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DavidinNaples said:
JS.....agree completely...would add that IMO not every student at Duke or Stanford gets the same "rarified" education..in fact, Duke offers an Art History major....my daughter goes to Univ. of South Florida (USF), is in the Honors College, has had fabulous professors, Econ and Public Admin. double major w/ minor in business, probably will get a masters, 4.0 gpa... (my apologies for being such a proud dad)...my point is she turned down Ivy League to stay closer to home and still getting a superior education from a "lower ranked" school....
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Dave,

I agree you can get a great education anywhere. I went to an Ivy League school undergraduate, and post graduate school at UConn. My kids both went to UConn after being homeschooled (skipping grammar and high school) and my son graduated in the Honors program, and then went to UConn Law where he is entering his third year. My daughter is entering her senior year at Uconn, and wants an MFA in writing, preferably from Iowa. Both my kids went to Community College at a very young age (10 and 11) and eventually got their Associates Degrees, transferring to UConn as juniors. Because of their age, I often took courses with them at Community College, and I discovered that the quality of instruction there was better than I remember from my Ivy Alma Mater (I am particularly thinking of calculus. Although when I took that as an undergraduate we were still using slide rules and log tables.) You can get an excellent education anywhere, public or private colleges or even community colleges. The trouble with some of the "better" universities is that they have the top professors, but they may or may not be the top teachers. The skills for being a top researcher aren't the same for a top teacher.
 
Ironically, as I read this lengthy and informative thread, there is an ad on this very page that informs me that I can earn my doctoral degree online from Grand Canyon University.

I have resisted tossing any details about GCU into this discussion since I seriously doubt they have a wcbb team, er, program. And I wish Sierra would make up her mind so we can focus on that Durr girl.
 
If a University education is about course material only, get a book and stay home.
 
Kibitzer said:
Ironically, as I read this lengthy and informative thread, there is an ad on this very page that informs me that I can earn my doctoral degree online from Grand Canyon University.

I have resisted tossing any details about GCU into this discussion since I seriously doubt they have a wcbb team, er, program. And I wish Sierra would make up her mind so we can focus on that Durr girl.
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I think GCU just became a D1 school this year. Local girl from OC will be a freshman there in the fall. She played against KML as a frosh/soph, when KML was at MD.
 
triaddukefan said:
Well to get this thread back on track a bit.... If Ms Calhoun... or any other highly rated player wants to combine excellent academics, excellent basketball, excellent weather... and most importantly EXCELLENT EATING .. there is only one choice ;)

http://www.southernliving.com/travel/tastiest-town-durham-north-carolina-00417000082305/
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Well played, Triadduke....

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ericsandiego said:
In 2009 they went out in the first round. the following year the sweet 16. since then they have not made it past the elite 8. you may be right about PSU and Cal, altho at least Cal made it to a final 4. But there are still 8-9 other programs that have more success in the past 5 years than Tennessee.
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Damn you for making me defend Tenn.

Cal also didn't even make the field in 2 of the past 5 years. Nor did Penn St. And Ky & MD missed one.

Last 5 years
( 1) UConn -- 3 NC, 5 F4, 5 S16, 26-2 NCAA Record
( 2) Baylr -- 1 NC, 2 F4, 5 S16, 17-4
( 3) Stanf -- 0 NC, 4 F4, 5 S16, 19-5
( 4) NDame -- 0 NC, 3 F4, 4 S16, 16-5
( 5) TAMU_ -- 1 NC, 1 F4, 3 S16, 12-4
( 6) Louis -- 0 NC, 2 F4, 3 S16, 13-4 (1 miss)
( 7) Oklah -- 0 NC, 2 F4, 4 S16, 13-5
( 8) Duke_ -- 0 NC, 0 F4, 4 S16, 13-5
( 9) Tenne -- 0 NC, 0 F4, 4 S16, 11-5
(10) Kntky -- 0 NC, 0 F4, 3 S16, 10-4 (1 miss)
(11) Calif -- 0 NC, 1 F4, 3 S16, 8-3 (2 miss)
(12) Mryld -- 0 NC, 0 F4, 3 S16, 9-4 (1 miss)
(13) Grgia -- 0 NC, 0 F4, 3 S16, 7-5
 
vowelguy said:
Damn you for making me defend Tenn.

Cal also didn't even make the field in 2 of the past 5 years. Nor did Penn St. And Ky & MD missed one.

Last 5 years
( 1) UConn -- 3 NC, 5 F4, 5 S16, 26-2 NCAA Record
( 2) Baylr -- 1 NC, 2 F4, 5 S16, 17-4
( 3) Stanf -- 0 NC, 4 F4, 5 S16, 19-5
( 4) NDame -- 0 NC, 3 F4, 4 S16, 16-5
( 5) TAMU_ -- 1 NC, 1 F4, 3 S16, 12-4
( 6) Louis -- 0 NC, 2 F4, 3 S16, 13-4 (1 miss)
( 7) Oklah -- 0 NC, 2 F4, 4 S16, 13-5
( 8) Duke_ -- 0 NC, 0 F4, 4 S16, 13-5
( 9) Tenne -- 0 NC, 0 F4, 4 S16, 11-5
(10) Kntky -- 0 NC, 0 F4, 3 S16, 10-4 (1 miss)
(11) Calif -- 0 NC, 1 F4, 3 S16, 8-3 (2 miss)
(12) Mryld -- 0 NC, 0 F4, 3 S16, 9-4 (1 miss)
(13) Grgia -- 0 NC, 0 F4, 3 S16, 7-5
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Well done vowel. However we all know here on the Boneyard, facts don't mean much when someone has a point or agenda. :rolleyes:
 
vowelguy said:
Damn you for making me defend Tenn.

Cal also didn't even make the field in 2 of the past 5 years. Nor did Penn St. And Ky & MD missed one.

Last 5 years
( 1) UConn -- 3 NC, 5 F4, 5 S16, 26-2 NCAA Record
( 2) Baylr -- 1 NC, 2 F4, 5 S16, 17-4
( 3) Stanf -- 0 NC, 4 F4, 5 S16, 19-5
( 4) NDame -- 0 NC, 3 F4, 4 S16, 16-5
( 5) TAMU_ -- 1 NC, 1 F4, 3 S16, 12-4
( 6) Louis -- 0 NC, 2 F4, 3 S16, 13-4 (1 miss)
( 7) Oklah -- 0 NC, 2 F4, 4 S16, 13-5
( 8) Duke_ -- 0 NC, 0 F4, 4 S16, 13-5
( 9) Tenne -- 0 NC, 0 F4, 4 S16, 11-5
(10) Kntky -- 0 NC, 0 F4, 3 S16, 10-4 (1 miss)
(11) Calif -- 0 NC, 1 F4, 3 S16, 8-3 (2 miss)
(12) Mryld -- 0 NC, 0 F4, 3 S16, 9-4 (1 miss)
(13) Grgia -- 0 NC, 0 F4, 3 S16, 7-5
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Heh heh heh......Tennessee is ninth.
 
triaddukefan said:
Well to get this thread back on track a bit.... If Ms Calhoun... or any other highly rated player wants to combine excellent academics, excellent basketball, excellent weather... and most importantly EXCELLENT EATING .. there is only one choice ;)
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You were very persuasive until you got to mentioning EXCELLENT EATING. This young lady is from Brooklyn and the moment you plop down a mess of grits on her plate she'll do a beeline for the nearest NYC-style deli.
 
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vowelguy said:
Damn you for making me defend Tenn.

Cal also didn't even make the field in 2 of the past 5 years. Nor did Penn St. And Ky & MD missed one.

Last 5 years
( 1) UConn -- 3 NC, 5 F4, 5 S16, 26-2 NCAA Record
( 2) Baylr -- 1 NC, 2 F4, 5 S16, 17-4
( 3) Stanf -- 0 NC, 4 F4, 5 S16, 19-5
( 4) NDame -- 0 NC, 3 F4, 4 S16, 16-5
( 5) TAMU_ -- 1 NC, 1 F4, 3 S16, 12-4
( 6) Louis -- 0 NC, 2 F4, 3 S16, 13-4 (1 miss)
( 7) Oklah -- 0 NC, 2 F4, 4 S16, 13-5
( 8) Duke_ -- 0 NC, 0 F4, 4 S16, 13-5
( 9) Tenne -- 0 NC, 0 F4, 4 S16, 11-5
(10) Kntky -- 0 NC, 0 F4, 3 S16, 10-4 (1 miss)
(11) Calif -- 0 NC, 1 F4, 3 S16, 8-3 (2 miss)
(12) Mryld -- 0 NC, 0 F4, 3 S16, 9-4 (1 miss)
(13) Grgia -- 0 NC, 0 F4, 3 S16, 7-5
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So after all of that, the conclusion is that there were 8 schools better than Tennessee over the past 5 years instead of 9-10. Hardly seems worth arguing about, or that you needed to "defend" Tennessee. Sounds like the original comment was pretty much spot on, with the exception of Oklahoma in the top 8 and Maryland not.
 
UCONNfan1 said:
So after all of that, the conclusion is that there were 8 schools better than Tennessee over the past 5 years instead of 9-10. Hardly seems worth arguing about, or that you needed to "defend" Tennessee. Sounds like the original comment was pretty much spot on, with the exception of Oklahoma in the top 8 and Maryland not.
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Unless HuskyNan has changed her handle to "UConnfan1", I believe I'm free to decide which posts I do and don't respond to.
 
vowelguy said:
Unless HuskyNan has changed her handle to "UConnfan1", I believe I'm free to decide which posts I do and don't respond to.
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Aww... Come on... You were whining about having to defend Tennessee (probably tongue-in-cheek?). Given that comments were made that there were "9-10" teams better over the past 5 years and you came up with "only 8", it hardly seemed worth "defending" them. Didn't mean to imply what you "should or should not" be posting - sorry if it sounded that way!!!

Is this board always this defensive and crazy? LOL! ;)
 
UCONNfan1 said:
Aww... Come on... You were whining about having to defend Tennessee (probably tongue-in-cheek?). Given that comments were made that there were "9-10" teams better over the past 5 years and you came up with "only 8", it hardly seemed worth "defending" them. Didn't mean to imply what you "should or should not" be posting - sorry if it sounded that way!!!

Is this board always this defensive and crazy? LOL! ;)
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Actually, I said that 8-9 teams have been better than Tennessee in the past 5 years, and turns out it's 8. So no idea what Vowel was defending!
 
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ericsandiego said:
Actually, I said that 8-9 teams have been better than Tennessee in the past 5 years, and turns out it's 8. So no idea what Vowel was defending!
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But he did come up with a nice list.
 
meyers7 said:
Yea, haven't figured out how to line up columns like that on here.
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Use Courier font. And don't put 2 spaces in a row - gotta use some character ( eg, underscore) to make each entry the Same length across rows.
 
On the table,
Note that its only measuring NCAA performance. While by far the most important, seems like the regular season should count for something. Tho Baylor lost in the sweet 16, I'd still say thy had a better season than Georgia, which lost in the elite 8.

And peaking of Georgia, I was a bit surprised to see them at #13 given how much abuse Landers gets.
 
Would you be willing to make a chart for the last 10 years? It would be interesting to see the differences. One I suspect Tenn would be ranked 2nd. However I'm more interested to see which teams dropped out from the current list. That would indicates teams on the rise and the added teams to the list would show teams that are on the decline. Teams that make both list would be the most consistent team during the 10 years. Thanks

vowelguy said:
Damn you for making me defend Tenn.

Cal also didn't even make the field in 2 of the past 5 years. Nor did Penn St. And Ky & MD missed one.

Last 5 years
( 1) UConn -- 3 NC, 5 F4, 5 S16, 26-2 NCAA Record
( 2) Baylr -- 1 NC, 2 F4, 5 S16, 17-4
( 3) Stanf -- 0 NC, 4 F4, 5 S16, 19-5
( 4) NDame -- 0 NC, 3 F4, 4 S16, 16-5
( 5) TAMU_ -- 1 NC, 1 F4, 3 S16, 12-4
( 6) Louis -- 0 NC, 2 F4, 3 S16, 13-4 (1 miss)
( 7) Oklah -- 0 NC, 2 F4, 4 S16, 13-5
( 8) Duke_ -- 0 NC, 0 F4, 4 S16, 13-5
( 9) Tenne -- 0 NC, 0 F4, 4 S16, 11-5
(10) Kntky -- 0 NC, 0 F4, 3 S16, 10-4 (1 miss)
(11) Calif -- 0 NC, 1 F4, 3 S16, 8-3 (2 miss)
(12) Mryld -- 0 NC, 0 F4, 3 S16, 9-4 (1 miss)
(13) Grgia -- 0 NC, 0 F4, 3 S16, 7-5
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vowelguy said:
Use Courier font. And don't put 2 spaces in a row - gotta use some character ( eg, underscore) to make each entry the Same length across rows.
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I'll give it a try next time I come up with something.....if I can remember that long. ;)
 
vowelguy said:
Damn you for making me defend Tenn.

Cal also didn't even make the field in 2 of the past 5 years. Nor did Penn St. And Ky & MD missed one.

Last 5 years
( 1) UConn -- 3 NC, 5 F4, 5 S16, 26-2 NCAA Record
( 2) Baylr -- 1 NC, 2 F4, 5 S16, 17-4
( 3) Stanf -- 0 NC, 4 F4, 5 S16, 19-5
( 4) NDame -- 0 NC, 3 F4, 4 S16, 16-5
( 5) TAMU_ -- 1 NC, 1 F4, 3 S16, 12-4
( 6) Louis -- 0 NC, 2 F4, 3 S16, 13-4 (1 miss)
( 7) Oklah -- 0 NC, 2 F4, 4 S16, 13-5
( 8) Duke_ -- 0 NC, 0 F4, 4 S16, 13-5
( 9) Tenne -- 0 NC, 0 F4, 4 S16, 11-5
(10) Kntky -- 0 NC, 0 F4, 3 S16, 10-4 (1 miss)
(11) Calif -- 0 NC, 1 F4, 3 S16, 8-3 (2 miss)
(12) Mryld -- 0 NC, 0 F4, 3 S16, 9-4 (1 miss)
(13) Grgia -- 0 NC, 0 F4, 3 S16, 7-5
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Nice work.

A simple stat I like when measuring performance-over-time in win-or-go-home competitions is number of games played compared to maximum possible games that could be played. Over the last five years, for example, a team could have a maximum of 30 games had they made it to the championship game each year. UConn played 28 games or 93.3% of the possible games in which they could have participated. By counting the number of games participated in you indirectly, albeit imprecisely, include an approximation of winning percentages. For example, if a team wins four of the five tournaments but misses the 5th entirely, they will have played 24 games or 80% of the possible games they could have played.

For the 13 teams in this study, the results are:

UConn 93%
Stanford 80%
Baylor 70%
Notre Dame 70%
Oklahoma 60%
Duke 60%
Louisville 57%
Texas A&M 53%
Tennessee 53%
Kentucky 47%
Maryland 43%
Georgia 40%
California 37%
 
jplotinus said:
No, let the presses run, Ozzie. You are badly missing the point and what was posted was not obvious by any means.

Let me put this a little more plainly, so that it can be more readily understood by all.

Elite athletes, even as adults, let alone as teenagers, have a heck of a lot of difficulty in grasping the temporary nature of their athletic gifts.

Making plans for post athletic life does not come easy. As you may know the vast majority of retired professional bb players are broke, busted and bankrupt within 5 years after retirement, no matter how much money they may have made.
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Yeah...It's surprising what can happen even with a college degree....oh wait.......
 
I will tell you right now if I'm a guessing man playtime is a big issue for Sierra. In college I would expect her to play the wing. With a short roster Sierra will see a lot of playtime at UConn. With a roster on another team of 12+ her playtime just might be limited.
The advantages to playing at UConn over her other choices. Every game is televised so her family can watch her, tape her and watch her again. UConn is close to NY so her family can travel by car to attend her games. Her brother is already here. UConn is built to be in the Final 4 and win more National Championships over the next 3 years. If she dosnt choose UConn I would be very surprised.
 
Tonyc said:
With a short roster Sierra will see a lot of playtime at UConn. With a roster on another team of 12+ her playtime just might be limited.
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With Calhoun and Wilson, (please???) UCONN would be at 12. If Westbeld or Belton were added in, we would be at 13. So hopefully UCONN is not going to have a short roster when/if Calhoun is here.
 
I have a feeling they're all waiting for Wilson to say yes to UConn. Just a huncth no inside info.
 
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