SEC 2019-2020 discussion

[UConnCat]

They can afford to because they don’t play them during conference. UConn can’t really afford to because they play a few 200-300 caliber teams during conference play.

The issue really isn't whether they can "afford to;" it's why they choose to play these teams. What do you get out of a game in which you beat your opponent by 70 points?

Between coaching jobs with the Fever and Kentucky, Lin Dunn used to go on twitter rants about the MOV in some of UConn's non-conference games. The games Lin tweeted about were not against teams like South Carolina Upstate or Alabama State. These games were against P5 teams or good mid-majors. She would tweet about the importance of growing the game. We need a similar voice.

 

[Plebe]

The Central Arkansas team that Tennessee fans were *thrilled* to beat by 27 is now losing by 30 to Tulane in mid-4Q.

Maybe Tennessee should consider joining the AAC after UConn's departure. That way they'd have a chance to win a conference title again.

 

[Sluconn Husky]

They can afford to because they don’t play them during conference. UConn can’t really afford to because they play a few 200-300 caliber teams during conference play.

UConn does not play anyone at the level of those programs I mentioned previously unless it's during exhibition. It's too bad Sagarin is no longer covering the women's game or I'd show you how off that comparison is.

 

[Sluconn Husky]

The Central Arkansas team that Tennessee fans were *thrilled* to beat by 27 is now losing by 30 to Tulane in mid-4Q.

I have been informed that teams like Central Arkansas and Tulane are comparable. Thus, UConn playing Tulane is similar to a P5 playing Central Arkansas.

 

[Plebe]

I have been informed that teams like Central Arkansas and Tulane are comparable. Thus, UConn playing Tulane is similar to a P5 playing Central Arkansas.

Anyone who tries to deflect attention from their cupcake OOC scheduling by pointing the finger at UConn's conference gets an honorary dunce cap. A fallacious argument on multiple levels.

 

[DaBball]

UConn does not play anyone at the level of those programs I mentioned previously unless it's during exhibition. It's too bad Sagarin is no longer covering the women's game or I'd show you how off that comparison is.

Ole Miss was #239 last year and on UConn’s schedule. Not like Geno has never scheduled a team in the 200-300 range.

Wichita State was #257.

Memphis was #232.

SMU was #231.

Can’t think of many teams who don’t have a few 200-300 games on their schedule.

 

[UConnCat]

Ole Miss was #239 last year and on UConn’s schedule. Not like Geno has never scheduled a team in the 200-300 range.

Wichita State was #257.

Memphis was #232.

SMU was #231.

Geno did not schedule Ole Miss. The Rebels were part of a holiday tournament in St Thomas. No coach has any control over which teams play in those tournaments.

Geno has scheduled games against terrible teams in the past. Sometimes it was for recruiting and sometimes there was no good reason. The only thing that comes from games like that is a headache.

 

[Plebe]

Ole Miss was #239 last year and on UConn’s schedule. Not like Geno has never scheduled a team in the 200-300 range.

Wichita State was #257.

Memphis was #232.

SMU was #231.

Ole Miss wasn't selected by UConn either. That game was at the Paradise Jam.

 

[DaBball]

Aren’t like 3-4 of Geno’s non-conference games typically homecoming games? That doesn’t give a whole lot of flexibility either. Games like St. Louis, UALR, etc. Has Liv’s game been announced yet?

 

[Sluconn Husky]

Ole Miss was #239 last year and on UConn’s schedule. Not like Geno has never scheduled a team in the 200-300 range.

Wichita State was #257.

Memphis was #232.

SMU was #231.

Can’t think of many teams who don’t have a few 200-300 games on their schedule.

Don't know where you are getting those numbers from. Massey?

Sagarin's last list from two years ago had the worst AAC teams from 120-199. Some of the teams listed above were in the 260's to 320's. Those teams would be 12-20 point underdogs to the worst AAC teams base on his rating system.

 

[DefenseBB]

I was going to mention that Connecticut plays only great power house teams in the Big East Conference they are in. Oh wait, they aren’t in the Big East anymore are they? What conference do they play in?

Whatever conference they are in has the team that has won the most titles ever. So if my memory serves me correctly, the mighty SEC has had exactly One more team win a title EVER in WCBB than either the AAC teams or what teams the BigEast will have next year...and considering your pathetic OOC and less then stellar conference teams of note, let’s compare SoS when all is said and done, maybe the Bulldogs will be within 5 to 7 spots below the Huskies...

 

[sivad40]

Think you folks are also confusing teams a program has to play with those they intentionally schedule too.

UConn drops a couple of conference games in order to player better non-conference opponents. They also only play the dregs of the conference once a year. That's all by choice.

I didn't team had control to add or drop.their conference games. Someone should alert SEC football or ACC men's basketball teams about this.

 

[GoDawgs4]

Whatever conference they are in has the team that has won the most titles ever. So if my memory serves me correctly, the mighty SEC has had exactly One more team win a title EVER in WCBB than either the AAC teams or what teams the BigEast will have next year...and considering your pathetic OOC and less then stellar conference teams of note, let’s compare SoS when all is said and done, maybe the Bulldogs will be within 5 to 7 spots below the Huskies...

No need to get your panties in a wad. That was a tongue-in-cheek remark meant in fun as I clarified afterwards. Much respect for the Connecticut women’s program. All this will sort itself out during the season and in March.

 

[UConnCat]

No I am a State alum/fan and that remark was tongue in cheek. I well know your issues with the conference situation. I was just poking some fun at you all. I do agree that our non-conference schedule is weak this year. As has been mentioned previously, we have had a hard time (particularly on the Men’s side) getting OOC teams to play home and home against us in basketball because some teams want to play us in Starkvegas. They will claim it is hard to get there (it is really not though as a commercial airport is 18 miles from campus). But regardless our SEC schedule is pretty difficult this season so we will see how good we are come January/February.

I know. I was just poking a little fun back at you.

 

[Gamecockfan77]

I had the impression that South Carolina wasn't shooting particularly well from the perimeter, but the numbers actually are pretty good after the team's good shooting vs Clemson.

Team is shooting 41% overall from three.

Harris 6/14 43%
Cooke 9/23 39%
Henderson 11/20 55%
Beal 4/11 36%

Would like to see Harris and Cooke improve their two point FG %.

With Cooke could be a matter of better shot selection. Have to see how that goes as season continues on.

 

[militarydog]

I had the impression that South Carolina wasn't shooting particularly well from the perimeter, but the numbers actually are pretty good after the team's good shooting vs Clemson.

Team is shooting 41% overall from three.

Harris 6/14 43%
Cooke 9/23 39%
Henderson 11/20 55%
Beal 4/11 36%

Would like to see Harris and Cooke improve their two point FG %.

With Cooke could be a matter of better shot selection. Have to see how that goes as season continues on.

Is Cooke being groomed to be the point guard of the future or do you see her as more of a combo that is not the primary ball handler or even shooting guard?

 

[Jmsdawg]

I had the impression that South Carolina wasn't shooting particularly well from the perimeter, but the numbers actually are pretty good after the team's good shooting vs Clemson.

Team is shooting 41% overall from three.

Harris 6/14 43%
Cooke 9/23 39%
Henderson 11/20 55%
Beal 4/11 36%

Would like to see Harris and Cooke improve their two point FG %.

With Cooke could be a matter of better shot selection. Have to see how that goes as season continues on.

To me, South Carolina has been the biggest surprise. I thought they would be good but now I think they could be national championship caliber. I think they will give Baylor and UConn a scare, in fact I predict they will win both those games.

 

[cockhrnleghrn]

Is Cooke being groomed to be the point guard of the future or do you see her as more of a combo that is not the primary ball handler or even shooting guard?

Combo; I think Destanni Henderson will start at the 1 next season, with Zia at the 2, Brea at the 3, Laeticia or Victaria at the 4 and Aliyah at the 5.

 

[cockhrnleghrn]

To me, South Carolina has been the biggest surprise. I thought they would be good but now I think they could be national championship caliber. I think they will give Baylor and UConn a scare, in fact I predict they will win both those games.

I didn't think the freshmen would be so good, so early. Dawn has been keeping their minutes mostly in the low 20's, except against Maryland, so hopefully they won't hit that freshman wall.

 

[JonathanXIV]

Ole Miss was #239 last year and on UConn’s schedule. Not like Geno has never scheduled a team in the 200-300 range.

Wichita State was #257.

Memphis was #232.

SMU was #231.

Can’t think of many teams who don’t have a few 200-300 games on their schedule.

Memphis and SMU are conference games. I believe the conversation is about OOC games which a team chooses to schedule.

 

[DallasBUFan]

To me, South Carolina has been the biggest surprise. I thought they would be good but now I think they could be national championship caliber. I think they will give Baylor and UConn a scare, in fact I predict they will win both those games.

Without Lauren Cox it looks possible.

 

[Gamecockfan77]

Is Cooke being groomed to be the point guard of the future or do you see her as more of a combo that is not the primary ball handler or even shooting guard?

That's a good question.

I'd guess that Henderson would be the primary point guard but that's just a guess.

 

[SCspur]

Both of them are considered point guards on the floor. Either of them can bring the ball up and initiate the offense or play the 2 guard slot.

 

[Sluconn Husky]

I didn't team had control to add or drop.their conference games. Someone should alert SEC football or ACC men's basketball teams about this.

UConn will be moving another conference game next year--their third--to replace it with a just-announced Louisville game.

 

[DaBball]

 

[militarydog]

I hate that for her and UM. Prayers for a full and speedy recovery.

 

[SECbbfan24]

Some rough luck for Ole Miss with this freshmen class.

Tai-yanna jackson was removed from the team preseason and now this.

They do have two 5 star players coming in next year. Long road ahead for ole miss. They just don’t have the players right now. Coach Yo seems to be selling something.

 

[Alydar]

Isn't most of your conference schedule made up of that type of competition?

Yup. Like that cupcake Temple. You know? Temple is that AAC nothing team that the Gamecocks absolutely slaughtered nipped 78-71 today.
What happened? Did dawn and the starting 5 get lost in Philadelphia?

 

[cockhrnleghrn]

Yup. Like that cupcake Temple. You know? Temple is that AAC nothing team that the Gamecocks absolutely slaughtered nipped 78-71 today.
What happened? Did dawn and the starting 5 get lost in Philadelphia?

A little snippy, eh? Should I bring up Seton Hall?

 

[eebmg]

A little snippy, eh? Should I bring up Seton Hall?

Yes. Please. Seton Hall is a positive in so many ways.

Regarding SC, I will not take a dig since every team will have less than optimal games during the season. I did not see the game but in looking at the Box Score and the tough shooting stats of the front court players, I am guessing Temple must have made a strong effort to clog the paint and the relatively Good 3pt shooting helped SC squeak by.