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Yankees32123 said:
We just signed Shonn Miller. Our front court is probably set. And I think you're way overestimating Nolan's offseason development. He will be serviceable at times, but the more he's on the bench the better.
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Amazing, we need this guy. He's a better defender than both Brimah and Facey in pure defense, they are clueless. One can block shots and that's an impact the other, well he's not Nolan. You better hope Nolan is even better this year because his 5 fouls will be a key in a lot of games with that front court I promise!
 
If we 'need' Nolan this year, we're not very good.

And if we run too many minutes with Nolan and Samuel in the court together again, I'll need to be sedated.
 
Fishy said:
If we 'need' Nolan this year, we're not very good. And if we run too many minutes with Nolan and Samuel in the court together again, I'll need to be sedated.
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It's a combination that can work well with some creativity - neither of their defenders have to guard them, so when both leave to bring help, they'll often bump into each other, thereby opening driving lanes.
 
Fishy said:
Phil is overmatched.

Forget his offense - it doesn't exist. It's actually hard to play the minutes he does and touch the ball as infrequently as he does.

When he does, thirty-percent of his possessions directly result in a turnover. He's invisible on the offensive glass. He played 15 minutes a game this year and converted four free throws. Four.

He is a sporadically effective defender, but by no means is he a good defensive player. He doesn't rebound, doesn't block shots and he doesn't keep people off the glass.

But at least he's prone to fouling. If you ever want to project his numbers over forty minutes, you can't - he'd foul out in 29.
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I guess this is right. I mostly disagreed because I thought you said he was overmatched @ the D1 level, but you really said at our level. He would be averaging 11 and 5 at some mid major and we would be hoping he could grad transfer.

I was about to make the point that Phil types are scattered around all top teams as the 4th and 5th best big, then I realized this wasn't very effective in proving he isn't overmatched.
 
Not saying Nolan is going to get ample playing time, but he's probably the best guy setting screens up top for the guards.

He won't be buried on the bench though. Definitely think a Tyler Olander role would work just fine.
 
The possible up-tempo lineup of J. Adams, T. Samuels, R. Purvis, D. Hamilton, Shonn Miller could give us great stretches especially against small lineups. Scoring every where if Adams, Purvis, Hamilton and Miller are all as threatening from deep as they should be. Jalen or Dham bringing the ball up, especially if there's pressure, Tsam will then have the lanes to be aggressive slashing to the room and hopefully he picks up some passing ability. Adams Purvis and Hamilton can all create there own scoring opportunities as well. Haven't seen enough of miller to really know but he's strong, mobile and adept at rebounding and is a credible outside threat. Exciting if there all bringing intensity and stepping up. No boatright watching. I always tuned in a bit harder whenever boat was out because i knew that's the base of what we were going to look like next season. The level of intensity of the whole squad always seemed to perk up at least in close games. Adams Enoch and Miller all fill needs but a larger combo guard with handle and an outside shot would be the ideal addition in one. true ballhandler/creator and a wing shooter if Ollie truly plans to fill the 2 open schollies. Are we still in for the german kid who plays with Giffey?
 
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Fishy said:
If we 'need' Nolan this year, we're not very good.

And if we run too many minutes with Nolan and Samuel in the court together again, I'll need to be sedated.
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We "need" his 5 fouls and experience in using them to give our other bigs time off or in foul trouble minutes. His minutes last half of the year had more impact than Facey although one would be led to believe Kentan has more upside. Hopefully we do see it but mentally Phil knows where to be and rarely hurts us on the defensive end unless he's trying to take a charge which isn't there Dukie style. The other guy is lost. Not knowing where Enoch will be on that end as well as how much Kelis Fisher will improve, for now it would seem Phil's experience backing up both Amida and Shonn will be required and welcome at times.
 
mauconnfan said:
We "need" his 5 fouls and experience in using them to give our other bigs time off or in foul trouble minutes. His minutes last half of the year had more impact than Facey although one would be led to believe Kentan has more upside. Hopefully we do see it but mentally Phil knows where to be and rarely hurts us on the defensive end unless he's trying to take a charge which isn't there Dukie style. The other guy is lost. Not knowing where Enoch will be on that end as well as how much Kelis Fisher will improve, for now it would seem Phil's experience backing up both Amida and Shonn will be required and welcome at times.
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Facey is actually older than Nolan I believe. I think he'll become a solid player eventually, but at some point you wonder how much real growth there is left for a guy who is almost 22 and looks as tentative as he does at times.

The second half of his season was tough, especially considering what he did in the Duke game.
 
Fishy said:
Phil is overmatched.

Forget his offense - it doesn't exist. It's actually hard to play the minutes he does and touch the ball as infrequently as he does.

When he does, thirty-percent of his possessions directly result in a turnover. He's invisible on the offensive glass. He played 15 minutes a game this year and converted four free throws. Four.

He is a sporadically effective defender, but by no means is he a good defensive player. He doesn't rebound, doesn't block shots and he doesn't keep people off the glass.

But at least he's prone to fouling. If you ever want to project his numbers over forty minutes, you can't - he'd foul out in 29.
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He played very solidly in our championship run.
 
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He's gone from JV ball to the best high school league in the country in the span of 24 months, averaged a 15 & 11 and played game-in, game-out against high Division 1 recruits (guys like Dickinson, Reuter, Sharma, etc). At age 17 he's 6-foot-9, 230 lbs with a 7-foot-4 wingspan. Those are NBA measurements.

Enoch's ceiling is higher than any PF we've landed since Donyell. This isn't a prediction that he'll be that good, or even Adrien-Boone-Freeman level. But god**** am I pumped to see how he develops in Storrs.
 
Many of you might disagree with me but I honestly don't think Enoch will do much this season. Now once Brimah and Facey graduate, Enoch will really be something. I think his Junior and Senior seasons will be special. However, I think he has quite some adjusting to do as of right now. But when it's all said and done, I think he will end up being a great player for this program.
 
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JimOllie said:
Many of you might disagree with me but I honestly don't think Enoch will do much this season. Now once Brimah and Facey graduate, Enoch will really be something. I think his Junior and Senior seasons will be special. However, I think he has quite some adjusting to do as of right now. But when it's all said and done, I think he will end up being a great player for this program.
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Agree. We are crowded in the front court with brimah, miller and some Hamilton. Even if he beats out facey and Nolan for all their minutes he will only play 15-20. If hes good enough to beat out brimah or miller for minutes then this team can be a top 5 team in college basketball.
 
I can't imagine that Hamilton will be seeing a ton of time at the 4 unless something happens to Miller.
 
CallMeBruce said:
I can't imagine that Hamilton will be seeing a ton of time at the 4 unless something happens to Miller.
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Yes. Miller is going to be the guy this year for us at PF. Nolan will back up Brimah. Enoch and Facey will back up Miller. Maybe at times we could go with a BIG lineup of Purvis, Hamilton, Enoch, Miller, and Brimah. I've heard Enoch being compared to DeAndre so he could possibly see some time at the 3 if Ollie decides to go big.
 
James said:
espn missing the boat and leaving him out of their espn100 is a complete joke.
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duck em. Rivals and 247 are much higher regarded today.

Can anyone remember the last time we had a big bodied PF/C that was more offensively ready than defensively? It's been a while.
 
JimOllie said:
Many of you might disagree with me but I honestly don't think Enoch will do much this season. Now once Brimah and Facey graduate, Enoch will really be something. I think his Junior and Senior seasons will be special. However, I think he has quite some adjusting to do as of right now. But when it's all said and done, I think he will end up being a great player for this program.
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I think most of the rational posters on the board agree with that. As high as Enoch's ceiling is, he's not going to be a high-level Day 1 contributor, and is likely to be on campus for at least three years. He's still so young and so raw.

And it's also important to note that he hasn't played a ton of high-level games where, if you don't get your defensive rotations right, you immediately get punished. We've seen both Brimah and Facey struggle with that.

CallMeBruce said:
I can't imagine that Hamilton will be seeing a ton of time at the 4 unless something happens to Miller.
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Maybe. But I'd bet there will be times when Ollie wants to go to a 4-out 1-in set, where it's a single rim protector and four shooters around him. It's the type of thing NBA coaches do all the time, and Ollie runs an NBA-style offense.
 
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JimOllie said:
Yes. Miller is going to be the guy this year for us at PF. Nolan will back up Brimah. Enoch and Facey will back up Miller. Maybe at times we could go with a BIG lineup of Purvis, Hamilton, Enoch, Miller, and Brimah. I've heard Enoch being compared to DeAndre so he could possibly see some time at the 3 if Ollie decides to go big.
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Enoch is absolutely not a 3.
 
Gibbs-Adams-Purvis-Hamilton-Miller would spread the floor like a sorority girl's legs. I'm sure Hamilton will see time at the 4 when we play small, which will definitely happen.
 
JimOllie said:
I know he's a PF but I've heard being compared to DeAndre. DeAndre saw plenty of time at the 3 and 4.
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I don't know who told you that Enoch is like Daniels, but that person is a liar. Enoch will not be playing SF at UConn.
 
CallMeBruce said:
I don't know who told you that Enoch is like Daniels, but that person is a liar. Enoch will not be playing SF at UConn.
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It was on here a few weeks ago. They said Ollie sees Enoch as a bigger DeAndre.
 
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