OT: Lonzo Ball's dad

[JSM1970]

No way. Father will be chirping day one and minute he doesn't like something and how he"ll sign somewhere else.

The kid is a total jerk. The father is more of a jerk, and the younger brother is a Tier 1 jerk.

Best thing is wherever he goes NBA guys will go 110% after the kid. Kid will be a huge bust. If I was a NBA coach I'd double team this jerk on every possession.

The kid is a trememdous talent. The father reminds me of the Williams sisters father. Id draft the kid in a heartbeat and the father wouldnt be an issue at all.

 

[Walker11]

I disagree. Teams will back off of this circus act. The kid is a jerk and the brother and father are worse.

NBA coaches and GMs won't deal with this. He's not a can't miss.

The father doesn't get it. The kid scored 8 points in a semi PAC-12 loss. Such an unlikeable player and kid, family.

I could say this is ridiculous and call you out for the 100th time but I've realized that does nothing.. Lets make some type of bet if you really feel this strongly. If he is top 3, you stop posting here and if falls out of the top 3, I'll stop posting here.

 

[JSM1970]

Wait, didn't you just create a thread insulting UConn fans or something?

My thing is 2 fold with Ball:

1) I can see him falling because GMs don't want to deal with his "brand" and other stuff and idiot father chirping

2) he'll be a huge bust, because he's not an elite player, and other teams will go hard at him because they hate his act

If he goes high even, #2 is a definite

I could say this is ridiculous and call you out for the 100th time but I've realized that does nothing.. Lets make some type of bet if you really feel this strongly. If he is top 3, you stop posting here and if falls out of the top 3, I'll stop posting here.

 

[Walker11]

Wait, didn't you just create a thread insulting UConn fans or something?

My thing is 2 fold with Ball:

1) I can see him falling because GMs don't want to deal with his "brand" and other stuff and idiot father chirping

2) he'll be a huge bust, because he's not an elite player, and other teams will go hard at him because they hate his act

If he goes high even, #2 is a definite

This is what bothers me about your take. He has no "act." He is extremely quiet, supposedly an excellent student and good all around kid and has done nothing to warrant this label. If you think he is overrated, fine. But to paint him as a bad dude because his father is outspoken and because his brother once made a halfcourt shot is absolutely insane. And no, you are confusing me with another poster.

 

[James]

lavar ball= confirmed jackass

 

[JSM1970]

Kid is so overrated.

Hopefully if C's don't get #1 (Fultz) they don't go anywhere near this circus act joke.

This is what bothers me about your take. He has no "act." He is extremely quiet, supposedly an excellent student and good all around kid and has done nothing to warrant this label. If you think he is overrated, fine. But to paint him as a bad dude because his father is outspoken and because his brother once made a halfcourt shot is absolutely insane. And no, you are confusing me with another poster.

 

[JSM1970]

That idiot father claims he was an "NFL"
player pro athlete as such but never made a 53 man roster

lavar ball= confirmed jackass

 

[Jaker]

Lonzo Ball is a very good player and will probably go top 5 in the draft, but he is no Lebron James or Stephen Curry, so the old man should just STFU. By they time the youngest kid gets to college the entire family will be hated.

 

[WrenchFan69]

I absolutely need the youngest brother to go full Jeremy Tyler

 

[BUConn10]

That idiot father claims he was an "NFL"
player pro athlete as such but never made a 53 man roster

Im actually with you on this. While although its petty to gripe that a pro athlete never technically made a 53 man roster, its far more petty to be an athlete and stretch the truth about your career. If you dont need to make a roster to be considered an "NFL player", then hell the whole concessions staff spent a good deal of time in the NFL too.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Lonzo Ball is a very good player and will probably go top 5 in the draft, but he is no Lebron James or Stephen Curry, so the old man should just . By they time the youngest kid gets to college the entire family will be hated.

Nobody is Lebron James. But when Curry was this kid's age he had three years of college ahead of him and no one would have predicted he'd become what he's become. So you shouldn't let your apparent hatred for the kid's father to blind you to the possibility that this kid will be one of the very best players in the league sooner rather than later. The kid's got a feel for the game that very few players have.

(His middle brother has zero shot at the league and his youngest needs a massive growth spurt.)

 

[JSM1970]

They already are. When that jerk kid stood 1/2 court for the whole game to raise his stats I think it became more public to those who follow this stuff.

I just think the NBA guys will be like, "oh, we're playing that Ball kid who said he's better than MJ. Locking him down tonight."

He'll be a huge bust.

Lonzo Ball is a very good player and will probably go top 5 in the draft, but he is no Lebron James or Stephen Curry, so the old man should just . By they time the youngest kid gets to college the entire family will be hated.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

You are right, there is a clear talent disparity between the two groups, but you can clearly see his goal is to upset and inflamme the public, because its doubly true on twitter that there really is "No such thing as bad press".

Just the brand growth of the word/name "Ball" and its obvious marketability have grown tremendously from all the talk this behavior has generated. I had people who dont even watch bball mention this to me from Social media.

That's fair enough. I agree with the "no bad press" but having seen Lavar in action a couple times I'm hesitant to ascribe it to some grand strategy. Maybe I'm not giving the dude enough credit. I will say that when you see them at UCLA the family could not seem more normal.

 

[BUConn10]

Nobody is Lebron James. But when Curry was this kid's age he had three years of college ahead of him and no one would have predicted he'd become what he's become. So you shouldn't let your apparent hatred for the kid's father to blind you to the possibility that this kid will be one of the very best players in the league sooner rather than later. The kid's got a feel for the game that very few players have.

(His middle brother has zero shot at the league and his youngest needs a massive growth spurt.)

Its really Lonzo and no one else, his brothers are only riding his coattails and dont have a shot at the league or even college stardom in my opinion. But the fact that their father's outlandish behavior is apparently so successful that we know their names, and are discussing them on a major message board all the way on the west coast is all the proof you need. One of them got a UCLA offer just to get big bro on board, and Im sure the last one will get the Seth Curry treatment at the very least if UCLA decides not to complete the trinity.

Lavar dad got his 2nd and 3rd sons those schollies and future hype before they even step on the court.

 

[temery]

I have a hard time believing a team would pass on a kid simply because the father is a loon. As long as the player isn't high mantainance, why would they care? They don't have to deal with the father.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Its really Lonzo and no one else, his brothers are only riding his coattails and dont have a shot at the league or even college stardom in my opinion. But the fact that their father's outlandish behavior is apparently so successful that we know their names, and are discussing them on a major message board all the way on the west coast is all the proof you need. One of them got a UCLA offer just to get big bro on board, and Im sure the last one will get the Seth Curry treatment at the very least if UCLA decides not to complete the trinity.

Lavar dad got his 2nd and 3rd sons those schollies and future hype before they even step on the court.

The middle kid I agree on. I see him ending his career at UC Riverside or some place like that. My only hesitation in agreeing on the youngest is he could be 6-7 by the time he's a senior. He still wouldn't be as good as his brother - that jump shot is atrocious - but he's crafty.

 

[Jaker]

Nobody is Lebron James. But when Curry was this kid's age he had three years of college ahead of him and no one would have predicted he'd become what he's become. So you shouldn't let your apparent hatred for the kid's father to blind you to the possibility that this kid will be one of the very best players in the league sooner rather than later. The kid's got a feel for the game that very few players have.

(His middle brother has zero shot at the league and his youngest needs a massive growth spurt.)

LOL I don't hate the father, I just think he is going over the top with this thing. And thanks ESPN for shoving it down our throats even more.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

LOL I don't hate the father, I just think he is going over the top with this thing. And thanks ESPN for shoving it down our throats even more.

I really wanted to dislike him but I've probably seen more UCLA games than any other school this year and the kid just has it.

 

[Jaker]

I thought the middle kid already committed to UCLA too??

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

I thought the middle kid already committed to UCLA too??

They both did. Neither one of them are as good as Lonzo. The youngest kid's ranking seems absurd to me.

 

[shizzle787]

The father isn't a loon. This is pure PR, keeping his family name in the limelight. He'll take being called a loon, if his sons get in the press.

 

[Mr. French]

I think the whole situation is annoying -- it's basically the "ESPN type" hype that bothers me about a lot of stuff, and that aspect bothers me about Lavar and his politicking.

But there's no way I can watch that dude hoop and not think he is and will be a great player.

 

[Jaker]

I am going to watch UCLA play on friday and sunday, I hope the kid lights it up.

 

[BUConn10]

Speaking of the devil.

Got this The Score notification literally seconds ago while reading this thread.

CASE CLOSED. LAVAR WINS.

 

[HooperScooper]

There was a long spotlight on the family on ESPN today. How the father trained all 3 of them everyday since they were little kids. He already has copyrighted the brand Ball Brothers "Something" (can't remember the last "B" word) with tee shirts and other merchandise with three interlocking B's. The guy is nuts. Makes Todd Marinovich's father seem normal. I just hope for the kids' sakes that they don't end up like Marinovich.

What I don't understand is how the media eats up the crap this guy says. He's doing a good job promoting his kids but he's also certainly a nut job. Does the media really need to promote the words and actions of a loon who is so obviously doing all this for self promotion?