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Charliebball said:
problematic in the sense that UConn has failed to successfully recruit a quality big forward for a while now...
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So? They've consistently been in final fours and have had 2 seasons in which they were undefeated in which they lost in the last seconds, and this past year it is arguable but if Stevens stayed . . .

How "problematic" has it been and how "problematic" is it? UCONN will be top 4 this year too, won't they?
 
oldude said:
Prince will get a medical redshirt for her freshman year, regardless of whether or not it occurs next year or the year after. She will either have 5 or 6 years to complete 4 years of eligibility, if she chooses to stay in college that long.
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I believe she’d have to petition the NCAA for a 6th year of eligibility, but I think those are pretty routinely granted in these circumstances. See Ali Patberg of Indiana.
 
Maybe too abstract? ;)

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Plebe said:
I believe she’d have to petition the NCAA for a 6th year of eligibility, but I think those are pretty routinely granted in these circumstances. See Ali Patberg of Indiana.
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Yes, that was my assumption.
 
hoophuskee said:
So? They've consistently been in final fours and have had 2 seasons in which they were undefeated in which they lost in the last seconds, and this past year it is arguable but if Stevens stayed . . .

How "problematic" has it been and how "problematic" is it? UCONN will be top 4 this year too, won't they?
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I simply have no idea if UConn will finish in the final four this coming season...................they certainly have that potential but so much depends on the growth of the underclass women and the ability of EA, AM and AG to make a meaningful contribution (not counting on the NCAA giving Westbrook getting a free pass for this year)..................UConn had a "pretty good" rebounding forward in NC the past four years but who's taking her spot going forward? I'm really talking about the past couple of recruiting classes leading up to the 2020 class where it's very possible UConn gets shut out again in the search for another big body...................2021 is looking pretty positive but who knows...............
 
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Charliebball said:
I simply have no idea if UConn will finish in the final four this coming season....they certainly have that potential but so much depends on the growth of the underclass women and the ability of EA, AM and AG to make a meaningful contribution (not counting on the NCAA giving Westbrook getting a free pass for this year)...UConn had a "pretty good" rebounding forward in NC the past four years but who's taking her spot going forward? I'm really talking about the past couple of recruiting classes leading up to the 2020 class where it's very possible UConn gets shut out again in the search for another big body....2021 is looking pretty positive but who knows.....
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Who are you talking about? Tuck? Collier?
 
Tonyc said:
Prince going to Oregon sends what message to all the other bigs on the Oregon roster?????????????
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It says they better learn to love the bench as much as Giomi does already :)
 
hoophuskee said:
But she wasn't the pf last year and they got to the final four. Walker was. That's my point. How "problematic" can things be when you are a final four caliber team?
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Anywhere else, that is not problematic. Here, things are kinda problematic if the season doesn’t end in an NC:rolleyes:
 
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Tonyc said:
Prince going to Oregon sends what message to all the other bigs on the Oregon roster?????????????
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It’s called positional competition. It says play your butt off and earn your spot. And that includes Prince. She hasn’t proved anything at the college level yet. As the biggest kid on the floor when she got hurt, she wasn’t exactly dominating the very average at best opposition there.
 
Carnac said:
With the anticipated "sophomore leap" we expect her to make, and the recent additions, I agree. I'd like to read more "positive" posts from UConn fans commenting on the potential of ONO, and the things she CAN do; instead of the things they think she can't do. Thank goodness for ONO. What would UConn's immediate future look like without her? As long as she stays healthy, we'll be fine.
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IMO ONO can become the greatest defensive player in UCONN history. Her athleticism is off the charts. She has the potential to negate the inside play of all teams her athleticism is that terrific.

Her athleticism will allow the team to play small if they need to or want to. In addition she allows the UCONN defense to be more aggressive.

Each year offensively she'll improve - and with the outstanding guard play UCONN has - she will be an impact in big games even if she isn't going to score a lot. Incredible potential to become a good scorer with amazing defense -- that's future 1st team a/a caliber potential.
 
Sluconn Husky said:
“I’ll be pushing for that waiver," she said in a phone interview. "I’ve heard from a few people that there’s a good chance that I’ll get it. They know the full story and know what’s been going on... If I do get that waiver, watch out, national championship here we come."


247sports.com

Sedona Prince "pushing" to play immediately at Oregon

Sedona Prince "pushing" to play immediately at Oregon
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From that article

“For me, my medical was what wrong at Texas. I was trying to find a place where I felt comfortable and can live for the next four years and be and where my career and health will be the best...

I didn’t just break my leg, like I destroyed it," she explained. "I broke it bad. It took almost 11 months to heal it after two surgeries and a ton of intensive care."

But the healing is over, she says. She says her bones are "100-percent" healed and that the pain has gone too.

Sure sounds to me like UT treats her injury well if she has recovered 100% from a very bad injury that destroyed her leg. It can't be that wrong at Texas, medical wise.
 
BroadwayVa said:
I don't know much about Cardoso but I'm fairly familiar with the group coaching at Uconn. Should she come aboard this jet stream to the NC she will be coached in the finer points and more rugged points of being an exceptional post. I refer you to Tina Charles as a Freshman/Soph. CD and staff were doing their magic and look at her now. If Cardoso is the least bit energized to play post--that crew will make it happen. Stef was a project, Jessica Moore, was a project---need I say more??
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You're right about how those players developed, especially Dolson, and when Calhoun went to watch Rod Sellers he had 0 points and 0 rebounds and turned out well for us. That could be Cardoso too but do we know for certain Geno and staff are pursuing her?
 
hoophuskee said:
IMO ONO can become the greatest defensive player in UCONN history. Her athleticism is off the charts. She has the potential to negate the inside play of all teams her athleticism is that terrific.

Her athleticism will allow the team to play small if they need to or want to. In addition she allows the UCONN defense to be more aggressive.

Each year offensively she'll improve - and with the outstanding guard play UCONN has - she will be an impact in big games even if she isn't going to score a lot. Incredible potential to become a good scorer with amazing defense -- that's future 1st team a/a caliber potential.
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Personally, I follow Geno's thoughts on freshmen. He has said many times that it takes the average freshman 1 year to learn the the system and the offensive and defensive sets and position assignments and responsibilities. That's why for the most part, I give freshmen a pass their first year. Few of them can come in an make an immediate impact on the team's performance.

I remember what Dangerfield said 3 weeks into the start of official practice. She said: "NOTHING I did in high school or AAU prepared me for what I'm dealing with right now." Freshmen enter a new arena, with new teamates, that are all older than they are, not to mention being bigger, stronget and faster. Freshmen have to play catch up.

What ever we get form them is gravy. Once in a while one will come in and perform above expectations. Regardless, they're going to make freshmen mistakes they won't make in succeeding years because of their growth and experience. Juniors and seniors simply don't make "freshmen" mistakes. I expect ONO to play like the sophomore she will be.

ONO is a very intelligent young lady who (I believe) wants to be a physician. She has the desire, the platform and the coaching to be very good/great. I saw some things I liked last year from her. I expect to see more this year because the training wheels will be off.

Regardless who the 5th starter is, Geno is going to put a very formidable team on the floor this year. As Christyn Williams said: “People are going to feel UConn."
 
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pvdoggy said:
From that article

“For me, my medical was what wrong at Texas. I was trying to find a place where I felt comfortable and can live for the next four years and be and where my career and health will be the best...

I didn’t just break my leg, like I destroyed it," she explained. "I broke it bad. It took almost 11 months to heal it after two surgeries and a ton of intensive care."

But the healing is over, she says. She says her bones are "100-percent" healed and that the pain has gone too.

Sure sounds to me like UT treats her injury well if she has recovered 100% from a very bad injury that destroyed her leg. It can't be that wrong at Texas, medical wise.
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Whether or not she milks this to get a waiver we'll never know, but I dont think it's fair to make assumptions about it. There is a lot more that goes into her comfort with medical treatment than just the fact that her leg healed a year later. If she made similar statements after committing to UCONN, the majority here would be defending her instead of questioning it.
 
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hoophuskee said:
IMO ONO can become the greatest defensive player in UCONN history. Her athleticism is off the charts. She has the potential to negate the inside play of all teams her athleticism is that terrific.

Her athleticism will allow the team to play small if they need to or want to. In addition she allows the UCONN defense to be more aggressive.

Each year offensively she'll improve - and with the outstanding guard play UCONN has - she will be an impact in big games even if she isn't going to score a lot. Incredible potential to become a good scorer with amazing defense -- that's future 1st team a/a caliber potential.
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I agree that Liv has tremendous upside but people are forgetting some great former players. I would argue that Kiah Stokes was the best defensive post player at UConn. She blocked a million shots and her pro-ready frame was a lot stronger than ONO’s naturally slender build. Offensively, Liv will need to work hard to match Tina Charles.

Liv can be great at UConn and 1st team AA is there for her if she work for it but some of the posts I’ve seen about her capabilities are based more on wishes than reality right now.
 
hoophuskee said:
But she wasn't the pf last year and they got to the final four. Walker was. That's my point. How "problematic" can things be when you are a final four caliber team?
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NC was the team's most effective rebounder and shot blocker who also scored the vast majority of her points inside..........................the big question is who's taking up that slack with her gone? Hopefully ONO, MW and EA for next season but you know teams will be attacking ONO to get her in quick foul trouble and then where's the team's interior defensive presence? That lack of size may remain an issue perhaps only until 2021...........
 
bballnut90 said:
Whether or not she milks this to get a waiver we'll never know, but I dont think it's fair to make assumptions about it. There is a lot more that goes into her comfort with medical treatment than just the fact that her leg healed a year later. If she made similar statements after committing to UCONN, the majority here would be defending her instead of questioning it.
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If she had said this before her commitment, I would have said the same thing.
 
CocoHusky said:
:eek:Some UCONN WBB fans definition of "problematic" = Any season that does not result in a National Championship.
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not every year but one NC every four years seems about right........................ ;)
 
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hoophuskee said:
IMO ONO can become the greatest defensive player in UCONN history. Her athleticism is off the charts. She has the potential to negate the inside play of all teams her athleticism is that terrific.

Her athleticism will allow the team to play small if they need to or want to. In addition she allows the UCONN defense to be more aggressive.

Each year offensively she'll improve - and with the outstanding guard play UCONN has - she will be an impact in big games even if she isn't going to score a lot. Incredible potential to become a good scorer with amazing defense -- that's future 1st team a/a caliber potential.
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She had a great mentor in Pheesa, and if she runs the floor like Pheesa we'll be pretty good.
 
I was never keen on Prince coming here, though it has to do with our situation, not her personally/professionally. I would never express reservations about an active recruit or player, knowing that at least some of them read the Boneyard, but I have no problem expressing my reservations now.

First, as a general principle, I believe in chemistry over insurance for building long term success. Sure, if you do not recruit for insurance, then for any particular year an injury or unforeseen circumstance can wreck things. If ONO gets an injury this coming season, then not having another big like Prince might prevent us from even making the FF. However, that's just one season and it means little more than bad luck will occasionally bite us just as it does every program. But insuring against every possible stroke of bad luck, if done perpetually, perpetually will undermine chemistry. 4-5 insurance players on a roster every year will not escape that notice and the chemistry will not be as great, nor will the much needed repetitions for any particular nonstarter. I believe chemistry, not insuring against bad luck, contributes more to why Auriemma has built a dynasty.

That does not automatically mean that Prince would be bad for chemistry, but I think she would be through no fault of her own. If she is eligible immediately that creates a logjam with three seniors, one with more experience and success with college basketball, two with more experience with the UConn way. Considering Conlon could be made a starter on a championship team, none of those three's weaknesses are so glaring that they could not be groomed for success if given the repetitions a player like Conlon received. Having a freshman with a high ceiling but immediate question marks and inexperience would have been damaging to chemistry in the short term if she was immediately eligible, plus there is no guarantee she could add much if ONO remains healthy and gets 30+ minutes at center.

But what about the long term? That may have worked out, and the "bird in the hand" philosophy is a little different than the insurance philosophy, but in the best of all recruiting worlds I would take a genuine, talented rising freshman over Prince. What about the injury? What about leaving early? There are some other factors that concern me as well. I prefer someone like Cardosa being ONO's understudy rather than Prince. We could strike out again like we did with Boston, I suspect that was totally unexpected, but laws of average will work themselves out and Auriemma also proves to be an adaptable coach in recruiting. Hey! Bad things happen to good programs, but if you define success by any metric besides who won the last championship, we are still the most successful program in WCBB. Also, our current "downturn" is currently more successful than any of our other "downturns" in the past.
 
bluedevil said:
How will 2021 solve the lack of height issue?
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I have the same question, it looks like UConn will be going from 6’1 Walker, to 5’11 MacLean at the power forward spot.
 
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