Slightly OT: UNLV Starting QB quits after 3 games, plans to transfer for more NIL money (Merged)

[WhereistheDove?]

The kid's explanation is suspect, at best. There's no signed contract. And there's apparently no other proof of this supposed offer from the assistant coach - only the kid's word (and the word of his representative).

On top of that, he went on to play 3 games for them before deciding to walk away. And not just any 3 games -- 3 games in which he and the team were incredibly successful.

It's more likely to me that he played the 3 games (the maximum he could play before giving up the chance to redshirt) and turned some heads - and then got thinking that either UNLV should pay up or that he'd find more money elsewhere.

If you don't have a signed agreement, then you don't have a guaranteed NIL package. And if there wasn't a signed agreement, you'd think he'd at least have e-mails or texts that indicated such a promise was being made. There doesn't appear to be any of that.

I'm not buying it.

I find it highly unlikely that in the world of NIL, UNLV only promised their starting QB a total package of a $3K relocation stipend. There is enough reporting about a lot of this NIL not coming through that I tend to believe the kid.

 

[superjohn]

If you start a job and they tell you your salary and then you get your first paycheck and it's lower than what they said it would be, quitting that job wouldn't be "quitting on your teammates"

There's not enough proof on either side to apply any morality.

When you start a job you sign a contract. This protects the employee and the employer.

 

[JMick]

When you start a job you sign a contract. This protects the employee and the employer.

There are jobs out there that bait and switch people on salary all the time

 

[Vowelguy]

Sounds like you never played football.

Oh please.

It's a business now.

 

[Kolumbo]

When you start a job you sign a contract. This protects the employee and the employer.

I've had many jobs as an employee and never a contract.

I think people are giving these kids way too much credit and responsibility. We read about this sheet every day and we still don't understand all the pieces. You have kids going to school and playing football and suddenly have their first and only experience with NIL and the transfer portal. I put Zero blame on the kid. There should be many adults in the room when a kid transfers explaining all the details of how it works. He supposedly went from thinking he was going to be paid $100k to actually getting paid $3k - $12k. He has one year of college eligibility left. Blame on both sides but if someone did in fact promise $100k, then the University is mostly at fault here.

 

[Vowelguy]

When you start a job you sign a contract.

Not for most jobs, no. You are an employee-at-will, and companies can do almost anything they want so long as it's not illegal.

 

[JMick]

Not for most jobs, no. You are an employee-at-will, and companies can do almost anything they want so long as it's not illegal.

Yeah you can start a job that pays $250,000/yr and then next pay period they can go "sorry, your new rate is $80,000" and it's not illegal.

 

[Purple Stein]

Employee of the University: Football player, I will give you $100,000.
Football Player, Upon Not Being Paid: You have not paid me. Pay me or I quit.
Other Employee of University: We do not respond to threats!

What a joke.

 

[Chin Diesel]

I've had many jobs as an employee and never a contract.

I think people are giving these kids way too much credit and responsibility. We read about this sheet every day and we still don't understand all the pieces. You have kids going to school and playing football and suddenly have their first and only experience with NIL and the transfer portal. I put Zero blame on the kid. There should be many adults in the room when a kid transfers explaining all the details of how it works. He supposedly went from thinking he was going to be paid $100k to actually getting paid $3k - $12k. He has one year of college eligibility left. Blame on both sides but if someone did in fact promise $100k, then the University is mostly at fault here.

The student-athletes were literally the ones who sued to put themselves into this position.

Nothing prevented Sluka from having any representation.

Welcome to the real world for these college kids.

 

[Connecticut13]

I've had many jobs as an employee and never a contract.

I think people are giving these kids way too much credit and responsibility. We read about this sheet every day and we still don't understand all the pieces. You have kids going to school and playing football and suddenly have their first and only experience with NIL and the transfer portal. I put Zero blame on the kid. There should be many adults in the room when a kid transfers explaining all the details of how it works. He supposedly went from thinking he was going to be paid $100k to actually getting paid $3k - $12k. He has one year of college eligibility left. Blame on both sides but if someone did in fact promise $100k, then the University is mostly at fault here.

He had NIL representation. If his representative really proceeded without a signed contract, then they shouldn't be in this business.

 

[huskymedic]

Gonna be a 30for30 @ this rate:

 

[Kolumbo]

The student-athletes were literally the ones who sued to put themselves into this position.

Nothing prevented Sluka from having any representation.

Welcome to the real world for these college kids.

I still place Zero blame on the kid. This will hurt UNLV far more than it hurts Sluka.

 

[Dooooooomed]

What a wild week this has been....and it's only Wednesday!

 

[superjohn]

The student-athletes were literally the ones who sued to put themselves into this position.

Nothing prevented Sluka from having any representation.

Welcome to the real world for these college kids.

Of course players, coaches, boosters, agents etc. are going to screw each other over. This is what we've signed up for.

I have zero sympathy for any of them.

 

[superjohn]

There are jobs out there that bait and switch people on salary all the time

Then don't whine about any money you were "promised."

 

[JMick]

Then don't whine about any money you were "promised."

You wouldn't be mad if you started a job and signed a pay agreement and then the next month they lowered your rate? Because that's not illegal and it happens

 

[Scoe]

The sport of football has become so watered down and become soft. Kids want everything handed to them without having to earn anything. Society has failed these kids. He better have a good story.

 

[Scoe]

You wouldn't be mad if you started a job and signed a pay agreement and then the next month they lowered your rate? Because that's not illegal and it happens

We don't know the real story yet, if that's true about UNLV making a promise and not following through then really messed up on their end. I guess you shouldn't take anyone at their word, can't trust anyone.

 

[superjohn]

You wouldn't be mad if you started a job and signed a pay agreement and then the next month they lowered your rate? Because that's not illegal and it happens

I wouldn't agree to a job if someone who can't pay me "promised" me I'll get x amount.

 

[Scoe]

There's just so many better ways to go about this then quitting on the season. Why don't you make a stand, document the verbal agreement and get the general public on your side in today's day and age of social media.

 

[Kolumbo]

I wouldn't agree to a job if someone who can't pay me "promised" me I'll get x amount.

Come on. He's probably 22 and they allegedly told him he'd get $100k while other college QB's are probably getting $1 million. How is he supposed to know they couldn't or wouldn't pay him. He is playing for one year and I'm sure not getting paid was the furthest from his mind. You act like college kids have 20 years of working experience and know what to expect.

 

[Scoe]

Come on. He's probably 22 and they allegedly told him he'd get $100k while other college QB's are probably getting $1 million. How is he supposed to know they couldn't or wouldn't pay him. He is playing for one year and I'm sure not getting paid was the furthest from his mind. You act like college kids have 20 years of working experience and know what to expect.

Fight go viral with it and I guarantee he gets the money he was was promised, if that story is true btw. He didn't fight for his cause he quit.

 

[metsfan2323]

I have no idea what their NIL looks like, how it works or if anyone told him he would receive money he didn't receive.

What we do know is he quit on his teammates in the middle of a surprising undefeated season. It also sounds like he never signed any contract to get this money his agent thinks the player was owed.

and no contract means he is free to leave whenever he wants to. UNLV should have put a ring on it, the kid was producing. I bet Fagnano is getting much more than 3K, I bet all of our QB's are. The market rate for a D1 starting QB is probably well over 100K and he will now get paid next year by another school. The kid did what was right for his bank account, good for him.

 

[superjohn]

Come on. He's probably 22 and they allegedly told him he'd get $100k while other college QB's are probably getting $1 million. How is he supposed to know they couldn't or wouldn't pay him. He is playing for one year and I'm sure not getting paid was the furthest from his mind. You act like college kids have 20 years of working experience and know what to expect.

This is what the student-athletes wanted, to be treated like professionals. Sorry, can't have it both ways.

If you want to get big boy money and are hiring representation don't act like a child. What is the point of having an agent if your agent doesn't do the most basic thing for your best interest?

As I said, he's free to do what he wants and people are free to criticize him for quitting on his teammates.

 

[metsfan2323]

Gonna be a 30for30 @ this rate:

Sounds like Sluka's teammates are taking his side. Maybe the guy running the UNLV NIL collective gambled it all away.