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So who starts at QB next week?

In all fairness to Pindell we just had a 71-yard TD drive then proceeded to gain 15 yards on 2 plays the next drive and that 2nd play was his fumble. He clearly had 1st game jitters, I wouldn't be so quick to push him out of the picture just yet. Give it a couple more chances and then if not BS it is.
 
I'm sorry that anyone even has a question about this it is 100% Bryant Sheriff's I sit in the front row 35-yard line right behind the offense. My next post will be an upload of the pictures of what happened to David Pindell after he was pulled from the game he absolutely gave up on his team.
This was evident on TV too. They kept cutting to Pindell and he was alone / standing and not showing emotion even though the team was scoring and playing well. The look on his face told it all. BS was the opposite when replaced by Williams or getting killed out there. He was always in it for the team.
 
I wouldn't be upset by any means if BS gets the start next week, but the offensive line was MUCH better with him in the game than Pindell. I can't hold that against Pindell.

Yes you can. Experience and leadership count for a lot at the QB position. Pindell looked like the second coming of Donovan Williams' burned redshirt, and against a I-AA team. If he looks this bad against a lower division program, I shudder to think what's going to happen when you throw him out there against a real football team like USF.
 
This was evident on TV too. They kept cutting to Pindell and he was alone / standing and not showing emotion even though the team was scoring and playing well. The look on his face told it all. BS was the opposite when replaced by Williams or getting killed out there. He was always in it for the team.
The kid is human... I think anyone in that spot would feel a little dejected and hard on himself. Lot of pressure on these guys.
Basing everything on one camera shot is unfair.
 
HC tacklers were in the Pindell's face right after the snap most of the time. Pindell was under pressure. He is young and has some jitters but he clearly has talent. The O line did not help Pindell and Newsome. But BS clearly saved the day and his leadership and experience showed. The team appeared to have lots of confidence in him. BS should be the starter based on accomplishment and success in game situation.
 
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With this OL, both will play. Could not get over how bad they were.


This. It really doesn't matter who plays QB if the line non-blocks the way it did last night. Newsome was swamped every time he got the ball. Not sure if someone is tipping the run or what. While Hopkins was a nice surprise, I didn't see anything that explains why he had more success in getting some blocks.

The defense was also horrendous. Teams that can't defend or block lose a lot of games.

The return game looked pretty solid though. Swann was clearly on a mission to return everything. Now that we have had an actual return game, he can go back to making good decisions and not forcing it. But, he looks like he might be a good one back there.
 
This. It really doesn't matter who plays QB if the line non-blocks the way it did last night. Newsome was swamped every time he got the ball. Not sure if someone is tipping the run or what. While Hopkins was a nice surprise, I didn't see anything that explains why he had more success in getting some blocks.

The defense was also horrendous. Teams that can't defend or block lose a lot of games.

The return game looked pretty solid though. Swann was clearly on a mission to return everything. Now that we have had an actual return game, he can go back to making good decisions and not forcing it. But, he looks like he might be a good one back there.

Even with Swann's mistakes, I loved him returning kicks. He has a fearless approach that is just fun to watch. He hits holes fast and has the speed. He will only get better. Credit goes to RE for seeing the talent and trusting him back there.
 
U do not build a program by quitting on your QB after 1 week. Everyone knows BS played better. So what. There's a whole thread acknowledging we r in a rebuild. We r not rebuilding with a RSSr QB.

Please stop.

Everyone has valid points. However, I think gioff23 closing remark is most valid. Bryant won't be here next year. Yes, he is a better leader and the team has more confidence in him because of what.........experience.

I like Bryant and offer him a lot of respect for what he has done. Never had a solid group of supporting players around him.

Dave needs experience. Did anyone realistically think Tom Brady was taking over the program?

What other inexperienced QB on the sidelines would have done as good or better. He'll get better as he experiences adversity going from Jr college talent to FBS/FCS opposition. He, or some other QB on the bench has to experience football challenges and growing pains at this level as the program tries to rebuild for the future. ,,,,,,,, before the arrival of Fall 2018.

Bryant can be, and continues to be a valuable asset. He can be a tremendous learning asset to Dave P as we move forward
 
Even with Swann's mistakes, I loved him returning kicks. He has a fearless approach that is just fun to watch. He hits holes fast and has the speed. He will only get better. Credit goes to RE for seeing the talent and trusting him back there.

After fair catching with 7 yards of room, you knew he was returning the next punt regardless. I was surprised he wasn't benched after the punt sailed over his head but he did look like a jet.
 
Everyone has valid points. However, I think gioff23 closing remark is most valid. Bryant won't be here next year. Yes, he is a better leader and the team has more confidence in him because of what....experience.

I like Bryant and offer him a lot of respect for what he has done. Never had a solid group of supporting players around him.

Dave needs experience. Did anyone realistically think Tom Brady was taking over the program?

What other inexperienced QB on the sidelines would have done as good or better. He'll get better as he experiences adversity going from Jr college talent to FBS/FCS opposition. He, or some other QB on the bench has to experience football challenges and growing pains at this level as the program tries to rebuild for the future. ,,,,,,,, before the arrival of Fall 2018.

Bryant can be, and continues to be a valuable asset. He can be a tremendous learning asset to Dave P as we move forward

By that logic, why play Pindell this season if next year he's just going to be a senior too?
 
Everyone has valid points. However, I think gioff23 closing remark is most valid. Bryant won't be here next year. Yes, he is a better leader and the team has more confidence in him because of what....experience.

I like Bryant and offer him a lot of respect for what he has done. Never had a solid group of supporting players around him.

Dave needs experience. Did anyone realistically think Tom Brady was taking over the program?

What other inexperienced QB on the sidelines would have done as good or better. He'll get better as he experiences adversity going from Jr college talent to FBS/FCS opposition. He, or some other QB on the bench has to experience football challenges and growing pains at this level as the program tries to rebuild for the future. ,,,,,,,, before the arrival of Fall 2018.

Bryant can be, and continues to be a valuable asset. He can be a tremendous learning asset to Dave P as we move forward

We are rebuilding the entire team, not just quarterback. If BS is the better player, and right now it looks like he is, that helps everybody get better
 
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Reality: HC wore down in the second half and BS had more time to throw than Pindell. The BIGGEST play of the game was the roughing the kicker penalty. Uconn then took the ball down the field and didn't score (failed 4th down), but it kept HC D on the field, stopped their momentum, and changed the field after that crazy punt downed at the one. If that penalty doesn't occur, uconn likely loses.

Back to the QB...neither was good. BS was so late on so many passes, his timing was terrible. he got lucky twice that defenders fell. Pindell looked lost for most of the game, bad decisions, throwing into double coverage, etc. he was also playing his first game and HC pressured him a lot more.

I hope Pindell is better than that, but I think you kep with BS. He's gonna throw a pick 6 or get his wRs killed if he continues to be that late with his passes, but could also be a reflection of lack of first string time, first game, etc. And, cannot discount that entire got a lift and played better once he was put in.
 
This. It really doesn't matter who plays QB if the line non-blocks the way it did last night. Newsome was swamped every time he got the ball. Not sure if someone is tipping the run or what. While Hopkins was a nice surprise, I didn't see anything that explains why he had more success in getting some blocks.

The defense was also horrendous. Teams that can't defend or block lose a lot of games.

The return game looked pretty solid though. Swann was clearly on a mission to return everything. Now that we have had an actual return game, he can go back to making good decisions and not forcing it. But, he looks like he might be a good one back there.
Newsome isn't a between the tackles rb, he needs to be used in the passing game more and put Hopkins in to get the majority of the carries. I'd love to see both in the game at the same time. It would be nice to see the te s get some action, but they are probably being used to pass protect to help the disaster in the oline
 
We almost got beat by a 5th yr senior QB from HC tonight but thanks to another 5th yr senior from UCONN who came to our rescue that didn't happen. I think BS should get the nod against USF. The team just moved so much better and consistently with BS. We don't need anymore exhibition games. I'm sure Pindell will have other opportunities but against USF, I vote for Bryant. Pindell had that one great closeline rope tonight which proved to me he can wing it, however a lot of his throws looked like he was shot putting the ball. I say go with the hot hand against USF, Bryant Shirreffs.
Lindell's long ball did seem like a shot put type delivery - other than that he did ok. He clearly has a running gear BS doesn't have but BS got it done.
 
I think you have to stick with Pindell. Shirreffs played well but a lot of that was due to the fact that the Holy Cross defense was gassed late in the game. That is exactly what UConn's new offensive system is designed to do. The constant pressure of fast paced offenses is supposed to wear teams down.
 
Everyone has valid points. However, I think gioff23 closing remark is most valid. Bryant won't be here next year. Yes, he is a better leader and the team has more confidence in him because of what....experience.

I like Bryant and offer him a lot of respect for what he has done. Never had a solid group of supporting players around him.

Dave needs experience. Did anyone realistically think Tom Brady was taking over the program?

What other inexperienced QB on the sidelines would have done as good or better. He'll get better as he experiences adversity going from Jr college talent to FBS/FCS opposition. He, or some other QB on the bench has to experience football challenges and growing pains at this level as the program tries to rebuild for the future. ,,,,,,,, before the arrival of Fall 2018.

Bryant can be, and continues to be a valuable asset. He can be a tremendous learning asset to Dave P as we move forward

And meanwhile, the losses continue to pile up. We cannot afford to lose games, period. You play the guy that gives you the best chance to win games. It's not about next year. Bobby Fiasco screwed us with his lame approach to a season, supposedly always "building for the future." The future is now.

You want examples? Try Jameis Winston. Stepped in from day one as a true freshman, and didn't have the luxury of any JUCO experience. Yeah I know we don't have any Jameis Winstons on the roster, but Pindell isn't even remotely close to Tyler Lorenzen when he came here with similar prior experience. I was at Lorenzen's first game vs. Duke. He was poised and ready to play at this level. Granted he had an OL and this team obviously doesn't, but he was a leader. The lack of an OL makes it even more imperative for Shirreffs to start. He's proven capable of performing despite that handicap.
 
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Bryant missed a couple throws but when the lights came on he proved himself to be a leader...Pindell...not so much.

I think it's an easy call.
Yes, BS gets the start but Pindell will be back. Hated to see BS overthrow the deep ball, just like last year. He's a tough kid and a real competitor, the team needed that last night.
 
I have to go back and watch the game on my DVR to see it all more clearly.

My hunch is that pindell didn't have full command of the plays or setting the o line or something because the team did seem to respond better to Sherriffs. Also, Pindell seemed nervous too and never settled in.

I would tell Pindell this is your team, but we are going to go with Sherriffs this week to give you extra time to master the offense. I would tell him get ready for week three.

After I watch the game tonight/tomorrow I may change my mind, but that is what I am thinking this morning.
 
I don't think that it is good for the kid or the program to name someone a starting qb and then not start him more than once. Looks like the coaches understand that if a starter is not doing the job, for whatever reason, there will be a change - don't think that would have happened with last 2 HCs. Pindell did have decent stats and I am convinced he has the tools to be very very good. He needs to start next Saturday but needs to understand that if it is not going well, BS is going in. And BS needs to know that he will be on the sidelines Saturday but be assured that they will call his number. It is a luxury to have - now lets work on that OL
 
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No we don't. We have never seen him play four quarters with a real OC, a real coach and an offense that is actually trying to move the ball and score points.

Shirrefs has been the whipping boy on and off the field for two years. He took way more blame than he deserved. He was benched for a guy who is now a second string WR. He played hurt. He lost his job to a Juco and never once complained

Then he comes in, moves the ball. Leads a double digit comeback from late in the third quarter and then a game sealing drive to kill the clock.

He deserves to start. Even ignoring what he's been through here before edsall. He lead 3 scoring drives to take the lead and iced the game at the end.

And he deserves more respect from this fan base.

I think Pindell has a higher ceiling. But if the offense is better with Shirrefs, and it clearly was tonight, then he should start. Period.


Maybe you don't. I have seen him enough to know he tends to be bad in the first half of games and better in the second half. I am a BS fan, but he isn't doing that for 4 quarters. Part of the reason it worked last night was the other team wasn't prepared for him. So, yes the offense looked better with him...for one quarter. Pindell completed almost 70% of his passes and was starting to be effective on the ground. Kid better learn how to carry a football.....
 
Yes you can. Experience and leadership count for a lot at the QB position. Pindell looked like the second coming of Donovan Williams' burned redshirt, and against a I-AA team. If he looks this bad against a lower division program, I shudder to think what's going to happen when you throw him out there against a real football team like USF.
Not for nothing, but Shirreffs looked pretty terrible for the majority of the game last year against FCS Maine.

Again I think BS should get the start because he has the hot hand, but I'm absolutely not writing off Pindell. The staff named Pindell the starter for a reason and if he doesn't start the USF game, I don't think it'll be long before we see him again.
 
Pindell was named the starting qb. Pindell starts next week.

Seems everybody is forgetting that Pindell engineered a very nice 1st quarter drive. He can get the job done. This is Lashlee's job as OC to have both Pindell and Sheriffs ready. This was only the first game after seasons of stupidity. Still much to work on on both sides of the ball.
 
He clearly has a running gear BS doesn't have but BS got it done.

Yes, but it doesn't matter when you spend all your time trying to shake defenders and not actually using that speed.

I think Pindell will end up back as the starter eventually. I don't think it's a good idea to throw him back in against a USF defense that is likely to knock him around a bit. I worry about his confidence long-term if you throw him back out there next week and end up having to pull him again if/when it doesn't go well.
 
Kid better learn how to carry a football.....

Yup.

At this point, I'm ok with either guy vs. USF. But, we need to settle on one of them. I hate not having a clear starter.

The one good thing I'm certain, whoever is the backup will become the most loved player on the team.
 
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