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I’m not looking at stats.
I’m looking at. I’m up 3 with 3 minutes to go— let’s win this thing. Whether a steal a To into a lay up a good pick— how do we make a play that will seal the deal. To me that’s a big part of coaching— being able to translate will into execution end of game. It’s about the spirit of making winning plays abd it starts wit the coach. No excuses about talent — we’ve up 3 with three minutes left— win. You go 0-6 that’s simply not reasonable.
 
UconnFanDC said:
Hey, his brother has been underachieving over there at AZ State. Idk maybe just maybe we need to start questioning more then the players. :)
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Not fair to judge a coach who inherited a bunch of players who have major flaws in their games. Give him a year or two with all guys that he recruited. If the team is still struggling at that point, it will be telling.

I have a feeling that the correlation between success and having a roster full of Hurley's recruits will be high.
 
UconnFanDC said:
Hey, his brother has been underachieving over there at AZ State. Idk maybe just maybe we need to start questioning more then the players. :)
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Didn't they come back from 22 down and beat Arizona y'day?
 
Fair question no doubt. When you have that many losses which fall under the same timeline and players doing the same thing then what can a coach do to stop that from happening? I like Dan but not finding a way to get a W or 2 when the team is in line to do so in so many games is concerning I don't care really don't want to hear about inheritance of players. This roster is good enough to win more games.
 
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Rico444 said:
I think Hurley is going to bring us back to prominence, I really do. That said, the fact that our three oldest players have regressed pretty severely this year is very concerning.
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Really? I would strongly argue that none of them regressed. They are all playing to their capabilities. I think the problem on here is that too many people had unrealistic expectations. The problem isn't Hurley. The problem isn't the players. The problem is consistent with a total rebuild. It takes time. The fact that we lost 5 games by 20 points is encouraging, not discouraging. It shows that Hurley is installing a new culture and the players are buying in. We are competitive. Two years ago we weren't even that. Why aren't we winning? Maybe because right now we don't have an alpha dog. Its very hard to win games down the stretch without a go to guy. Think about year's past. We had Uncle Cliff, Donyell, Ray. Caron, Rip, Khalid, Emeka, Ben, Rudy, Marcus Williams, Kemba, Bazz, etc, etc, etc. Who do we have now? Sure, Bouknight can easily become that player but he isn't there it. Expecting CV or AG to be that player is unfair. So who can Hurley rely on down the stretch? Who can consistently get us that bucket when we need it most? Thats the problem. Hurley inherited a cupboard that was bare. The good news is that he is replenishing this roster with high major talent. The bad news is we haven't had a roster like that in quite some time. There is not a better coach for this job. The future is as bright as our historic past, no matter how bad it sucks right now.
 
So are Carlton, Vital, and Gilbert the worst starters in the entire conference? Because UConn is 0.5 a game out of last place.
 
djct1999 said:
Really? I would strongly argue that none of them regressed. They are all playing to their capabilities. I think the problem on here is that too many people had unrealistic expectations. The problem isn't Hurley. The problem isn't the players. The problem is consistent with a total rebuild. It takes time. The fact that we lost 5 games by 20 points is encouraging, not discouraging. It shows that Hurley is installing a new culture and the players are buying in. We are competitive. Two years ago we weren't even that. Why aren't we winning? Maybe because right now we don't have an alpha dog. Its very hard to win games down the stretch without a go to guy. Think about year's past. We had Uncle Cliff, Donyell, Ray. Caron, Rip, Khalid, Emeka, Ben, Rudy, Marcus Williams, Kemba, Bazz, etc, etc, etc. Who do we have now? Sure, Bouknight can easily become that player but he isn't there it. Expecting CV or AG to be that player is unfair. So who can Hurley rely on down the stretch? Who can consistently get us that bucket when we need it most? Thats the problem. Hurley inherited a cupboard that was bare. The good news is that he is replenishing this roster with high major talent. The bad news is we haven't had a roster like that in quite some time. There is not a better coach for this job. The future is as bright as our historic past, no matter how bad it sucks right now.
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I threw you a like even though I disagree with your first sentence (Well, second sentence I guess). Carlton has definitely regressed from where he was last year (how many layups has he missed so far?). The other two you could, however, make the case that Jalen Adams moving on has had a much bigger impact than we expected it would've. He was the guy last year, so now that focus shifts onto the other two guards.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
So are Carlton, Vital, and Gilbert the worst starters in the entire conference? Because UConn is 0.5 a game out of last place.
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A strong case could be made that we have the worst starting backcourt in the AAC. If you disagree please present your best argument.
 
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auggie22 said:
A strong case could be made that we have the worst starting backcourt in the AAC. If you disagree please present your best argument.
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Might be easier for you to present your argument first as to why?
 
Scrappy3 said:
I’m not looking at stats.
I’m looking at. I’m up 3 with 3 minutes to go— let’s win this thing. Whether a steal a To into a lay up a good pick— how do we make a play that will seal the deal. To me that’s a big part of coaching— being able to translate will into execution end of game. It’s about the spirit of making winning plays abd it starts wit the coach. No excuses about talent — we’ve up 3 with three minutes left— win. You go 0-6 that’s simply not reasonable.
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Every single one of those things you just asked to happen is not something Hurley can do. This is an insane take
 
CTBasketball said:
Bouk had 4 fouls and we had no answer down low. Worth a shot, they were cold from the arc too.
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Plus, changing defenses coming out of timeouts had worked really well at Houston, and our man defense was even better then.

The reason why the right buttons don't seem to get pushed at the end of the games is that because all 9 of our players are so maddeningly inconsistent that not even JC himself (doesn't matter if you want to read that as Calhoun or Christ) would have any clue what buttons to push coming down the stretch. With this bunch you pays your nickel and you takes your choice.

When the team has individual players that you can count on, even if you can only count on them to do certain things, then come back to me.
 
businesslawyer said:
Plus, changing defenses coming out of timeouts had worked really well at Houston, and our man defense was even better then.

The reason why the right buttons don't seem to get pushed at the end of the games is that because all 9 of our players are so maddeningly inconsistent that not even JC himself (doesn't matter if you want to read that as Calhoun or Christ) would have any clue what buttons to push coming down the stretch. With this bunch you pays your nickel and you takes your choice.

When the team has individual players that you can count on, even if you can only count on them to do certain things, then come back to me.
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I'm really doubting if Hurley was the right hire for Uconn.
 
tower1 said:
I'm really doubting if Hurley was the right hire for Uconn.
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You are wrong. He is instilling that toughness and they do not quit. The terrible shooting is too much to overcome. It sounds like Dan Hurley is starting the transition to the younger players who are much better shooters. He was right not to throw them into the fire right away and have them lose confidence in themselves. It’s a big transition from high school and Dan has let them get accustomed to the college game while taking the heat. He knows exactly what he is doing and is willing to take the criticism from impatient fans. That is called judgement and leadership. Dan is a very good coach and I think will be a GREAT coach for us. Give him a chance.
 
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This is a talent issue man. There's a reason Gilbert did not come back for a large part of the game and Hurley threw in the young boys to gain some valuable experience. I'm sure he realizes this season is over and you should too.
 
“A Season On The Brink”
Feinstein should’ve camped out with this team this year, could’ve had a second best seller.
 
tower1 said:
I'm really doubting if Hurley was the right hire for Uconn.
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He's hasn't proved to be the wrong hire, but he hasn't yet shown he was the perfect hire. We will give him time, but I've written before that recruiting isn't all there is to coaching. If it were, then a certain guy at Kentucky would have a lot more titles.
 
Doctor Hoop said:
He's hasn't proved to be the wrong hire, but he hasn't yet shown he was the perfect hire. We will give him time, but I've written before that recruiting isn't all there is to coaching. If it were, then a certain guy at Kentucky would have a lot more titles.
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Yep and Roy Williams is complaining about his team and he has more talent than us easily. And he looks dreadful as a coach right now.
 
How do you people not see that the future is bright?

A senior, fully-developed Sid Wilson alongside Bouknight, Cole, and Akok would be unreal to see. You can see it in spurts now and it’s like crack.
 
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There is only so much Hurley can do. He wants to win. Unfortunately, up until now it was pretty clear that CV, AG and JC, even with their faults, put us in the best position to win. Gaffney was so nervous early in the season he could barely dribble the ball up court.

We have reached a turning point where this is no longer the case. While the Hurley recruits + Sid (and even Whaley) continue to get better every game, the "leaders" of the team continue to make bad, sometimes lazy, sometimes selfish basketball plays. The lines on the graph have apparently crossed. I think we will see the youngsters going forward.

We wanted a program builder. He's building a program. I don't think you can say he whiffed on anyone he's brought into the program at this point. Give him the time he needs. Watch the games with a view for 2020 and you will be much less upset.
 
sharonT said:
Up to this point, Hurley has made a hugh mistake in evaluating AG. The results of that evaluation tells the story of his first two seasons, cost him two NIT bids.
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You believe AG is the reason for not going to the NIT for 2 seasons? Who should he have gone with since this was the roster he inherited? Let's hear this one and how it's AG only. :rolleyes:
 
mauconnfan said:
Might be easier for you to present your argument first as to why?
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Almost every other starting backcourt we play out scores our starting backcourt, out shoots ours and has less turnovers than ours especially in crunch time.

They also typically know how to break down defenders and are taller and longer.

It’s the first year ever watching a UConn season where I can confidently say our guards are not quite as good as most of our opponents. And please nobody bring HS rankings into the argument. It’s a non factor at this point
 
BFieldHusky said:
It won't be. Keep trying though.
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He doesn’t have to win a national championship. He does have to win games. We haven’t made the tournament in 4 years. If not next year it will be 5. At some point you become DePaul. And if we aren’t at least a bubble team next year one has to wonder if Hurley is really the guy for the job. Lots of successful mid major coaches don’t succeed at the next level. We don’t know yet if Hurley will. There are some good signs but also worrisome ones. If we are struggling to get to .500 next season, losing to bad teams losing every close game, finding ourselves in last place, I know some people will continue to make excuses. But at some point you need to be accountable and remember it is about wins and losses not almosts.
 
UconnFanDC said:
Hey, his brother has been underachieving over there at AZ State. Idk maybe just maybe we need to start questioning more then the players. :)
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LOL. You gonna be in TROUBLE!!! I said he needs to show progress NEXT year and some people got mad.
 
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