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Randy has now fired BOTH of his coordinators!

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businesslawyer said:
O.K. It's great to make clear, unequivocal statements where you know that no one will ever know if you're right, but you may be right. I don't know what Edsall's motives were -- I can only assume.

I do know, however, that a bailing coach who sticks around for a bowl game is better than one who doesn't no matter what the motivation. It's like saying someone is only a good husband because he doesn't want to lose half his stuff in a divorce. As if the good act wasn't being the good husband whatever the motivation.
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Odds are you are wrong. How do you know "that a bailing coach who sticks around for a bowl game is better than one who doesn't no matter what the motivation."? You know Pitt would have done better in their bowl if their coach told them I've taken another job but I'll coach the bowl game? You know that WV would have done better in the bowl game if DickRod had said I'll coach before I go to Michigan - oh wait, WV won; I guess you know WV would have won by more.
 
jpm25 said:
To be fair, Bradford was hired as LB coach and was elevated when Brown left. OC was supposedly Anderson's call.
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Crowton's hiring was surprising to me. Does anyone know if he and Edsall had a working relationship before MD? Not surprised that it was Anderson's call.
 
huskysupporter said:
Crowton's hiring was surprising to me. Does anyone know if he and Edsall had a working relationship before MD? Not surprised that it was Anderson's call.
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Apparently they did have a previous working relationship...at BCU of all places! Good article describing things is linked below. It sounds as if Edsall made the phone call and was the reason for the hire. Edsall "called and said he wanted to have a very aggressive, wide open offense, like we did together at Boston College, and like I'd run at Louisiana Tech and Oregon," Crowton said. "So he's going to bring me out there and we're going to put that together.

I guess the friendship wasn't worth a second season. Maybe this is why Edsall has a different reputation in the coaching community than Pasqualoni does.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6018543
 
businesslawyer said:
O.K. I fully believe you believe that. I couldn't disagree with you more, because we absolutely had a better chance to win the game without him throwing things into turmoil, and that should have been his and everyone's first priority, but you're entitled to your opinion.
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If you think that Randy is such a magnanimous guy that he coached in Fiesta Bowl because it was in UConn's best interests.....well....we'll agree to disagree. Worst case scenario we get blown out by Oklahoma. Nick Saban could've coach us in Glendale last year......we weren't winning.

There was one reason that Randy coached in the Fiesta Bowl.......Randy.
 
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huskysupporter said:
Crowton's hiring was surprising to me. Does anyone know if he and Edsall had a working relationship before MD? Not surprised that it was Anderson's call.
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Of course no one knows (except BusinessLawyer) but word from their fans was that Crowton was Andersons call
 
Thank you Randy -- Thanks for talking to MD all week and then leading the team out to get humiliated 48-20. What a guy!
 
All this Edsall bashing might make you feel good, but dont be so sure Edsall won't turn the Terps around this year. Despite all the revisionist adulation for Friedgen, that team was a mess. Edsall brought tough love, weeding out the bad apples with the negative attitudes that had the Terps quitting on their season. But a lot of the talent is still there. I say the Terps will be the surprise team in The ACC.
 
Nostical said:
All this Edsall bashing might make you feel good, but dont be so sure Edsall won't turn the Terps around this year. Despite all the revisionist adulation for Friedgen, that team was a mess. Edsall brought tough love, weeding out the bad apples with the negative attitudes that had the Terps quitting on their season. But a lot of the talent is still there. I say the Terps will be the surprise team in The ACC.
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A mess according to who? Edsall? People like to believe that Maryland was some sort of Renegade program, from where I sit, it doesn't seem any worse off than our Men's Basketball program.

Hey Apologist Deniers. The next time you guys try to tell us that their was no such thing as Edsall worshippers can I reference posts like this?

Edsall apparently doesn't even have the power to hire his own coordinators and yet he's still going to be smash hit despite the fact that he hasn't done anything to indicate that he isn't in over his head and the fact that most of the fanbase has written him off.

OK.
 
Nostical said:
All this Edsall bashing might make you feel good, but dont be so sure Edsall won't turn the Terps around this year. Despite all the revisionist adulation for Friedgen, that team was a mess. Edsall brought tough love, weeding out the bad apples with the negative attitudes that had the Terps quitting on their season. But a lot of the talent is still there. I say the Terps will be the surprise team in The ACC.
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Maryland can go 3-9 and still boast a 50% increase in wins over 2011. I think he's a solid coach with underwhelming people skills. He's kicked out the do-rags and erased a 9-win season in 3 months. So what if he gets to 6-6? that would still mean he put up less wins in his first 2 seasons than Fridge did in the final season before he was fired. Sometimes it's about doing things the right way. For Edsall, it's about doing things the Randy way.
 
So if he wins the ACC you'll do what? Enough with the apologista crap. You don't have a clue what he faced on that team down there. He'll have a very successful tenure in College Park.
 
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2Infinity said:
Apparently they did have a previous working relationship...at BCU of all places! Good article describing things is linked below. It sounds as if Edsall made the phone call and was the reason for the hire. Edsall "called and said he wanted to have a very aggressive, wide open offense, like we did together at Boston College, and like I'd run at Louisiana Tech and Oregon," Crowton said. "So he's going to bring me out there and we're going to put that together.

I guess the friendship wasn't worth a second season. Maybe this is why Edsall has a different reputation in the coaching community than Pasqualoni does.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6018543
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i like p, and think he has many admirable traits, but his reputation with respect to loyalty concerns me a little bit. deleone has had a number of head-scratching moments this past season, both play-calling and game management. i think he is past the point of getting better with age. if things go sour with deleone, p's track record suggests that he will be slow on the trigger. this is the one thing i have learned from reading the syracuse boards. besides their delusional perception of themselves.
 
My sense is that when The Huskies hire their new AD, Pres. Herbst will advise him to watch out for that. Given her vision of UConn's future place in the academic spectrum, she won't tolerate a downward slide in our "front porch" programs. (She believes athletics--especially televised athletics-- are the front porch of a university.)
 
I don't know what to think about RE's motivations. I wish he had left better. I think he does deserve some type of honor in the Burton, such as a plaque, or some area named after him. He did a fine job. Not a better job than PP, or anyone else, would have done, imho. The setup was here. It was a BCS conference. Of course you could recruit the scraps and leftovers that other BCS teams didn't want. He did a fine job. His classless manner of leaving? Have to forgive and forget.
 
Nostical said:
So if he wins the ACC you'll do what? Enough with the apologista crap. You don't have a clue what he faced on that team down there. He'll have a very successful tenure in College Park.
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I heard it was a real horror show in Maryland. Players wore earrings and listened to rap music in the locker room.
 
gars44 said:
I don't know what to think about RE's motivations. I wish he had left better. I think he does deserve some type of honor in the Burton, such as a plaque, or some area named after him. He did a fine job. Not a better job than PP, or anyone else, would have done, imho. The setup was here. It was a BCS conference. Of course you could recruit the scraps and leftovers that other BCS teams didn't want. He did a fine job. His classless manner of leaving? Have to forgive and forget.
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So the plaque should say heres to being average?
 
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sportsart said:
To say he did an average job just shows how ignorant you are.
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He was 74 - 70 in 10 years

no undefeated season

no 10 win season

no championship won outright

went to a BCS by default......

what about that is above average?
 
sportsart said:
To say he did an average job just shows how ignorant you are.
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If you look at the post I replied to: "He did a fine job. Not a better job than PP, or anyone else, would have done, imho" you will see that I replied to the very definition of average - doing what anyone else would have done. And that deserves a plaque for that, according to that post.
 
Nostical said:
You don't have a clue what he faced on that team down there .
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I'm picturing a cross between The Principal and Dangerous Minds. Coolio playing in the background. Player wearing doo-rag shouts "This here team is MY team, and I make the rules." Edsall rips the doo-rag off his head and the player spits on him. Edsall cries out "Not anymore. This is my dream job." Cut to commercial - Under Armor is the sponsor.
 
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When are the PP apologists going to get a nickname? 5-7, complete disorganization, a almost comical ability to manage the clock and maybe the flattest home showing in an important spot in program history against Louisville.

People bring up the Navy game from 5 years ago against Edsall... you'll have to pretend you didn't see Louisville's players dancing at Rentschler to start the fourth quarter in front of an empty stadium.
 
whaler11 said:
When are the PP apologists going to get a nickname? 5-7, complete disorganization, a almost comical ability to manage the clock and maybe the flattest home showing in an important spot in program history against Louisville.

People bring up the Navy game from 5 years ago against Edsall... you'll have to pretend you didn't see Louisville's players dancing at Rentschler to start the fourth quarter in front of an empty stadium.
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So a coach needs an apologist one year into his tenure, where he inherited a walk on at qb, and running game not remotely close to what we've had the last three years. People are now making excuses for Randy' s results.........at Maryland. You put all of uconn's struggles on P, yet in this thread some are blaming Randy's disaster on the culture left behind by his predecessor. Thar seems like the apologists defined to the core.

If P is delivering mediocre results with no imagination on offense and defense after three years then he should go as well.
 
noeynox said:
So a coach needs an apologist one year into his tenure, where he inherited a walk on at qb, and running game not remotely close to what we've had the last three years. People are now making excuses for Randy' s results.........at Maryland. You put all of uconn's struggles on P, yet in this thread some are blaming Randy's disaster on the culture left behind by his predecessor. Thar seems like the apologists defined to the core.

If P is delivering mediocre results with no imagination on offense and defense after three years then he should go as well.
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I'm not putting all of the struggles on the coach, but around here Edsall needed 'apologists' after going to 4 straight bowl games and winning a share of the league twice in 4 years with a trip to the Fiesta. I haven't made a single excuse for Edsall at Maryland, I don't care if he wins, loses or gets fired tomorrow.

The coaching staff this year put a team on the field that was at times comically disorganized, managed the clock like they don't know the timing rules and when the league and BCS bid was still up for grabs the team came out and laid an egg while Louisville lived it up on the road. Were they disorganized on defense because they had a walk on quarterback? Did they leave players in charge of clock management? Posters still put the games against Wake and Navy at Edsall's feet - why doesn't P own the pathetic effort against Louisville.

Maryland did have some core issues that they needed resolved - they hired Edsall for a reason. The academics were in disarray and the inmates were running the asylum. He did a terrible job, he should have tried to change the culture incrementally - instead he blew the whole thing up. Might work out in the end, but it probably won't because it needs to be a quick turnaround and that isn't his strength.
 
P does own that. And like I said, if we're seeing the same results in three years he should be replaced.

I see some encouraging signs also. Time will tell, but all I'll say is that the best thing to come out of Edsall leaving on his own is that the training wheels are officially off of this program. Going forward the only that should matter are results. I mean, at the end of the Edsall tenure, each disappointment or critique of the man was countered with a "he built this program from the ground up" type response. P needs to get it done or he will be gone. I'm rooting for him to succeed.
 
Nostical said:
All this Edsall bashing might make you feel good, but dont be so sure Edsall won't turn the Terps around this year. Despite all the revisionist adulation for Friedgen, that team was a mess. Edsall brought tough love, weeding out the bad apples with the negative attitudes that had the Terps quitting on their season. But a lot of the talent is still there. I say the Terps will be the surprise team in The ACC.
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They guys he let stay did a pretty good job of quitting on him this year, too.
 
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