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[CoastAtlantic]

Michael DeCourcy ‏@tsnmike 11h11 hours ago
Big 12 shouldn't expand until the league gets its story straighthttp://dlvr.it/LFGfH2

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 4h4 hours ago
@tsnmike Excellent. No network means no expansion. Also add B12 can have the CCG with 10.

Michael DeCourcy ‏@tsnmike 3h3 hours ago
@theDudeofWV I mentioned that. There is literally no other reason to expand

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 2h2 hours ago
@tsnmike Yea. Expansion without a network does more to destabilize the Big 12 than help it.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 2h2 hours ago
@tsnmike But it's moot as long as Texas controls 3 votes.

Storrs South ‏@UConn6thBorough 2h2 hours ago
Storrs South Retweeted Michael Ambrosio

That has nothing to do with what I said and also you don't know what B12 wants but that's a separate conversation

Christopher Lambert‏@theDudeofWV 2h2 hours ago
@UConn6thBorough @Th3_Avi8t0r @MattNecci @jonscannell B12 is first & foremost a football conference. Far and Away...

Storrs South ‏@UConn6thBorough 2h2 hours ago
@theDudeofWV @Th3_Avi8t0r @MattNecci @jonscannell of course but to say that's the sole driver of expansion I would disagree with

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 2h2 hours ago
@UConn6thBorough @Th3_Avi8t0r @MattNecci @jonscannell Revenue and the football playoffs are the only factors that matter to the B12.

Matt Necci ‏@MattNecci 2h2 hours ago Glastonbury, CT
@theDudeofWV @UConn6thBorough @Th3_Avi8t0r @jonscannell I think potential for network is higher priority than you think

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 2h2 hours ago
@MattNecci @UConn6thBorough @Th3_Avi8t0r @jonscannell Me? I doubt a network could be any higher priority in my mind.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 2h2 hours ago
@ChuckCarltonDMN So why hasn't the Big 12 thought about licensing LHN from ESPN & rebroadcasting content on a Big 12 network?

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 2h2 hours ago
@ChuckCarltonDMN The B12 has to make Texas whole anyway. Allow them to keep LHN within Texas & brand it B12N everywhere else.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 2h2 hours ago
@MattNecci @UConn6thBorough @Th3_Avi8t0r @jonscannell No network = no expansion.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 2h2 hours ago
Anyone who says they know what the Big 12 will do is just guessing.

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub 2h2 hours ago
@theDudeofWV some aren't guessing. And it is down to individual schools. B12 isn't much of a "conference" anymore

Christopher Lambert‏@theDudeofWV 1h1 hour ago
@NebGradDubDub What? It's not. Expansion maybe has 5 votes at best. No consensus.

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub 1h1 hour ago
@theDudeofWV lame duck scenario has put leverage in a few hands. No one wants to be in a league with an expiring short term GOR, IMO

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 1h1 hour ago
@NebGradDubDub 7 years.

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub 1h1 hour ago
@theDudeofWV clocks ticking. Who wants to be in a league with only 2-3 yrs left on a GOR. That WILL happen at some point.

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub 1h1 hour ago
@theDudeofWV B12 will only be stable with an extended GOR. Only way that happens is if ESPN/FOX start throwing around money.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 1h1 hour ago
@NebGradDubDub If the B12 expands Fox/ESPN will reopen contract. They will pay more & they will extend the GoR.

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub 1h1 hour ago
@theDudeofWV that MUST happen for B12 to survive. Problem is, OU/KU/UT are better off to "take it to free agency."

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 59m59 minutes ago
@NebGradDubDub Lets not go thru this again. The key is the network. B12 doesn't have much life beyond GoR without it.

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub 56m56 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV no demand for a B12 network. Essentially, the B12 needs it's rights fees replaced and some network gurantees.

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub 55m55 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV B12 is worried that the B10 will get all the OTA fox national games and the good FS1 slots.

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub 52m52 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV B12 is panicking thinking that the league is about to be a filler for fox like MWC/AAC are for ESPN

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub 1h1 hour ago
@theDudeofWV we should know before the end of June what the B12 will do. It's descion time. 2nd B10 contract determines their fate.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 1h1 hour ago
@NebGradDubDub No. It will be late summer or fall before any decisions are made.

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub 1h1 hour ago
@theDudeofWV 1st of July is an important contract date for the B12.

80s Tiger ‏@80sTiger 45m45 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV not true

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 43m43 minutes ago
@80sTiger You are so wrong. But I understand your thought process.

80s Tiger ‏@80sTiger 32m32 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV no disrespect intended. Just disagree.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 31m31 minutes ago
@80sTiger I know. I also know that no decisions have been made & expansion more unlikely than likely at this point.

ristopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 31m31 minutes ago
@80sTiger As long as Texas controls 3 votes & is against expansion it can't happen.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 30m30 minutes ago
@80sTiger I also think that if Texas agrees on expansion the internal debate on who to add will change.

 

[BoatShow]

UCFSports 9:17pm via Twitter for Android
ESPN President John Skipper is UCF's commencement speaker tomorrow. In light of possible Big 12 expansion, brilliant move by Dr. Hitt.

Or UCF is like a half hour from Disney. ..

 

[billybud]

Come on -- even you don't believe that analysis. Before the FSU President could say "Football is the alter at which we worship " (very dramatic by the way), the Trustees would ask "how much?" If the ACC invited Temple (which I already said I have real trouble seeing), it would require finances to demand it.

Temple offers little. Neither does Tulane. Posters saying that Temple could be something a few decades from now if in a P5 conference may be right....but 20-30 years is a long time when the needs are immediate.

The FSU BOT has been pretty clear with Swofford...the ACC knows what is expected by FSU (for what that's worth). The strengthening of football and football schedules.

 

[NYUConn]

Or UCF is like a half hour from Disney. ..

Also not for nothing but commencement speakers are booked like 6 months in advance.

 

[AZHuskiePop]

Ultimately, it's this ^. If the PAC calls this afternoon then guess what? Our away games will start when some east coasters go to bed.

The PAC works for me.

 

[huskymedic]

SportzEdge 8:36pm via WordPress.com
Why UConn should be the only lock for Big 12 expansion (w/ poll)

Some excerpts:

• Memphis - Please. This program has been as irrelevant as a pay phone outside of Blockbuster.'

• Boise State - Really? The Big 12 is going to expand to Idaho? For what reason, exactly? It’s almost exactly the same distance from Dallas as Connecticut is, and you’d need to hire a private investigator to find Boise on a list of top television markets (they’re 111th).

• Tulane - Hahahahahahahaha. Thanks. I needed a good laugh.

 

[BoatShow]

SportzEdge 8:36pm via WordPress.com
Why UConn should be the only lock for Big 12 expansion (w/ poll)

Some excerpts:

• Memphis - Please. This program has been as irrelevant as a pay phone outside of Blockbuster.'

• Boise State - Really? The Big 12 is going to expand to Idaho? For what reason, exactly? It’s almost exactly the same distance from Dallas as Connecticut is, and you’d need to hire a private investigator to find Boise on a list of top television markets (they’re 111th).

• Tulane - Hahahahahahahaha. Thanks. I needed a good laugh.

Well someone on a BYU board clearly got their hands on this.

 

[CL82]

SportzEdge 8:36pm via WordPress.com
Why UConn should be the only lock for Big 12 expansion (w/ poll)

Some excerpts:

• Memphis - Please. This program has been as irrelevant as a pay phone outside of Blockbuster.'

• Boise State - Really? The Big 12 is going to expand to Idaho? For what reason, exactly? It’s almost exactly the same distance from Dallas as Connecticut is, and you’d need to hire a private investigator to find Boise on a list of top television markets (they’re 111th).

• Tulane - Hahahahahahahaha. Thanks. I needed a good laugh.

We need to get on this. Kind of embarrassing to have the lowest vote total on WTNH poll.

 

[Dooley]

We need to get on this. Kind of embarrassing to have the lowest vote total on WTNH poll.

Don't put any stock into that. Looks like someone ran the poll through a macro. BYU has 10K votes and there are 6 or 7 schools that have exactly 687-782 votes. The 782 vote school? Tulane. So yeah, someone ran this through some sort of auto vote macro.

 

[huskymedic]

Don't put any stock into that. Looks like someone ran the poll through a macro. BYU has 10K votes and there are 6 or 7 schools that have exactly 687-782 votes. The 782 vote school? Tulane. So yeah, someone ran this through some sort of auto vote macro.

Thought/realized the same thing but kudos to them...doesn't mean a hoot to the decision makers all said and done but bad optics are bad optics. We'd be crowing up a storm if it was a Provo TV station poll.

 

[huskymedic]

AAC_Fever12:53pm via twitterfeed
Big 12 Expansion Nearing Reality and AAC to Feel Impact -

>>Listen, UConn is going to get swallowed up by a Power 5 conference eventually, why not bring in a school that offers new regional opportunities and two powerhouse basketball programs?<<

 

[UConnTrumbull]

AAC_Fever12:53pm via twitterfeed
Big 12 Expansion Nearing Reality and AAC to Feel Impact -

>>Listen, UConn is going to get swallowed up by a Power 5 conference eventually, why not bring in a school that offers new regional opportunities and two powerhouse basketball programs?<<

I'm stunned that there is a real website called AACFever.com

 

[Dooley]

Thought/realized the same thing but kudos to them...doesn't mean a hoot to the decision makers all said and done but bad optics are bad optics. We'd be crowing up a storm if it was a Provo TV station poll.

Agree. No decision maker ever will say "hmmm Bob, I'm on the fence with this one. I know, let's look at the ABC Connecticut Sports Edge poll".

 

[Matrim55]

I'm stunned that there is a real website called AACFever.com

Unfortunately AAC Fever is terminal. No known cure

 

[UConn Dan]

Unfortunately AAC Fever is terminal. No known cure

 

[huskymedic]

Agree. No decision maker ever will say "hmmm Bob, I'm on the fence with this one. I know, let's look at the ABC Connecticut Sports Edge poll".

Them BYU fans got all riled up over the WTNH story.

sltribbyu 2:32pm via Hootsuite
BYU and the Big 12: What outlets are saying about the Cougs' candidacy

 

[huskypantz]

IMO they don't need to be Philly's team. They just need a presence - which is what they had last year thanks to a pretty good football team. They packed the Linc against Notre Dame and generally got pretty good ratings, and in general they're a good excuse to put X, Y or Z conference network on the top tier of Philly 19k,25TV stations.

Plus the vast, vast majority of their alumni stay in the NY-to-DC megalopolis. Even if they're all sorta Penn State fans instead, that's still a lot of people who will notice when Texas/Michigan/Florida State is in town.

If Temple was a stock I'd buy it.

They had a dynamic season and yet their games against non-PSU/ND were 35k, 31k, 31k, 28k. The prior season was 28k (navy), 19k,25k,22k,23k,21k. This year will be a good test of their drawing power, coming off a great season but with a slate of opponents that are less than appealing. They have their QB and RB back and should be 8-4/9-3. They were over 30k for all but one game. This year, they'll be lucky to hit 30k in half of their games. We'll see what happens, it will be interesting to revisit.

 

[Matrim55]

They had a dynamic season and yet their games against non-PSU/ND were 35k, 31k, 31k, 28k. The prior season was 28k (navy), 19k,25k,22k,23k,21k. This year will be a good test of their drawing power, coming off a great season but with a slate of opponents that are less than appealing. They have their QB and RB back and should be 8-4/9-3. They were over 30k for all but one game. This year, they'll be lucky to hit 30k in half of their games. We'll see what happens, it will be interesting to revisit.

Good post. I suspect they'd enjoy a similar bump in numbers from playing in a new/better conference that we're counting on.

Pitt, 'Cuse, UNC, Virginia, Va Tech, UNC, FSU, Miami... that's pretty damn good. Add in an annual PSU, Maryland or Rutgers OOC, and one of the military schools, and suddenly you're building something with legs.

 

[ElGuapo]

Them BYU fans got all riled up over the WTNH story.

sltribbyu 2:32pm via Hootsuite
BYU and the Big 12: What outlets are saying about the Cougs' candidacy

Why are all of those white kids so smiley when they can't smoke, drink or have sex?
Maybe BYU athletics are that good and fulfilling.

 

[jostar1]

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
BTM: People in Norman feel real good.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
BTM: Texas wants to keep relationship with ESPN for long term...and with Oklahoma University.
To achieve both goals?

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
BTM: OU has strong belief either B12 Reform happens (CCG+EXP+B12N) or Texas decides UT & OU go separate ways (Conf) but keep relationship$

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
BTM: OU has strong belief 10 school B12 with no reform/growth will not hold until 2023.
The reason is very clear....

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
BTM:OU & UT Boosters/buisness interest...huge $...do not want relationship to splinter further apart in 8 years of hell if no reforms happen

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
BTM: OU believes still at this point UT chooses Reform pathway..but if UT choose to stop it....then UT has decided to bolt B12 as well.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
BTM: OU (deep breath) believes current B12 is dead. UT knows current B12 is dead.
Try Reform or Bolt.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
Me: What about the GOR?
BTM: Everyone will need to benefit.
Let me explain.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
BTM: B12, if there is no Reform, will have its most valuable pieces leave.
With support of FOX & ESPN.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
BTM: Texas has options. ACC/INDY and possible SEC options. OU and KU move to Big Ten. Possible other B12 pieces move.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
BTM: It's important to note if this scenario happens B12 would not lose its status of P5...it could not.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
BTM: Texas's goal is to keep its relationship with Disney and not cut itself off from Oklahoma University.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
BTM: Oklahoma's goal is it can't remain in this current B12 state...but it can't afford to cut itself off from Texas.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
BTM: If Texas does not believe it can keep its $ and its Branding component by folding LHN into B12N then mammoth changes will occur in B12

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
BTM: So big change on the ground is Texas will not...does not see themselves trying to maintain B12 status quo for next 8 years if no reform

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
BTM: OU DOES believe they have 7 votes for reform. CINCY paper is 100% correct.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
BTM: FOX & ESPN have OU & UT as their surrogates in Reform talks.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
BTM: If Texas wants to try to make it work in B12...it will be ESPN who they lean on and will take direction from. Same with OU & FOX

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
BTM: On reform OU is now willing to extend GOR "for a few years"...olive branch to Texas.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
BTM: One of UT biggest issues is divisional play set-up. UT would only play Baylor & TCU 2 out of every 4 years.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
BTM: Texas has lots of issues with reform package as the see it coming their way....but they do know current B12 can't hold together.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
BTM: FOX paid lots of $ for 1/2 of B1G package...saw DC, Maryland and New Jersey as huge value grab to their portfolio.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
BTM: FOX wants the same in B12 expansion. FOX wants Florida. But currently ESPN/UT blocking.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
BTM: Cincy/BYU combo to FOX can't pass. OU/Boren loves Cincy & BYU...but won't push it forward.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
BTM: Houston is no longer an option and hasnt been in 2016.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
BTM: So reform is left with Cincy/UCONN or Cincy/Memphis.
Memphis does not have FOX nor ESPN blocking their candidacy on paper.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
BTM: Cincy/UCONN is still considered by Norman to be heavy favorites for expansion if Texas gives it a go.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
BTM: If B12 reform works...it's because new money in multiple ways would have attached themselves to B12.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 1h1 hour ago
BTM:The money is in Cincy & UCONN.
To be blunt.It's also in Orlando. But ESPN at this point won't allow UCF traction in B12 expansion talks

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 1h1 hour ago
Big takeaways:
FOX hell bent on Eastward Expansion if Expansion occurs in B12

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 1h1 hour ago
Texas does not want to fracture Oklahoma relationship in long term in forcing "8 years of hell on Norman" if UT chooses to say no to reform.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 1h1 hour ago
Oklahoma position, according to those in Norman who speak to BTM, has never been stronger...data will continue to make it stronger

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 1h1 hour ago
Again...it needs repeating.
OU still believes (and has since Feb15th)
That reform in B12 will happen...UT will yield at the end of day

 

[Ldandy]

Good post. I suspect they'd enjoy a similar bump in numbers from playing in a new/better conference that we're counting on.

Pitt, 'Cuse, UNC, Virginia, Va Tech, UNC, FSU, Miami... that's pretty damn good. Add in an annual PSU, Maryland or Rutgers OOC, and one of the military schools, and suddenly you're building something with legs.

I actually hope there is a home for Temple at the end of all of this shuffling but I just don't see it. I live in PA, I've lived outside Philly. Temple struggles to get a foothold on support from its own students/alums let alone the non affiliated sports fan in Philly. Temple has been in a conference with many of the schools listed above, and were ultimately thrown out because their fans didn't support the team. I love what Al Golden and later Matt Rhule have accomplished there, but when a major job comes open they are gone. One bad hire + a 2-10 type season and they will be lucky to put 20,000 fans in the seats unless PSU or ND are in town.

 

[CoastAtlantic]

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 42m42 minutes ago
Complicated issues have complicated factors that may seem contradictory but are in really parallel actions that have yet to converge

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 40m40 minutes ago
Meaning the B12's expansion process continues in the hopes that Texas will agree to a network thus making expansion a necessity.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 39m39 minutes ago
Currently everyone who supports expansion understands a network is necessary to make it feasible.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 39m39 minutes ago
So the process continues until Texas gives a definitive answer on the network (and by default expansion).

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 38m38 minutes ago
Texas may be receptive to the BHV report. The data may convince Texas that giving up LHN is the right move - or not.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 37m37 minutes ago
But the process cannot stop as long as Texas is open to options.

david_gibson ‏@BaylorFight 13m13 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV hasn't Texas already spoken? "We'll leave before we get rid of LHN."

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 8m8 minutes ago
@BaylorFight Hope is not certainty. But until the issue has been put to bed hope remains.

Thunder Dome ‏@Stormy0891 29m29 minutes agoHighland, UT
@theDudeofWV now that is a convoluted statement, I'm dizzy

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 7m7 minutes ago
@Stormy0891 Until Texas says no & expansion is voted down those in the Big 12 who favor expansion continue to prepare for expansion.


ME: Hmmm...between him and the Flug some realism setting in about the direction of the B12. Meanwhile...




Randy Watts ‏@randywatts7 13h13 hours ago
@Bluevodreal @morrison1124 still put Big10 expansion at 60%?

Bluevod‏@Bluevodreal
@randywatts7 @morrison1124 maybe a tad higher. To much smoke now. I think we know more after the hailmary meeting of ACC this month.

Genetics56 ‏@Genetics56 10h10 hours ago
@Bluevodreal @randywatts7 @morrison1124 Which grouping is more appealing GA Tech/FSU or Texas/Oklahoma?

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 10h10 hours ago
@Genetics56 @randywatts7 @morrison1124 perfect would be all 4

Randy Watts ‏@randywatts7 7h7 hours ago
@Bluevodreal @Genetics56 @morrison1124 if they don't get a big12 network can Texas & OK get out of GOR? Or are we waiting till 2024?

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 10h10 hours ago
@Genetics56 @randywatts7 @morrison1124 as a fan probably Texas Okl For money GT and FSU but it would be close. Would have to add of $ TV

Dave Lego ‏@Lego1512 9h9 hours ago
@Bluevodreal @Genetics56 @randywatts7 @Morrison11212 Texas & FL bring a lot of $@ and recruits. GT>OK for $ but as a fan I want OK over GT

Genetics56 ‏@Genetics56 8h8 hours ago
@Lego1512 @Bluevodreal @randywatts7 @Morrison11212 How much $$ would this bring? ND, UT, OU & KU to B1G.

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 8h8 hours ago
@Genetics56 @Lego1512 @randywatts7 @Morrison11212 Texas would but other markets not very big. ND is a hard to out $ value.

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 8h8 hours ago
@Genetics56 @Lego1512 @randywatts7 @Morrison11212 Fla, Texas, Atlanta, NC and DC Tv market would be lights out$$$ wise.

Matthew D Carlson ‏@mcgoblue 7h7 hours ago
@Bluevodreal @Genetics56 @Lego1512 @randywatts7 @Morrison11212 would the Tar Heels recent issues cause any problems with expansion?

Dave Lego ‏@Lego1512 7h7 hours ago
@mcgoblue @Bluevodreal @Genetics56 @randywatts7 @Morrison11212 I don't have any real sources but word on the street is it could

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 7h7 hours ago
@Lego1512 @mcgoblue @Genetics56 @randywatts7 @Morrison11212 yes there is real concern.

Corneilus Green ‏@CGreen63 7h7 hours ago
@Bluevodreal Do you really think ESPN has reversed course and will start ACC Network? I don't believe it

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 7h7 hours ago
@CGreen63 I do not believe it either. It would be a shocker and a head scratcher on why. They have network need content .

Corneilus Green ‏@CGreen63 7h7 hours ago
@Bluevodreal Only Delany and Goodell dictate to ESPN

Corneilus Green ‏@CGreen63 7h7 hours ago
@Bluevodreal Swofford ain't stupid to dictate to ESPN

Corneilus Green ‏@CGreen63 7h7 hours ago
@Bluevodreal Sounds like people want it to happen and people the ACC huffed and puffed to ESPN

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 7h7 hours ago
@CGreen63 if they do/ have changed mind it would lead me to think they lost the 2nd rights to Big10.

Corneilus Green ‏@CGreen63 1h1 hour ago
@Bluevodreal I highly doubt that but anything is possible

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 53m53 minutes ago
@CGreen63 I agree they have to secure the 2rights or ESPN is in deep trouble.

Corneilus Green ‏@CGreen63 51m51 minutes ago
@Bluevodreal ESPN should know Delany has rolled the dice twice and he's come out better and having a competitor in Fox

jessicalarson ‏@sooner2016 50m50 minutes ago
@CGreen63 @Bluevodreal Yep, and NBC and FOX will help land expansion schools.I suspect Tim Brando's tweet was leaked on purpose.

Corneilus Green ‏@CGreen63 49m49 minutes ago
@sooner2016 @Bluevodreal I think Brando was on something

Nathan Brice ‏@NathanBrice3000 7h7 hours ago
@Bluevodreal Would Texas and Oklahoma take any other Big XII schools with them?

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 7h7 hours ago
@NathanBrice3000 I doubt Big10 wants anyother than those two.

Nathan Brice ‏@NathanBrice3000 7h7 hours ago
@Bluevodreal Would they then go Notre Dame, Florida State, GT, and ?????

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 7h7 hours ago
@NathanBrice3000 yes plus UVA and possibly NC

Nathan Brice ‏@NathanBrice3000 7h7 hours ago
@Bluevodreal Would ESPN possibly choose to either keep the Big Ten or start an ACC Network?

Bluevod ‏@Bluevodreal 7h7 hours ago
@NathanBrice3000 maybe but it would not be their choice just they got outbid.


ME: Good gawd!

 

[CoastAtlantic]

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 6h6 hours ago
Even ESPN is saying BYUtv would be a problem with a B12N
What the Big 12's expansion wish list should look like

Antonio ‏@AntonioATX May 6
@MH ver3 is SDSU on the radar if they add BYU?

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 6h6 hours ago
@AntonioATX unfortunately no. California would be great for recruiting and TV but talk about an outlier.

Flying T ‏@TAZERFL0YD 4h4 hours agoHamilton, TX
@Bluevodreal @MH ver3 @flugempire Predictions on where TCU is in 8 years? http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaaf/eye-on-college-football/25579532/friday-five-the-most-attractive-big-12-schools-to-the-rest-of-the-power-five…

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 2h2 hours ago
@TAZERFL0YD @Bluevodreal @flugempire imagine that:a story biased against B12 that is by a network that has no B12 programming

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 2h2 hours ago
Here's what's getting on my nerves

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 2h2 hours ago
I've kept people informed for years of the goings on in this entire process

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 2h2 hours ago
I've been called everything imaginable. Troll, liar, crazy-you name it

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 2h2 hours ago
But here we are on the tip of the cliff about to plunge off and I'm still getting the same vitriol from people.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 2h2 hours ago
I've been ahead of the national media on all this yet still get mountains of crap

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 2h2 hours ago
Rant over.

RodneyRuxin ‏@DevonEIARR 2h2 hours ago
@MH ver3 any concrete idea on front runners??

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 2h2 hours ago
@DevonEIARR just what I'm hearing from WVU. Most likely UC and Uconn in all sports. Possibly BYU and UCF in football.

RodneyRuxin ‏@DevonEIARR 2h2 hours ago
@MH ver3 interesting so would we be a 12 or 14 team conference if BYU and UCF are just football?

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 2h2 hours ago
@DevonEIARR 13?

Chad Bailiff ‏@Cjbay26 2h2 hours ago
@MH ver3 block them out

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 2h2 hours ago
@Cjbay26 I just needed some steam release. @HoppyKercheval knows what I mean.

Chad Bailiff ‏@Cjbay26 2h2 hours ago
@MH ver3 @HoppyKercheval I understand..gotta vent sometimes

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 2h2 hours ago
@Cjbay26 nope. Let them talk. When we finally do expand they will just say things like "even a stopped clock is right twice a day"

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 2h2 hours ago
@Cjbay26 it's a hate the messenger/shoot the messenger type thing.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 2h2 hours ago
@Cjbay26 most of them are just mad their team won't get in

Omega Supreme ‏@OmegaSupreme914 2h2 hours ago
@MH ver3 You receive no flack from me.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 2h2 hours ago
@OmegaSupreme914 you're one of my OG.

Omega Supreme ‏@OmegaSupreme914 2h2 hours ago
@MH ver3 no doubt


ME: Oh, my! The bright lights of fame must be getting to him.

 

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Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 11h11 hours ago
Nice to meet you Colorado State. How are you?

WVU.Matt ‏@bagelknot 22h22 hours agoFlorida, USA
@theDudeofWV I haven't said much to u lately. But, ur wrong on this. The Big 12 will expand, and soon. I don't like it, but it's happening.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 11h11 hours ago
@bagelknot Texas has the votes in hand to block expansion.

Martin borg ‏@Martyaborg 10h10 hours ago
@theDudeofWV is CSU and BYU seen as a package or individual in teams of big 12 expansion thinking?

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 9h9 hours ago
@Martyaborg No idea.

Omega Supreme ‏@OmegaSupreme914 12h12 hours ago
@flugempire So what about the media rights deals and unfinished deals

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 9h9 hours ago
@OmegaSupreme914 @Expansion_Crush Your much better off subscribing to the Sports Business Journal than asking @flugempire.

Andy smith ‏@Doctor_alesmith 8h8 hours agoShaker Heights, OH
@theDudeofWV @OmegaSupreme914 @Expansion_Crush @flugempire why scribe they tweet out all their good stuff for free

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
@Doctor_alesmith @OmegaSupreme914 @Expansion_Crush Not really. You get details and alerts. They know first.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 11h11 hours ago
@OmegaSupreme914 We didn't even talk about it...honestly everything was rushed. We had to move up dinner 2 hours b/c of BTM schedule.

Brooke ‏@brooke322 10h10 hours ago
@flugempire what's GOR?

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 9h9 hours ago
@brooke322 Grant Of Rights.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 11h11 hours ago
@OmegaSupreme914 Sorry man, only real nugget from last night was if UT doesn't go forward with B12 Reform it indicates UT is adios as well

Chuck CarltonVerified account‏@ChuckCarltonDMN
Things evolve, fairly or not. Look at the Big East 10 years ago in football. Five of the eight are in power 5 conferences now.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 8h8 hours ago
@ChuckCarltonDMN BC, Pitt, Miami, VT, WVU, Syracuse, Louisville & Rutgers. All Big East at one time.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
I know I'm going to regret this but I'm curious what Flugar is saying about the Big 12.

Stuart Waugh ‏@sg2waugh 7h7 hours ago
@theDudeofWV Summary UT values OU Fox= OU, ESPN= UT OU likes BYU/Cincy, Fox no Fox likes UCF, ESPN no Orlando Cincy +UConn ahead of +Memphis

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
@sg2waugh Plus expansion not possible without network. Texas has votes to block expansion. No decision until late summer.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
@sg2waugh Big 12 composition committee has no order of preference other than at least 1 in the east.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
@sg2waugh Fox & ESPN have no say. UCF & Memphis are out. Cincy, BYU, CSU, UCONN the finalists.

Stuart Waugh ‏@sg2waugh 7h7 hours ago
@theDudeofWV I disagree, media ($ talks) has a voice that is heard. right on one thing. It's all about OU-UT relationship, rest pawns

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
@sg2waugh The B12's TV contract has a clause that maintains average payout no matter who is added.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
@sg2waugh Plus remember ESPN's reaction when BC said that ESPN told them who to add?

Stuart Waugh ‏@sg2waugh 7h7 hours ago
@theDudeofWV Plausible deniability Never write down what can be said in person, never speak what a nod can say

Christopher Lambert‏@theDudeofWV
@sg2waugh Finally ESPN & Fox advised the Big 12 who to add in 2012: nobody.

Stuart Waugh ‏@sg2waugh 7h7 hours ago
@theDudeofWV I was giving a summary of what he said. I gave no opinion on the content

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
@sg2waugh Yea. I corrected him. Thanks for the efficient summary.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
@sg2waugh I wonder what happened to UC/UCONN being a lock. Or Houston...

Stuart Waugh ‏@sg2waugh 7h7 hours ago
@theDudeofWV I still wonder does anything keep OU, KU, UT in B12 after 2024? Any expansion really depends on B12N happening to pay for it

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
@sg2waugh The truth is UT & OU are immune. UT was #2 & OU #8 in revenue last year.

Shawn Bayliss ‏@Smtbay1 7h7 hours ago
@theDudeofWV @sg2waugh my fear is that the big 12 jettisons WVU and moves west by adding the byu, bsu and csu

Stuart Waugh ‏@sg2waugh 7h7 hours ago
@theDudeofWV That's why it's all about their relationship. The $ is BS to both. If they don't get along they'll go their separate ways.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
Is he still saying BYU is out & UCONN & Cincy are locks? Or has the B1G targeted the B12 now instead of the ACC?

Thunder Dome ‏@Stormy0891 5h5 hours agoHighland, UT
@theDudeofWV @sg2waugh not according to former commissioner, wvu was recommended over byu

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 2h2 hours ago
@Stormy0891 @sg2waugh That was 2011.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 6h6 hours ago
Hartford Courant: 1/2 "They know who we are and what we are," one UConn official said. "They have all our stats."

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 6h6 hours ago
Hartford Courant: 2/2 "They know more about us than we know about us and they have consultants updating that."

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 5h5 hours ago
http://m.omaha.com/news/education/under-perlman-unl-set-bigger-goals-that-paid-off-in/article_91c28227-c0f2-5105-9e9f-24ba7ab0ccff.html?mode=jqm… #nebraska #bigten

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub 4h4 hours ago
Doug Retweeted Greg Flugaur

Tell me Boren doesn't want the adoration at OU

Bill ‏@IrishBillATL 7h7 hours ago
@MH ver3 is Colorado State not even in the discussion?

MH ver3 ‏@MHver3 6h6 hours ago
@IrishBillATL you know they actually are. They weren't in the top schools discussed but there is support for them with ISU and a few more.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 6h6 hours ago
Could we see a B12N without the Longhorns? Fox has proposed that very idea to Boren and Gee.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 6h6 hours ago
What would the ramifications be of a B12N without UT?

Storrs South ‏@UConn6thBorough 6h6 hours ago
@MH ver3 an even more dysfunctional conference

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 6h6 hours ago
@UConn6thBorough i tend to agree. And one UT would probably eventually leave.

Storrs South ‏@UConn6thBorough 6h6 hours ago
@MH ver3 when UT plays other teams in conference there would be two networks covering the game? Yuck.

MH ver3 ‏@MHver3 6h6 hours ago
For one, Fox favors adding a school in Florida and Cincy. Also fox is keen on Uconn as they are right in ESPN's backyard.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 6h6 hours ago
Fox is lukewarm to BYU

 

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[MHver3 Also, FOX is keen on UConn as they are right in ESPN's backyard.]

This go-round feels a lot different, doesn't it? In this CR environment "money" would likely overcome the kind of petty rationale used to keep us out before (like BC envy or Blumenthal). Our incremental value lies squarely in our location. It's about a TV network looking to gain traction and either keep---or seek a competitive advantage in the NYC/NE market, coupled with the strategic maneuvering of one conference looking to either extend its reach---or foreclose the penetration of another into this eyeball lucrative area. That's the reason (beyond the purely athletic) we are near the top of the list. It makes it all the more puzzling why the ACC and B1G along with ESPN would leave us dangling as low fruit and allow the Big XII/FOX to gain a foothold here.