transferred out before the season even started. Her decision was based on a family issue. To me, it sure looked like she 'knucked down' at Delaware.
 
DobbsRover2 said:
So it is our duty while exercising our moral convictions and taking a stand with our teammates to let herself now be the target of vicious attacks by the social detritus who send hate mail of this type as a backlash of their own twisted beliefs concerning social action? Sure let's burn a shirt, or a flag, or a book, or a record, or a life, because that's how we lash back at those who do not share our moral convictions.

Best thing Muffet can do to back her troubled player is to reaffirm again the "I can't breathe" action and show that ND will not in any way condone or bend to the actions of a few twisted fans.
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So a kid makes a statement about a hotly contested social issue. Right or wrong, she makes a statement that says cops didn't receive the appropriate consequences for their actions. And then when there are consequences – right or wrong – for her actions and that's a problem? The should stick to playing basketball.
 
Yes, of course all speculation that this was part of the issue...... but if you want to make such a statement you must also have the courage to absorb the blowback..... that is just part of it....... not into accepting her as a victim if the tshirts had anything to do with this.
 
I can assure you that if Taye transfer to a predominantly 'Black University"there would not be a big uproar and the burning of T-shirts because of the "I Can't Breathe' T-Shirts.Just a thought.
 
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ctfjr said:
Bad example. May be the reason for some but not her. She transferred out before the season even started. Her decision was based on a family issue. To me, it sure looked like she 'knucked down' at Delaware.
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I believe Delle Donne did say she was tired of basketball, and that it was no longer fun for her when she left UConn. So it was part family, part basketball burn out. When she got to Delaware she did not play basketball for a year. Instead she played volleyball and eventually joined the basketball team.
 
Woof 101 said:
Wow what a kick in the shamrocks! I do and always will respect Muffy but I have no love at all for ND in any sport. So no sympathy here for a team that managed to lose a starter half way through a season. Wish Taya well but really wonder what the issue could be to make a change so late.
A dent in the ND halos for sure and a big pair of shoes to fill as I think their season goes down hill.
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I respect and admire the way her teams play basketball. But Respect for Muppet ended for me with the orchestrated ND Team no acknowledgement of Stewie POY award, coupled with there is no class at the top of the Women's game comment. Funny, if she were at the top of the women's game, she would have been right!
 
HoopsFan21 said:
I believe Delle Donne did say she was tired of basketball, and that it was no longer fun for her when she left UConn. So it was part family, part basketball burn out. When she got to Delaware she did not play basketball for a year. Instead she played volleyball and eventually joined the basketball team.
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HF21- that may have been a smoke screen comment- we'll never know. And I think she could not play basketball the first yr as part of the transfer rules I think. Then Geno had to authorize her playing B Ball at Delaware I think?
 
DobbsRover2 said:
So it is our duty while exercising our moral convictions and taking a stand with our teammates to let herself now be the target of vicious attacks by the social detritus who send hate mail of this type as a backlash of their own twisted beliefs concerning social action? Sure let's burn a shirt, or a flag, or a book, or a record, or a life, because that's how we lash back at those who do not share our moral convictions.

Best thing Muffet can do to back her troubled player is to reaffirm again the "I can't breathe" action and show that ND will not in any way condone or bend to the actions of a few twisted fans.
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So let me understand this--- Taya Reimer is the only person that is able to express her/their views, and no one else has the right to express their disagreement with her views. First amendment only goes in one direction in this country I guess. And everyone is speculating on this. And obviously any extreme hate mail, etc... is uncalled for and wrong--obviously. So is burning down cities when you disagree with something as well. I'll bet her leaving has little to do with this issue--- just a guess.
 
Orangutan said:
http://m.ndinsider.com/basketball/w...d6c-9864-11e4-a83a-a350934dc3a1.html?mode=jqm

South Bend Trib article on this. Includes the revelation that she received hate mail after the "I Can't Breathe" shirts.
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If true, that is awful. As a veteran activist of several causes, I'd tell her that anytime you take a stand you feel strongly about, there will be people that criticize you. I don't care where she transfers or if she stays at ND, there will be people that would criticize any particular stand. She's a young woman and she should use this to empower herself and become a leader - on the team and in life.
 
Geno-ista said:
So let me understand this--- Taya Reimer is the only person that is able to express her/their views, and no one else has the right to express their disagreement with her views. First amendment only goes in one direction in this country I guess. And everyone is speculating on this. And obviously any extreme hate mail, etc... is uncalled for and wrong--obviously. So is burning down cities when you disagree with something as well. I'll bet her leaving has little to do with this issue--- just a guess.
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Disagreement is all well and good but there is a matter of proportion. Reimer wore a t-shirt with a quote that people didn't like. In response, people addressed theselves specifically to her with hate mail vitriolic enough to concern the police. It was a reaction out of proportion to the "offense".

And just as a general comment, the First Amendment doesn't say people can say whatever they want, wherever they want. It's meant to protect the right to freedom of religion and freedom of expression from government interference.
 
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