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[businesslawyer]

another team that will give you DC is Navy and UCONN to bridge the gap

Navy does not give you DC or Maryland -- it's a small presence in the market. Navy's students come from all over the U.S. And they disperse after graduating all over the world. It is not an important part of the DC market. If it were, it's football games wouldn't be broadcast on what is literally the lowest rated station in the DC market.

 

[businesslawyer]

Temple? No freekin' way.

I don't think that Swofford could get all the Presidents to sign a new GOR....much less with a Temple add.

FSU is already in the fool me once mode and Clemson and a couple of others may be there with them.

I doubt if he would whisper the word "Temple" to the FSU BOT...he would get a whiff of the tar cauldron in the back of the room, spot the pile of old pillows, and clear his throat...and say..."As I was saying, football is the temple at which we worship. Let me be clear."

Come on -- even you don't believe that analysis. Before the FSU President could say "Football is the alter at which we worship " (very dramatic by the way), the Trustees would ask "how much?" If the ACC invited Temple (which I already said I have real trouble seeing), it would require finances to demand it.

 

[CL82]

Who in the hell is Jim@aol? I'm excited for this rumor, don't get me wrong; I would LOVE to be back with a bunch of our old Big East rivals. I'm just wondering where this rumor came from.

Don't know, but I have seen his name on Landthieves and the VaTech board. His logic seems a little tighter than the average conference realignment nut. Could be nothing, or it could be a leak of actual info. There's no way to tell until after the fact.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Temple? No freekin' way.

I don't think that Swofford could get all the Presidents to sign a new GOR....much less with a Temple add.

FSU is already in the fool me once mode and Clemson and a couple of others may be there with them.

I doubt if he would whisper the word "Temple" to the FSU BOT...he would get a whiff of the tar cauldron in the back of the room, spot the pile of old pillows, and clear his throat...and say..."As I was saying, football is the temple at which we worship. Let me be clear."

Look I understand the gut reaction of a college football guy in the south. But if you omit history for a moment (and history relating to FSU as a former women's college certainly didn't predict success) and started with a blank slate, how would you rate:

Pubic school in Philadelphia, enrollment is 38k {access to good recruiting in PA and NJ}
Private school in Boston, enrollment is 14k
Private school in small city in NC, enrollment is 7500
Public engineering school in Atlanta, enrollment is 24k
Public school in Louisville, enrollment 22k.
Private school in Miami, enrollement 16k

You can pretend that there is some actual reason why Temple can't be a football power, but the reality is that there is none. They were pretty good last year and probably have pretty significant upside, although it may never be realized.

 

[businesslawyer]

Look I understand the gut reaction of a college football guy in the south. But if you omit history for a moment (and history relating to FSU as a former women's college certainly didn't predict success) and started with a blank slate, how would you rate:

Pubic school in Philadelphia, enrollment is 38k {access to good recruiting in PA and NJ}
Private school in Boston, enrollment is 14k
Private school in small city in NC, enrollment is 7500
Public engineering school in Atlanta, enrollment is 24k
Public school in Louisville, enrollment 22k.
Private school in Miami, enrollement 16k

You can pretend that there is some actual reason why Temple can't be a football power, but the reality is that there is none. They were pretty good last year and probably have pretty significant upside, although it may never be realized.

There are in fact reasons that Temple can't be a football power. They do not have a fan base outside of students and alumni (like Houston), and therefore they do not have the financial support to do what needs to be done by way of facilities. Nor do they have the support in Harrisburgh for the statewide taxpayers to give them the funds to be an athletic power.

 

[NYUConn]

There are in fact reasons that Temple can't be a football power. They do not have a fan base outside of students and alumni (like Houston), and therefore they do not have the financial support to do what needs to be done by way of facilities. Nor do they have the support in Harrisburgh for the statewide taxpayers to give them the funds to be an athletic power.

I agree with everything you said, but Houston may not be the best example given they have been a power in the past and are coming off a 13-1 Peach Bowl title run.

I would say they are more similar to USF or UCF.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Debra from Facebook and jim@aol deserve a slow clap for some grade A trolling. Nice work.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

There are in fact reasons that Temple can't be a football power. They do not have a fan base outside of students and alumni (like Houston), and therefore they do not have the financial support to do what needs to be done by way of facilities. Nor do they have the support in Harrisburgh for the statewide taxpayers to give them the funds to be an athletic power.

Was that on campus stadium just a proposal or something in the works?

If Temple got into a better league, with their recent success and a new stadium I could see them gaining some traction, especially in Eastern PA.

Not that we didn't all know this year's ago, but the latest Joe Fraud news coming out certainly can't help the casual Penn State fan (not the cult alumni or townies). Maybe temple steps up and becomes the football team in Philly?

 

[SECONN]

Is Memphis right for Big 12 expansion?

barry debunking the memphis choice.......sticking with him that UCONN is one of the schools if there is expansion

 

[NYUConn]

Was that on campus stadium just a proposal or something in the works?

If Temple got into a better league, with their recent success and a new stadium I could see them gaining some traction, especially in Eastern PA.

Not that we didn't all know this year's ago, but the latest Joe Fraud news coming out certainly can't help the casual Penn State fan (not the cult alumni or townies). Maybe temple steps up and becomes the football team in Philly?

I think the NCAA has made it perfectly clear that we could find out that Joe Pa was working with Ted Cruz's dad to take out JFK and Penn State football would still go untouched.

 

[HuskyHawk]

There are in fact reasons that Temple can't be a football power. They do not have a fan base outside of students and alumni (like Houston), and therefore they do not have the financial support to do what needs to be done by way of facilities. Nor do they have the support in Harrisburgh for the statewide taxpayers to give them the funds to be an athletic power.

I'm not saying there are no roadblocks, all schools have those. Cinci has same issues as well, it's similar in many ways. But if Temple was in a league that made them profitable, they could gain enough support to become something. Meanwhile, WF really never can, and yet it's already in the league. I'm not saying they should be added, merely that dismissing Temple as a ridiculous choice, as Billy did, ignores some obvious advantages they hold even over some current ACC schools.

 

[Marty Jackson]

this reads like the last 3 years of the boneyard boiled into one article. Even takes shots at PP and Hathaway.

 

[Point6]

• There are 5,367,675 people in the U.S. with the first name James. Just sayin'

Don't know, but I have seen his name on Landthieves and the VaTech board. His logic seems a little tighter than the average conference realignment nut. Could be nothing, or it could be a leak of actual info. There's no way to tell until after the fact.

By googling around twitter, conspiracy kitty might have run into this dude: Jim Norton | AOL Advertising

Of course, the poster may have nothing to do with this dude and/or could be pretending to be this dude or could just be a BC super troll.

If conspiracy kitty was really on his/her (do we know?) game, he/she would have looked at this dude's twitter to see if any Debras follow him. Kitty might get at least one hit that way - another social media exec who, even if she looks a little like Debra@facebook, I'm sure has nothing to do with anything given she is a Florida/SEC fan.

 

[CL82]

By googling around twitter, conspiracy kitty might have run into this dude: Jim Norton | AOL Advertising

Of course, the poster may have nothing to do with this dude and/or could be pretending to be this dude or could just be a BC super troll.

If conspiracy kitty was really on his/her (do we know?) game, he/she would have looked at this dude's twitter to see if any Debras follow him. Kitty might get at least one hit that way - another social media exec who, even if she looks a little like Debra@facebook, I'm sure has nothing to do with anything given she is a Florida/SEC fan.

Interesting. He's a BC grad. Does that mean that he has actual ACC connections? Probably not.

He did work at Tribune Broadcasting and HuffPo so I guess it is possible he know someone who knows something. Here's his Twitter. Top picture is him with Magic Johnson.

Anyway he kind of looks douchy. Actual picture:

Jim from AOL or Boone from Animal House?

 

[TRest]

Interesting. He's a BC grad. Does that mean that he has actual ACC connections? Probably not.

He did work at Tribune Broadcasting and HuffPo so I guess it is possible he know someone who knows something. Here's his Twitter. Top picture is him with Magic Johnson.

Anyway he kind of looks douchy. Actual picture:
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Jim from AOL or Boone from Animal House?

If he's a BC grad he's definitely trolling. The Douchey aspect is self-explanatory.

 

[jostar1]

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
I read the @dennisdoddcbs article on B12 Expansion candidates and at the end it dawned on me I will never get back those precious 3 minutes

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
@dennisdoddcbs is the last person in the room who figured out B12 was expanding...and now he thinks it's about obtaining best FB programs.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
Although it figures because @dennisdoddcbs thought it was a joke Delany brought on Rutgers and Maryland into the Big Ten Conference.

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 2h2 hours ago
Big 12 Expansion has to be about bringing in new markets...markets with $...markets that will pay for B12 product...with "B12" Academics

 

[huskypantz]

Was that on campus stadium just a proposal or something in the works?

If Temple got into a better league, with their recent success and a new stadium I could see them gaining some traction, especially in Eastern PA.

Not that we didn't all know this year's ago, but the latest Joe Fraud news coming out certainly can't help the casual Penn State fan (not the cult alumni or townies). Maybe temple steps up and becomes the football team in Philly?

Temple's problem is similar to BC's. Heavy sports market where the Eagles are a year-round sports conversation. Sixers and Flyers get their share and then the Phillies get the summer spotlight. The problem is the college scene. Of the fans interested in college football, most are going to gravitate toward PSU. Of the other college sports fans, they're probably going to to be Big5/6 alum and fans, which makes it a little tougher to root for Temple. The reality is that Temple is never going to be Philly's team. If they could string together a number of seasons ranked where they're above PSU and the Eagles are horrible, they can get a little more traction. But what is gained is so easily lost there. It's not impossible but it will take years of sustained excellence to really establish something.

 

[huskymedic]

UCFSports 9:17pm via Twitter for Android
ESPN President John Skipper is UCF's commencement speaker tomorrow. In light of possible Big 12 expansion, brilliant move by Dr. Hitt.

 

[caw]

Adding UConn and Temple to the ACC is way to logical for CR

And it breaks rule number one...

 

[huskypantz]

UCFSports 9:17pm via Twitter for Android
ESPN President John Skipper is UCF's commencement speaker tomorrow. In light of possible Big 12 expansion, brilliant move by Dr. Hitt.

How did he connect those dots? Dear lord.

 

[Matrim55]

The reality is that Temple is never going to be Philly's team.

IMO they don't need to be Philly's team. They just need a presence - which is what they had last year thanks to a pretty good football team. They packed the Linc against Notre Dame and generally got pretty good ratings, and in general they're a good excuse to put X, Y or Z conference network on the top tier of Philly TV stations.

Plus the vast, vast majority of their alumni stay in the NY-to-DC megalopolis. Even if they're all sorta Penn State fans instead, that's still a lot of people who will notice when Texas/Michigan/Florida State is in town.

If Temple was a stock I'd buy it.

 

[CoastAtlantic]

Michael DeCourcy ‏@tsnmike 11h11 hours ago
Big 12 shouldn't expand until the league gets its story straighthttp://dlvr.it/LFGfH2

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 4h4 hours ago
@tsnmike Excellent. No network means no expansion. Also add B12 can have the CCG with 10.

Michael DeCourcy ‏@tsnmike 3h3 hours ago
@theDudeofWV I mentioned that. There is literally no other reason to expand

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 2h2 hours ago
@tsnmike Yea. Expansion without a network does more to destabilize the Big 12 than help it.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 2h2 hours ago
@tsnmike But it's moot as long as Texas controls 3 votes.

Storrs South ‏@UConn6thBorough 2h2 hours ago
Storrs South Retweeted Michael Ambrosio

That has nothing to do with what I said and also you don't know what B12 wants but that's a separate conversation

Christopher Lambert‏@theDudeofWV 2h2 hours ago
@UConn6thBorough @Th3_Avi8t0r @MattNecci @jonscannell B12 is first & foremost a football conference. Far and Away...

Storrs South ‏@UConn6thBorough 2h2 hours ago
@theDudeofWV @Th3_Avi8t0r @MattNecci @jonscannell of course but to say that's the sole driver of expansion I would disagree with

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 2h2 hours ago
@UConn6thBorough @Th3_Avi8t0r @MattNecci @jonscannell Revenue and the football playoffs are the only factors that matter to the B12.

Matt Necci ‏@MattNecci 2h2 hours ago Glastonbury, CT
@theDudeofWV @UConn6thBorough @Th3_Avi8t0r @jonscannell I think potential for network is higher priority than you think

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 2h2 hours ago
@MattNecci @UConn6thBorough @Th3_Avi8t0r @jonscannell Me? I doubt a network could be any higher priority in my mind.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 2h2 hours ago
@ChuckCarltonDMN So why hasn't the Big 12 thought about licensing LHN from ESPN & rebroadcasting content on a Big 12 network?

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 2h2 hours ago
@ChuckCarltonDMN The B12 has to make Texas whole anyway. Allow them to keep LHN within Texas & brand it B12N everywhere else.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 2h2 hours ago
@MattNecci @UConn6thBorough @Th3_Avi8t0r @jonscannell No network = no expansion.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 2h2 hours ago
Anyone who says they know what the Big 12 will do is just guessing.

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub 2h2 hours ago
@theDudeofWV some aren't guessing. And it is down to individual schools. B12 isn't much of a "conference" anymore

Christopher Lambert‏@theDudeofWV 1h1 hour ago
@NebGradDubDub What? It's not. Expansion maybe has 5 votes at best. No consensus.

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub 1h1 hour ago
@theDudeofWV lame duck scenario has put leverage in a few hands. No one wants to be in a league with an expiring short term GOR, IMO

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 1h1 hour ago
@NebGradDubDub 7 years.

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub 1h1 hour ago
@theDudeofWV clocks ticking. Who wants to be in a league with only 2-3 yrs left on a GOR. That WILL happen at some point.

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub 1h1 hour ago
@theDudeofWV B12 will only be stable with an extended GOR. Only way that happens is if ESPN/FOX start throwing around money.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 1h1 hour ago
@NebGradDubDub If the B12 expands Fox/ESPN will reopen contract. They will pay more & they will extend the GoR.

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub 1h1 hour ago
@theDudeofWV that MUST happen for B12 to survive. Problem is, OU/KU/UT are better off to "take it to free agency."

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 59m59 minutes ago
@NebGradDubDub Lets not go thru this again. The key is the network. B12 doesn't have much life beyond GoR without it.

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub 56m56 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV no demand for a B12 network. Essentially, the B12 needs it's rights fees replaced and some network gurantees.

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub 55m55 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV B12 is worried that the B10 will get all the OTA fox national games and the good FS1 slots.

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub 52m52 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV B12 is panicking thinking that the league is about to be a filler for fox like MWC/AAC are for ESPN

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub 1h1 hour ago
@theDudeofWV we should know before the end of June what the B12 will do. It's descion time. 2nd B10 contract determines their fate.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 1h1 hour ago
@NebGradDubDub No. It will be late summer or fall before any decisions are made.

Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub 1h1 hour ago
@theDudeofWV 1st of July is an important contract date for the B12.

80s Tiger ‏@80sTiger 45m45 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV not true

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 43m43 minutes ago
@80sTiger You are so wrong. But I understand your thought process.

80s Tiger ‏@80sTiger 32m32 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV no disrespect intended. Just disagree.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 31m31 minutes ago
@80sTiger I know. I also know that no decisions have been made & expansion more unlikely than likely at this point.

ristopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 31m31 minutes ago
@80sTiger As long as Texas controls 3 votes & is against expansion it can't happen.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 30m30 minutes ago
@80sTiger I also think that if Texas agrees on expansion the internal debate on who to add will change.

 

[BoatShow]

UCFSports 9:17pm via Twitter for Android
ESPN President John Skipper is UCF's commencement speaker tomorrow. In light of possible Big 12 expansion, brilliant move by Dr. Hitt.

Or UCF is like a half hour from Disney. ..

 

[billybud]

Come on -- even you don't believe that analysis. Before the FSU President could say "Football is the alter at which we worship " (very dramatic by the way), the Trustees would ask "how much?" If the ACC invited Temple (which I already said I have real trouble seeing), it would require finances to demand it.

Temple offers little. Neither does Tulane. Posters saying that Temple could be something a few decades from now if in a P5 conference may be right....but 20-30 years is a long time when the needs are immediate.

The FSU BOT has been pretty clear with Swofford...the ACC knows what is expected by FSU (for what that's worth). The strengthening of football and football schedules.

 

[NYUConn]

Or UCF is like a half hour from Disney. ..

Also not for nothing but commencement speakers are booked like 6 months in advance.