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RPI is the equivalent of using batting average for deciding who the best hitter is... its not a very good barometer when there are better stats out there that do a better job of analyzing.

RPI has MWC as #1 conference in basketball... Do you believe that ranking? Also the Big East has faltered in the tourney a bunch in past years... Does that discount their prowess as the best bball conference during those years?

(kenpom/BPI/RPI/Average)

MWC: New Mexico (25/9/2/12), UNLV (42/26/22/30), SDSU (36/27/29/31), CSU (30/28/23/27), Wyoming (123/82/79/95), Boise (59/44/44/49), Air Force (107/89/71/89), Fresno (111/120/129/120), Nevada (180/174/171/175)

Average of the averages: 70
Median: 49

AMC: Tulsa (183/158/139/160), Tulane (146/145/179/157), UCF (138/123/102/121), UConn (53/40/49/47), Cinci (40/35/50/42), Houston (174/171/197/181), ECU (126/136/105/122), Memphis (41/18/14/24), Temple (61/56/41/53), SMU (182/168/218/189), USF (143/135/151/143)

Average of the averages: 113
Median: 122

If you take out Memphis, UConn, Cinci, Temple the average is 153

Give me a break even trying to defend this basketball conference. Outside of the top 4 they are a joke.

In 2012 Florida Gulf Coast was #157 in Massey ratings and was 15-17. Not like teams can't get better quickly with one or two recruits and a good coaching hire. I remember when Uconn was a BE joke.
 
I'm impressed that the "Rodney Purvis Transferring" thread has managed to segue, based off of an offhand comment on another message board that hardly anyone reads, into an analysis of dumpster-fire programs' RPIs. That said, this thread is going off the rails.
 
Don't know if this has been mentioned but the MWC schedules division II programs because they do not count towards the RPI. So while real schools play the lower teams and have their RPI lowered, theirs isn't affected at all.
 
RPI is the equivalent of using batting average for deciding who the best hitter is... its not a very good barometer when there are better stats out there that do a better job of analyzing.

RPI has MWC as #1 conference in basketball... Do you believe that ranking? Also the Big East has faltered in the tourney a bunch in past years... Does that discount their prowess as the best bball conference during those years?

(kenpom/BPI/RPI/Average)

MWC: New Mexico (25/9/2/12), UNLV (42/26/22/30), SDSU (36/27/29/31), CSU (30/28/23/27), Wyoming (123/82/79/95), Boise (59/44/44/49), Air Force (107/89/71/89), Fresno (111/120/129/120), Nevada (180/174/171/175)

Average of the averages: 70
Median: 49

AMC: Tulsa (183/158/139/160), Tulane (146/145/179/157), UCF (138/123/102/121), UConn (53/40/49/47), Cinci (40/35/50/42), Houston (174/171/197/181), ECU (126/136/105/122), Memphis (41/18/14/24), Temple (61/56/41/53), SMU (182/168/218/189), USF (143/135/151/143)

Average of the averages: 113
Median: 122

If you take out Memphis, UConn, Cinci, Temple the average is 153

Give me a break even trying to defend this basketball conference. Outside of the top 4 they are a joke.
Ok so you don't like RPI. How about how many teams a league gets in the NCAA Tournament? The ACC has been fourth over the last 10 years. How about teams in the Sweet 16? The ACC is third over the past 10 years. Final Fours - 3rd. They are tied for the most championships, but depending on What Syracuse, Louisville does next weekend it could be a 3 way tie in that area. So once again how do you view the ACC as the best league. As far as next year Louisville will not be a member of the ACC and by the time they are you may not have UNC and a few other teams. Syracuse is a step up true, but Maryland will be gone and they have won a championship more recently then Pitt or Notre Dame. So I think the days of ACC being the dominant basketball conference are long gone, if they every truly existed.
 
Hume -

Is your reading comprehension poor?

I was referencing the future. When/if Purvis played for UConn it would be during the 2014-2015 season.

Lville, Cuse, ND, and Pitt will be in the ACC. ACC will be the best bball conference. Please tell me when I said ACC was the best bball conference today/right now.
 
Hume -

Is your reading comprehension poor?

I was referencing the future. When/if Purvis played for UConn it would be during the 2014-2015 season.

Lville, Cuse, ND, and Pitt will be in the ACC. ACC will be the best bball conference. Please tell me when I said ACC was the best bball conference today/right now.
My reading comprehension is fine. Your arguments are shifting how ever. Here is a direct quote from you. "Going from the best bball conference (ACC) to a mid major bball conference." No where did you say that they will be the best conference, which by the way is still open to debate. Furthermore when I sited RPI you defended the ACC as being the best by discounting RPI. Maybe if you at that point had said you meant you felt that in the future the ACC would be the best you might have a case. However, it seems your story is changing. Also I will repeat we are not sure what the ACC will look like when Louisville is in the league, as UNC may well be in the Big Ten. Syracuse may be on probation, and Notre Dame/Pittsburgh are good regular season teams that exit the NCAA tournaments consistently before many mid majors. So in 2 years the ACC may be the best conference, but right now they aren't, and there is no guarantee they will be.
 
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RPI is the equivalent of using batting average for deciding who the best hitter is... its not a very good barometer when there are better stats out there that do a better job of analyzing.

RPI has MWC as #1 conference in basketball... Do you believe that ranking? Also the Big East has faltered in the tourney a bunch in past years... Does that discount their prowess as the best bball conference during those years?

(kenpom/BPI/RPI/Average)

MWC: New Mexico (25/9/2/12), UNLV (42/26/22/30), SDSU (36/27/29/31), CSU (30/28/23/27), Wyoming (123/82/79/95), Boise (59/44/44/49), Air Force (107/89/71/89), Fresno (111/120/129/120), Nevada (180/174/171/175)

Average of the averages: 70
Median: 49

AMC: Tulsa (183/158/139/160), Tulane (146/145/179/157), UCF (138/123/102/121), UConn (53/40/49/47), Cinci (40/35/50/42), Houston (174/171/197/181), ECU (126/136/105/122), Memphis (41/18/14/24), Temple (61/56/41/53), SMU (182/168/218/189), USF (143/135/151/143)

Average of the averages: 113
Median: 122

If you take out Memphis, UConn, Cinci, Temple the average is 153

Give me a break even trying to defend this basketball conference. Outside of the top 4 they are a joke.

Using kenpom for your "methodology" is a joke. In 2011 when UConn won it all, he had them in his final analysis just cracking the top 10. Duke, which was destroyed by Arizona in the Sweet Sixteen was his number one team. Through the years his method has become less and less credible.
 
Using kenpom for your "methodology" is a joke. In 2011 when UConn won it all, he had them in his final analysis just cracking the top 10. Duke, which was destroyed by Arizona in the Sweet Sixteen was his number one team. Through the years his method has become less and less credible.

His method is generally pretty poor when it comes to predicting tournament success.
 
Don't know if this has been mentioned but the MWC schedules division II programs because they do not count towards the RPI. So while real schools play the lower teams and have their RPI lowered, theirs isn't affected at all.

Padding your win total vs Pan Handle State, Regis Univ (is there a Kathie Lee Univ too), La Verne Univ, San Diego Christian College, and Walla Walla Univ (to name a few), without taking an RPI hit......genius.
Some of those are NAIA programs.
 
Most stuff is poor at predicting tournament success.
 
Any guesses to when Purvis is going to put out a list or something?
 
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Not sure if this was posted in this thread, but Purvis is transferring because his mother wants him to. Apparently she is a complete nightmare; KO is probably aware of this and prepared if he does indeed take Purvis.
 
My reading comprehension is fine. Your arguments are shifting how ever. Here is a direct quote from you. "Going from the best bball conference (ACC) to a mid major bball conference." No where did you say that they will be the best conference, which by the way is still open to debate. Furthermore when I sited RPI you defended the ACC as being the best by discounting RPI. Maybe if you at that point had said you meant you felt that in the future the ACC would be the best you might have a case. However, it seems your story is changing. Also I will repeat we are not sure what the ACC will look like when Louisville is in the league, as UNC may well be in the Big Ten. Syracuse may be on probation, and Notre Dame/Pittsburgh are good regular season teams that exit the NCAA tournaments consistently before many mid majors. So in 2 years the ACC may be the best conference, but right now they aren't, and there is no guarantee they will be.

You are an absolute idiot.

You comprehension skills are severely lacking.

Your direct quote you took from me had to do with 2014-2015 season when Purvis would be eligible to play. Please explain how the yester years have anything do with Rodney Purvis and the Big East as it will be constructed when he would be playing in what will be called the AMC?

Please enlighten me why you are hte only one who has brought up the past Big East vs ACC ect when I never once mentioned the past and their standing. The BIg East has been the best bball conference for quite some time HOWEVER the ACC will be the best BBALL conference when Purvis would be playing and that is what this thread was talking about.

Furthermore I quoted your post in #87 and replied to with the added teams and yet you still were unable to follow what I said and what was meant by my original post. I never once said anything about ACC being the best based on RPI as you claim above in the bolded. You are creating a false perception its weird.

Try going back and rereading each of my posts. Its not that difficult to follow. Heres a tip to follow... My comments are based on the perception of Purvis playing at UConn in 2014-2015. They ahve nothing to do with the Big East this year or the ACC in the past decade.

If you even care to read my post #88 I clearly state the Big East has been the best bball conference. Dont know why you are making things up about what I meant and what I said.
 
Not sure if this was posted in this thread, but Purvis is transferring because his mother wants him to. Apparently she is a complete nightmare; KO is probably aware of this and prepared if he does indeed take Purvis.

"Purvis is..."

Like you know.

Yeah right.

He's transferring because he listened to his mother and stayed home to play at NC State instead of UConn where he wanted to go in the first place. He's transferring to play for a coach that has actual abilities to help him improve his point guard skills and go to the NBA.
 
Not sure if this was posted in this thread, but Purvis is transferring because his mother wants him to. Apparently she is a complete nightmare; KO is probably aware of this and prepared if he does indeed take Purvis.
You embarrass yourself when you state things like this as fact, just because you read it from some random poster on your Friar board does not make it true. You have no clue why he is transferring and neither do I, what I do know is NC State has had 9 transfers since 2010 and 6 transfers in the past year or so. My guess is his transfer has more to do with his coach being a disaster and the NC State program having major problems.
 
You are an absolute idiot.

You comprehension skills are severely lacking.

Your direct quote you took from me had to do with 2014-2015 season when Purvis would be eligible to play. Please explain how the yester years have anything do with Rodney Purvis and the Big East as it will be constructed when he would be playing in what will be called the AMC?

Please enlighten me why you are hte only one who has brought up the past Big East vs ACC ect when I never once mentioned the past and their standing. The BIg East has been the best bball conference for quite some time HOWEVER the ACC will be the best BBALL conference when Purvis would be playing and that is what this thread was talking about.

Furthermore I quoted your post in #87 and replied to with the added teams and yet you still were unable to follow what I said and what was meant by my original post. I never once said anything about ACC being the best based on RPI as you claim above in the bolded. You are creating a false perception its weird.

Try going back and rereading each of my posts. Its not that difficult to follow. Heres a tip to follow... My comments are based on the perception of Purvis playing at UConn in 2014-2015. They ahve nothing to do with the Big East this year or the ACC in the past decade.

If you even care to read my post #88 I clearly state the Big East has been the best bball conference. Dont know why you are making things up about what I meant and what I said.
Unlike you I won't get into name calling. The simple fact is you made a statement about the ACC being the best conference. As for reading comprehension you should try it yourself, what I said is your response was about disclaiming RPI, not your saying the ACC was the best based on RPI. The funny thing is if you agreed that the ACC wasn't the best conference all you would have had to say is this "I agree the ACC hasn't been the best conference in the recent past, that I had misunderstood, and that you meant in two years it will be." That is a fairly simple thing to say and then the discussion could have moved on to whether anyone will have any idea what the best conference will look like in two years with the potential changes in basketball conferences that are likely coming down the road. Tell me two years ago would you have been able to predict that the Big East would be what it is going to be next year?

I think the problem with many people in groups like this is that they don't care about having an intelligent conversation or even making their point, they just want to insult and bluster. You would like to blame my reading comprehension, but in reality you are not all that interested in being clear just in being rude, insulting and arguing for the sake of it.

So if you agree that the ACC hasn't been the best conference, great I agree with you. Will it be the best in 2 years? It may be, but as I said earlier, with all that is going on with conference shifting, that isn't guaranteed. In two years the ACC may be as ripped apart as the Big East has been.
 
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This kid may not be worth the headache. Seems like he may be trouble based on a couple you tube videos. Cocky, taunting, gang signs. Didn't he initially commit to ville? Obviously he's a very good player but could be a headache.
 
This kid may not be worth the headache. Seems like he may be trouble based on a couple you tube videos. Cocky, taunting, gang signs. Didn't he initially commit to ville? Obviously he's a very good player but could be a headache.

Haha, "gang signs." I love it.
 
This kid may not be worth the headache. Seems like he may be trouble based on a couple you tube videos. Cocky, taunting, gang signs. Didn't he initially commit to ville? Obviously he's a very good player but could be a headache.
We need guys with swagger and toughness. Many seasons we seemed to lack guys who'd get in an opponent's face. You can't win with a team of choir boys on the court. I'm sure Ollie will be a good influence off the court.
 
This kid may not be worth the headache. Seems like he may be trouble based on a couple you tube videos. Cocky, taunting, gang signs. Didn't he initially commit to ville? Obviously he's a very good player but could be a headache.
You are a tool- here is something to consider - make your 27 post your last. I mean really?
 
Not sure if this was posted in this thread, but Purvis is transferring because his mother wants him to. Apparently she is a complete nightmare; KO is probably aware of this and prepared if he does indeed take Purvis.

He wanted to come here out of high school but his mom talked him into staying home. I think we're a little more familiar with his recruitment than you.
 
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I really wish some of the people here would think before posting.
But John, don't you understand? He watched some videos on Youtube. That type of analysis is never wrong.
 
This kid may not be worth the headache. Seems like he may be trouble based on a couple you tube videos. Cocky, taunting, gang signs. Didn't he initially commit to ville? Obviously he's a very good player but could be a headache.

I like your handle...Caronimo. Wonder what you thought of Butler before he committed to UConn.
 
His transfer year sitting out, will allow UConn's staff to determine if he's PG worthy & hopefully enough time recruit a PG, if he's not. They'll probably need another PG in the long run any ways with only Purvis/Samuel as our only real ball handlers. I don't count Calhoun as a solid ball handler and I think Boatright may be gone. And how would this affect recruiting for 2014?

+1
 
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