OT: Lonzo Ball's dad

[Huskyforlife]

I'll take draymond in a fight.

 

[Jaker]

I'll take draymond in a fight.

Me too

 

[husky429]

Have you ever seen Lavar Ball? My money's on him in that one.

Say what you want about this dude, but he did something right raising his kids.

I think "raising his kids" involves some more than basketball. If lonzo handles himself on the court with the class and dignity of Tim Duncan, then we'll talk. Much much more to "raising a kid" than a sport--and unfortunately a lot of parents I work with forget that.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Lavar's about 6-7, 330 and a former NFL player who grew up in one of the roughest areas of Southern California. Plus he's got that quasi-old man strength.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

I think "raising his kids" involves some more than basketball. If lonzo handles himself on the court with the class and dignity of Tim Duncan, then we'll talk. Much much more to "raising a kid" than a sport--and unfortunately a lot of parents I work with forget that.

Just curious, what's your issue with how Lonzo Ball handles himself on the court? Off the court, I know enough UCLA boosters to know that the kid's a great student, has an unparalleled work ethic, and hasn't been in trouble a day in his life. Dad did something right.

 

[husky429]

Just curious, what's your issue with how Lonzo Ball handles himself on the court? Off the court, I know enough UCLA boosters to know that the kid's a great student, has an unparalleled work ethic, and hasn't been in trouble a day in his life. Dad did something right.

I have nothing against the kid. I think he's fine on the court, from the 6-7 games I've seen. Certainly no Grayson Allen. You didn't present any evidence that suggested he was a good kid off the court before. I stand corrected!

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

I have nothing against the kid. I think he's fine on the court, from the 6-7 games I've seen. Certainly no Grayson Allen. You didn't present any evidence that suggested he was a good kid off the court before. I stand corrected!

Didn't realize there was a rebuttable presumption that he's a bad kid.

 

[husky429]

Didn't realize there was a rebuttable presumption that he's a bad kid.

When you said that he's doing something right, since you didn't say anything about him personally, I figured you meant on the court. 99% of people know nothing about him personally, so my assumption is you don't either. but obviously you're a part of that 1%. Good for him if he's able to keep a good head on his shoulders with the fame.

Didn't mean to say he's a bad kid, just that we don't know. Obviously you do, at least to an extent. I'd cool it on the "unparalleled work ethic" though. That title goes to Kobe and KO

Dad is definitely doing a nice job to set his sons up for a nice future, building their name-recognition and all. Kids at my work know the Balls by name, but wouldn't recognize better players in hs if they were on the same court with them.

 

[intlzncster]

Lavar's about 6-7, 330 and a former NFL player who grew up in one of the roughest areas of Southern California. Plus he's got that quasi-old man strength.

This dude would work Green inside out:

 

[JSM1970]

You mean when the other son scored 92 and stood at 1/2 court and never played any defense.

Yeah, that seems like he's been raised as a team player.

Hopefully the C's aren't stuck with #2-3 and potentially drafting Lonzo and have to deal with this. I'd trade down or take the Issac kid.

Dad is definitely doing a nice job to set his sons up for a nice future, building their name-recognition and all. Kids at my work know the Balls by name, but wouldn't recognize better players in hs if they were on the same court with them.

 

[Huskyforlife]

Lavar's about 6-7, 330 and a former NFL player who grew up in one of the roughest areas of Southern California. Plus he's got that quasi-old man strength.

Is he really still 330? I might take Draymond on conditioning alone.

 

[superjohn]

Lavar's about 6-7, 330 and a former NFL player who grew up in one of the roughest areas of Southern California. Plus he's got that quasi-old man strength.

Not sure he should really be claiming he is a former NFL player when he never made a 53 man roster.

 

[Rico444]

Except its not.

You're right, my bad. Lonzo's dad walked back his comments, while Archie actually managed to strong-arm his son to the team that he wanted.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Not sure he should really be claiming he is a former NFL player when he never made a 53 man roster.

This is a very odd comment.

 

[Jerry1714]

You're right, my bad. Lonzo's dad walked back his comments, while Archie actually managed to strong-arm his son to the team that he wanted.

Please cite me Archie comparing Eli to Montana before the draft, or Archie saying if Eli was on the Pats and Brady was on Ole Miss the Pats would be better off, or saying Eli would only play in NYC?

Ball's dad is a mix between a pimp and Kris Jenner.

 

[superjohn]

This is a very odd comment.

Why is it a very odd comment?

 

[Rico444]

Please cite me Archie comparing Eli to Montana before the draft, or Archie saying if Eli was on the Pats and Brady was on Ole Miss the Pats would be better off, or saying Eli would only play in NYC?

Ball's dad is a mix between a pimp and Kris Jenner.

Come on, you're smart enough to figure out the parallel I'm making between the two. Take all the time you need.

 

[champs99and04]

He's a jackhole but Lonzo looks like the next Jason Kidd to me.

Which is what exactly in today's NBA? That't not a rhetorical question, I'm actually curious. He sure as hell isn't in the same stratosphere as Kidd defensively.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Why is it a very odd comment?

It's weirdly petty. The whole thing with his father is becoming increasingly overblown. The Balls are pretty hard to dislike as a family. So his dad gets a little overzealous. He's far from the first one. Anyway, his kid is much better than I figured he'd be and is going to be very, very good at the next level.

 

[methodology]

Which is what exactly in today's NBA? That't not a rhetorical question, I'm actually curious. He sure as hell isn't in the same stratosphere as Kidd defensively.

Don't sell lonzo short. Ball has the passing ability/vision and feel for the game as kidd and is a better scorer/shooter at this point in their careers. Lonzo defense is underrated IMO maybe not kiddesque but he isn't a slouch his length and feel for getting in passing lanes is disruptive

 

[CardiacAndre7]

It's weirdly petty. The whole thing with his father is becoming increasingly overblown. The Balls are pretty hard to dislike as a family. So his dad gets a little overzealous. He's far from the first one. Anyway, his kid is much better than I figured he'd be and is going to be very, very good at the next level.

I find the father very hard to like, and Lamelo as well. But Lonzo seems like a good kid.

 

[JSM1970]

Yeah, want this kid nowhere near the C's if we miss on Fultz no matter how good

Rather lose with people I respect than ones I don't (more about Father and jerk brother) so it's only a matter of time

Don't sell lonzo short. Ball has the passing ability/vision and feel for the game as kidd and is a better scorer/shooter at this point in their careers. Lonzo defense is underrated IMO maybe not kiddesque but he isn't a slouch his length and feel for getting in passing lanes is disruptive

 

[ctchamps]

Yeah, want this kid nowhere near the C's if we miss on Fultz no matter how good

Rather lose with people I respect than ones I don't (more about Father and jerk brother) so it's only a matter of time

Speaking of kids do you have any?
Ack! Which poster just entered my head?

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

I find the father very hard to like, and Lamelo as well. But Lonzo seems like a good kid.

It's really bizarre that people make these good kid / bad kid determinations based on what happens on the court.

Incidentally, I can't really think of a better endorsement than JSM's statement that he doesn't respect Lonzo Ball. This dude is making a run at biggest loser in Boneyard history.

 

[CardiacAndre7]

It's really bizarre that people make these good kid / bad kid determinations based on what happens on the court.

Incidentally, I can't really think of a better endorsement than JSM's statement that he doesn't respect Lonzo Ball. This dude is making a run at biggest loser in Boneyard history.

You're right, I shouldn't have said LaMelo is hard to like, don't know enough about him, but from what I have seen I don't like the way he plays. Pointing at the halfcourt line and pulling up from there to start a game, playing minimal defense, and a couple interviews I saw of him just rubbed me the wrong way.

But, I do not like LaVar Ball. He is a pompous, anooying loud mouth who thinks his sons are the next coming. He says each of them will be better than Steph, and the whole Lakers thing. And when he gets backlash, as he has from those two comments, he tries to excuse it by re-stating it in a less-cocky, yet still somewhat arrogant way.

 

[tcf15]

Lonzo Ball’s Dad Says He’ll Make His Own Brand Like Jordan If Shoe Companies Don’t Give Him Right Deal

LaVar was speaking with former NFL wide receiver Keyshawn Johnson on ESPN radio and most notably talked about pursuing his son’s sneaker deal.

“They’re kicking in the door, but they’re shocked at what I’m telling them. I said, ‘I’m not looking for no endorsement deal. I’m looking for a marketing and distribution deal.’ Branding. The only person doing that is (Michael) Jordan with Nike. That’s what we’re for. If Lonzo doesn’t sign with Adidas, Nike or Under Armour, guess what — I’ll sign the Big Baller Brand.

“We already got our own brand. Triple B’s. Lonzo is going to be the first one drafted with his own brand. That don’t happen.”

 

[Huskyforlife]

Lonzo Ball’s Dad Says He’ll Make His Own Brand Like Jordan If Shoe Companies Don’t Give Him Right Deal

LaVar was speaking with former NFL wide receiver Keyshawn Johnson on ESPN radio and most notably talked about pursuing his son’s sneaker deal.

“They’re kicking in the door, but they’re shocked at what I’m telling them. I said, ‘I’m not looking for no endorsement deal. I’m looking for a marketing and distribution deal.’ Branding. The only person doing that is (Michael) Jordan with Nike. That’s what we’re for. If Lonzo doesn’t sign with Adidas, Nike or Under Armour, guess what — I’ll sign the Big Baller Brand.

“We already got our own brand. Triple B’s. Lonzo is going to be the first one drafted with his own brand. That don’t happen.”

Pimp.

 

[superjohn]

It's weirdly petty. The whole thing with his father is becoming increasingly overblown. The Balls are pretty hard to dislike as a family. So his dad gets a little overzealous. He's far from the first one. Anyway, his kid is much better than I figured he'd be and is going to be very, very good at the next level.

I really know nothing about the family and could care less about them. Lonzo is probably my favorite player in college this year and he looks like the closest thing I've seen to Kidd. Was just pointing out a couple weeks as a practice player could be seen as a stretch when calling someone a former NFL player. Think you have to at least suit up once.

 

[superjohn]

Which is what exactly in today's NBA? That't not a rhetorical question, I'm actually curious. He sure as hell isn't in the same stratosphere as Kidd defensively.

A great point guard. Are you implying Kidd wouldn't be elite in today's NBA? I think Kidd is a star in any era.

 

[champs99and04]

It's really bizarre that people make these good kid / bad kid determinations based on what happens on the court.

Incidentally, I can't really think of a better endorsement than JSM's statement that he doesn't respect Lonzo Ball. This dude is making a run at biggest loser in Boneyard history.

The trend where people seem to be judged as people based on their sports opinions is even more bizarre. I don't get how this situation is suddenly toxic because his father has some outrageous beliefs about basketball. I mean, everybody knows that little league parent, but when it gets to the pros I don't see how something like this is even a factor.