OT: FBI has reportedly arrested several NCAA basketball assistant coaches.

[UConnSwag11]

Coach K has about as many NBA first-rounders from 2010 to today as he had from 1990 to 2010. His recruiting has changed wholesale since Capel came onto the scene.

That's what ever board is saying that I've been checking out. Especially the Kentucky board

 

[nomar]

Carlos boozer Chris duhon

JINX

 

[Fairfield_1st]

Imagine a world with Pitino, Calipari, Self, K, Williams, Miller and a few others in prison. That would be glorious.

I agree.

 

[UConnSwag11]

 

[UConnSwag11]

 

[August_West]

And Duhon and Boozer's parents got cushy jobs.

That's boosters, though. Most head coaches would look the other way if they saw their player driving a nice car or saw the kid's parents moving into a nice house.

We did.
Pull the rug up far enough and no one is immune.

 

[Horatio]

We should at least get a 4 star recruit that we weren't expecting to get after all this settles , Hopefully.

 

[Stinger92860]

Cal has a great marketing plan in selling to the one and done's. He probably does not need to pay. Coach K on the other hand has to get kids to attend a more rigorous academic institution. I often wonder how these kids meet the minimum grade requirements. It will be interesting to see how things turn out.

 

[ctchamps]

I wasn't entirely kidding when I said the NCAA should be looked at as co-conspirators. I have little doubt they turned a blind eye to infractions by some big programs.

My hope is Emmert brings up the APR NCAA ruling and either the Justice Department and/or Congress reads it and comes down with a ruling that says the NCAA punished universities who were legitimately following a code of scholastic ethics while turning a blind eye to those who didn't. The APR got a lot of buzz at the time it was introduced but it was obvious to some of us at the time it was a diversion tactic. I hoping some outside authority with muscle sees it that way as well and UConn and JC are vindicated.

 

[UConnNick]

Cal has a great marketing plan in selling to the one and done's. He probably does not need to pay. Coach K on the other hand has to get kids to attend a more rigorous academic institution. I often wonder how these kids meet the minimum grade requirements. It will be interesting to see how things turn out.

Simple...they major in Sociology. That's sort of their equivalent to UNC's fake classes. It's their easiest path for athletes to graduation, assuming they stick around that long.

 

[LStudfellow]

And how about the fact that Dick Vitale, in his entire 2-minute monologue two days ago on ESPN, when he blamed the shoe companies for so much of this mess, actually did make mention of one relatively "new" phenomenon at the top schools that really disgusts him (without naming names, of course): recruits who go from being high school juniors in May/June to on campus and eligible to play college basketball by September/October.

I found that shocking coming from the biggest Coach K/Cal sycophant out there, since the most recent incident of that happening was... none other than Marvin Bagley matriculating at Duke! May well be the first time I have ever heard Dickie V dare to take a shot across the bow of his best buddy Coach K and the school that "stands for everything pristine and great in the college basketball world" (according to him, anyway).

Does anyone doubt that Krzyzewski couldn't pick up his red hotline phone fast enough directly to Dickie V's house to scorch him for that one?

Anyone who thinks the Duke program is entirely clean at this point has his head in the sand. There are other, much less direct ways to cheat the system... and if any group of people knows how to do it the best, I guarantee you it is the Duke alumni. Outside of the Ivy League schools, Duke boasts the most influential group of alumni at one school in our country.

They know multiple ways to "game the system" without any of us ever knowing or finding out. They do not get caught not because they are clean... but because they know how to not be stupid, arrogant and/or careless about it.

 

[HuskyHawk]

For what it is worth, I ventured over to two different Kansas boards. Opinions are mixed. Some are worried due to the Adidas connection, and kids like Wiggins. Nobody thought Jackson was at all suspect though. Others are reacting similarly to us, rejoicing in the downfall of people they don't like. KU lost a big recruit to Alabama recently for example. And Kansas fans hate Duke and Kentucky.

 

[ctchamps]

temery - a valid point to be sure. The NCAA has little credibility. Notice Emmert's comment about this entire mess has been "The nature of the charges brought by the federal government are deeply disturbing. We have no tolerance whatsoever for this alleged behavior. Coaches hold a unique position of trust with student-athletes and their families and these bribery allegations, if true, suggest an extraordinary and despicable breach of that trust. We learned of these charges this morning and of course will support the ongoing criminal federal investigation.”

Not a peep since this comment 2 days ago. Now congressional comments “The federal government’s investigation into sports companies and basketball coaches at numerous colleges across the nation is extremely troubling and puts into serious question the NCAA’s ability to oversee its own institutions,” Rep. Greg Walden (R-Ore.) and Rep. Frank Pallone Jr. (D-N.J.) said in a joint statement Thursday. If congress starts demanding answers and digging into past NCAA rulings, they may very well find inconsistant and unfair decisions. Favoring the chosen few will show up.

The congressional statement could be considered damning to the NCAA. They are in the crosshairs too and I believe they know it. This is why, in the end, Emmert and company are going to have no choice but to give Louisville the death penalty. I would not be surprised if they also come down on UNC extremely hard.

When the extent of the UNC transgressions were reported and understood there were rumblings in Congress to investigate universities and athletics. That never went anywhere.

This is a whole new playing field for them to get involved in. Those sanctimonious so and so's will love to create investigative committees over this. It's not important from a national standpoint imo, but it is visceral enough for both geeks and jocks (for different reasons obviously) to support this activity. Some congressman who wants to make a name for itself will go full monty.

So I agree with you about UNC. Emmett and the NCAA will want to CTA and won't go lightly with UNC for a variety of reasons including what Fishy has told us. But if I were anybody in the NCAA I would be considering lawyering up. There is definitely smoke that shows connections with questionable agents. Example is the pump brothers as @upstater pointed out in several threads including this:

NCAA "looking into" Nerlens Noel

 

[upstater]

When the extent of the UNC transgressions were reported and understood there were rumblings in Congress to investigate universities and athletics. That never went anywhere.

This is a whole new playing field for them to get involved in. Those sanctimonious so and so's will love to create investigative committees over this. It's not important from a national standpoint imo, but it is visceral enough for both geeks and jocks (for different reasons obviously) to support this activity. Some congressman who wants to make a name for itself will go full monty.

So I agree with you about UNC. Emmett and the NCAA will want to CTA and won't go lightly with UNC for a variety of reasons including what Fishy has told us. But if I were anybody in the NCAA I would be considering lawyering up. There is definitely smoke that shows connections with questionable agents. Example is the pump brothers as @upstater pointed out in several threads including this:

NCAA "looking into" Nerlens Noel

Even Coach K. and many others were comping F4 tix to the Pumps, AND they were subscribing to 2 page "newsletters" for $20k a year. Nice little side biz.Of course, the ex. NCAA director Cedric Dempsey resigned from the NCAA and became... a consultant for the Pumps coach recruiting service! You cannot make this stuff up.

It is pretty clear Emmert had a vendetta against UConn.

 

[UConnSwag11]

 

[Horatio]

 

[djct1999]

Coach K has about as many NBA first-rounders from 2010 to today as he had from 1990 to 2010. His recruiting has changed wholesale since Capel came onto the scene.

This 1000%. It is fairly obvious when Duke made a "philosophical" change in how they approach recruiting.

I will say it again, I don't think there is a single 5 star recruit that doesn't get compensated. This idea that kids will pass up money to play at Duke is hilarious.

 

[2Infinity]

Is DickieV really this naive? I'm sure this was all brought on by making bad hires.

 

[Walker11]

Is DickieV really this naive? I'm sure this was all brought on by making bad hires.

His mental breakdown is going to be uncomfortable as hell when Coach K gets popped.

 

[temery]

His mental breakdown is going to be uncomfortable as hell when Coach K gets popped.

He'll get arrested so he can share a cell with Coach K.

 

[2Infinity]

 

[Walker11]

I realize he probably isn't the most connected basketball journalist in the world but Mark Titus almost bit off his tongue when asked to talk about Coach K and his alleged cheating in an interview I heard this morning.

 

[UConnSwag11]

I realize he probably isn't the most connected basketball journalist in the world but Mark Titus almost bit off his tongue when asked to talk about Coach K and his alleged cheating in an interview I heard this morning.

Audio?

 

[Walker11]

Audio?

On Pardon my Take. Decidedly not a serious show, but he was being serious.

 

[2Infinity]

Makes you wonder how much research the admin did before hiring Padgett.