Haven't read much of this thread and jumping in late, but this isn't all that big of a deal honestly. Springs was a good get for the program but in all likelihood would not have contributed much this year. We'll be thankful to have him during his redshirt senior year.
All those comments were made before we knew that Whaley may have made a monumental jumpI think everyone has gone mad. I remember the urgent need to find another big. Back when everyone was dreading the.idea that Whaley was our back up center. Now everyone is talking like Springs was only an investment for our future. We may get lucky with Whaley, but this still shows the coaches were caught with their pants down.
They have been pretty great so far, minus landing a good center, so we can chalk it up to a learning experience.
But so many people revising history here.Surprised Herbst hasn't been blamed yet
All those comments were made before we knew that Whaley may have made a monumental jump
In the post game interview with Dan I sensed a bit of confidence in his tone when he stated “Richie’s going to be a real good basketball player for us....”
As long as he can swing the academics this could be the best route for both Richie and the program. A year battling with the team in practice while getting his body ready under Sal could be just what the Dr ordered for the beginning of the return to the Big East.
Think about this, there are many who might say "save that scholly if he's not academically eligible" right? But let me ask you this, would you prefer a 2020 kid ranked around 125 or thereabouts, or a kid ranked there from this year who can work out with the team all year as well as Alosi? Can't be upset about this at all it's best for the 18 year old to grow up and grow up mentally and physically. Gut feeling this kid will be a good one, he moves on the floor like a 6-4 kid and is already 6'8 or 9 and still growing.
That wasn't LSU football. It was another school's top-rated recruit, not someone late add for depth. If you don't have the school right, how can you know whether he was 1st sting, or 3rd string? You don't. Further, if LSU wanted one of their recruits eligible, sure, maybe the coaches would have had somebody do something, but to think the AD at LSU is getting involved in that stuff is crazy.No, I meant the LSU footbal wanted to redshirt that kid. He was 3/4th string. So they put no effort into making it happen. We're he a top recruit, they'd have moved heaven and hell to get him eligible.
Danny definitely didn't want to red shirt Springs.
I get that people don't care about this year too much. But we need wins desperately; I don't think this team is as good as some are saying on here and needs all the help it can get. If Springs contributed to just one win, that's meaningful. again jmo
BS. If you can get a kid you want into the program, into the weight room, and into practice etc, you do that. You don't assume a 17 year old won't change his mind 12 months from now. You don't waste additional time continuing to recruit him. You bring him in, redshirt if needed, and move on to the next. I'll admit it probably wasn't plan A, but the thought that in between filling the football schedule and all of his other duties, AD Dave is making sure the staff is fabricating transcripts so that we can risk NCAA punishment for a kid who wasn't likely to play meaningful minutes anyway is lunacy.I don't think Danny wanted to do that.
Wouldn't have pushed hard for a reclass if he didn't.
Strawman. People aren't as concerned as you, they see the benefit in the long run over the short term, and/or they think blaming the AD because someone decided not to cheat is strange.Back to Springs. Looks like folks are happy he isn't available this year. That's their prerogative. I don't agree. I'd much rather have more options.
That wasn't LSU football. It was another school's top-rated recruit, not someone late add for depth. If you don't have the school right, how can you know whether he was 1st sting, or 3rd string? You don't. Further, if LSU wanted one of their recruits eligible, sure
maybe the coaches would have had somebody do something, but to think the AD at LSU is getting involved in that stuff is crazy.
There's no way it's worth cheating for 1 win. If he's worth one win now as a raw project, what's he worth as a redshirt senior?
Do you know if Danny "definitely" wanted Springs to play this year or, you "think" he wanted him to play this year. You're talking out of your ...I see you creating strawmen and making inconsistent assumptions about what Hurley did or didn't want to do.
Strawman. People aren't as concerned as you, they see the benefit in the long run over the short term, and/or they think blaming the AD because someone decided not to cheat is strange.
All those comments were made before we knew that Whaley may have made a monumental jump
I'll grant you I took less than 3 second look at the link. Saw Purple/gold and LSU immediately came to mind. That's on me. But I see that it's ECU. Which makes sense, because they aren't big time.
And miscommunication on the word 'AD' is also on me. I mean, 'AD' as in Athletic Department. I use those acronyms interchangeably to the detriment of clarity. Benedict runs it, so sets that tone, but no, he's not involved in any single recruit.
I thought you meant Benedict. My bad.
I get that people here view how college sports operate through the lens of the UCONN AD, but that's just not how big time programs are playing the game. I've spent long enough in the SEC scene (it doesn't take much) to know that all wheels can and are greased. Boosters require/facilitate it even, or you're gonna be out of a job. At some schools, I would not be shocked if more than 50% of football transcripts are doctored.
I get that, but UConn isn't in the SEC. There is a long history of the NCAA treating us differently.
Don't poo poo contributions to one win. That one win could be in the AAC tournament. You don't know how critical it could be. And obviously, he'd probably help out more than that.
I won't poo poo the contributions of one win, but no, there's nothing "obvious" about a hypothetical. Had he been eligible he might not have played more than 5 minutes all season. "You don't know" that he would have contributed anything at all.
This is a message board. Of course it's "think". Every single post on this board is "think". You draw conclusions based on evidence on the table. Nobody has Hurley's ear on here. I thought that was blatantly obvious.
You wrote "definitely" then you wrote "think". Your posts were inconsistent. It is obvious that we don't have Hurley's ear.
This very much looks to be a loss in Hurley's eyes--yes, we are all making assumptions because we haven't spoken to the man--just using common sense.
Agreed. I think we disagree on the extent of the loss. But nobody knows, or will ever really know.
They desperately wanted another big this year. That is known. They recruited for it and struck out. They had a chance to grab a kid late in the game and took it.
Even a moron could see we had very, very little depth in the front court coming into this year. At that time, Hurley had no idea what to expect from Whaley (I'd argue we still don't). And Polley is limited. So he had 2 guys solidified (Akok/Carlton).
You think Hurley and UCONN just tried to have him reclassify eligibility-wise for the hell of it? I get bringing him in early to lock him down, there's value in that; that's true. But if you'd think he'd voluntarily red shirt him, when we are so flawed at his very position, idk what to tell you. We've only got 10 eligible guys on scholarship. That's far from ideal.
I'm also think it's highly likely that Ricky wouldn't go through the effort of reclassifying, at a young age, to come to UCONN simply to sit on the bench. He, like all kids, wanted to play.
Isn't that almost exactly what Akok did? Do I think they wanted him this year? Yes. Do I think they wanted him this year bad enough to cheat? Well, he's redshirting, so there's that.
Relax. It's hyperbole. People are putting lipstick on the pig. Fine, that's their right. But it's definitely worse for this season.
The sky isn't falling. He's not the difference between making the NCAA tourney and not making it. Our season isn't ruined.
"relax it's hyperbole"
It’s because we’re a traumatized fan base and any little change or incident makes us nervous. It does appear to be a good situation for Springs.
Dude, I listened to it ten times already. Today is a holiday.You know what dropped today, right?
Dude, I listened to it ten times already. Today is a holiday.
Watch "Gang Starr - From A Distance (Feat. Jeru The Damaja) [Official Audio]" on YouTubeYou know what dropped today, right?
Watch "Gang Starr - From A Distance (Feat. Jeru The Damaja) [Official Audio]" on YouTube
Favorites already- Family and Loyality, Bad Name, Hitman and get together. Boy I wish Guru had one more verse on Hitman.This was my favorite of the songs that weren't pre-released.
Take flight is dope. Haven't listened to all of it yet but it's Primo, he's never made a beat in his life. Is Group Home on it at all?Favorites already- Family and Loyality, Bad Name, Hitman and get together. Boy I wish Guru had one more verse on Hitman.
Yep. Their up thereTake flight is dope. Haven't listened to all of it yet but it's Primo, he's never made a beat in his life. Is Group Home on it at all?
Wasn't that like the day before yesterday? And what does it have to do with the coaches missing on his academic situation?All those comments were made before we knew that Whaley may have made a monumental jump
I’m still waiting to see support for the assumption that the staff “missed” on his academic situation.