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UCONN13KC said:
Texas and Oklahoma leaving. Big 12 backfilling with SMU and Tulsa.
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Wrong, they are backfilling with LSU and Arkansas. The Moonshine Twitterati has been hinting that Arkansas has been dying to get back in so they can recruit Texas better and LSU is so unhappy with with their scheduling. Hinted that Texas better be careful as leaving the Texas conference will hinder their ability to recruit Texas.

Many Bothian spies died from moonshine poisoning to bring us this info.
 
I got angry reading that tweet once I realized that we are one of the G5 teams they're referring to. We are not G5. We just aren't. I do not care what some arbitrary conference affiliation designation says.
 
jostar1 said:
The Big 12 has contacted FSU, Clemson, Miami, and Pitt. The Big 12 is fighting for survival. (Last summer he was saying that everything was hunky-dory in the Big 12).
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Trying to 'break' the ACC GOR would be risky for the XII as if the ACC's GOR can be broken, then the XII's can be broken. The XII is better of expanding to 12 with UConn and Cincy or BYU, allowing it to have a FCG and then fold the LHN into a XII Network. If the XII can get a network in place before the ACC, it wins and the ACC will fall apart on its own in the '20's when the current GOR expires naturally.
 
Anyone think the University of Houston could go to the ACC? The ACC has been looking to expand in Texas and they were looking at the Longhorns. Houston and Notre Dame to make 16 in the ACC?
 
Per Dude, I am not sure why the B12 is limiting itself to only FSU, Clemson, Miami and Pitt. The B12 should ask Bama and LSU as well. Hell, the B12 should ask every team in the other P5 conferences. The answer will be the same, "thanks but no"...no one is leaving their conferences for the B12. There is a reason the B12 is the 5th strongest P5 conference.

This is nothing more than the B12 pandering to their fanbases. I am sure there are a ton of unreasonable B12 alumni who still believe the B12 is an attractive conference. Sometimes it takes someone (or in this case every other P5 program) telling you that you are ugly before it finally sets in...and the current B12 is ugly.

The Big12 can still outflank the ACC but it is going to need to build a network before they can poach ACC teams. That means adding current G5 programs and no one adds more network possibilities than UConn. The irony is neither Miami or Pitt would immediately help the B12 build a network as much as UConn.

Denial is an ugly emotion...the B12 will get there eventually.
 
MH ver3‏@MH ver3
If B12 offers 2 ACC schools a financial package that guarantees $100m more over 5 years-do they bite and leave first?We may find out soon

Martin borg ‏@Martyaborg
@MH ver3 ESPN wants uconn and byu in big 12 as 11&12. Waiting on fox network agreement. Big 12 will go to 14 with fox input on 13&14. UCF?

MH ver3‏@MH ver3
@Martyaborg getting VT/FSU/Clemson/NCST into B12 SEC actually becomes a wash $-wise

MH ver3‏@MH ver3
@Martyaborg ESPN is going to lose Duke/UNC bball to B10 and Fox. Protecting what they can with ACC football is priority

MH ver3‏@MH ver3
$100m more than current ACC TV monies over a 5 year span. Nearly double what they make now.
7:39 PM - 25 Feb 2016

Bearcat's Fan ‏@Beacatbballfan 3h3 hours ago
@MH ver3 are they going to offer this as a first choice rather than expanding with AAC schools and waiting on ACC to implode later?

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 2h2 hours ago
@Beacatbballfan the network is absolutely dependent on adding Uconn market and Ohio market.

Martin borg ‏@Martyaborg 3h3 hours ago
@MH ver3 ESPN won't back it, won't break up ACC like that. And don't forget who's giving the big 12 their network..ESPN.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 2h2 hours ago
@Martyaborg ESPN sees the handwriting on the wall regarding B10 contract and ACC defections.

Bearcat's Fan ‏@Beacatbballfan 3h3 hours ago
@MH ver3 also if uc and uconn end up staying why wouldn't AAC continue with expansion in an attempt to lessen gap b/w them an Power 5?


ME: Extra Special Moonshine being passed around now. :D
 
BoatShow said:
Let them take PITT and Cincy. We'll gladly take that ACC spot. If Pitt leaves the ACC would anyone notice??
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Pitt is one school which seems to receive not nearly enough criticism. Its hoops program rode the tails of the Big East to having a pretty good program for a while, then participating in the lawsuit against BC and the ACC, then luckily tagging along with SU to the ACC. It deserves at least a token blast once in a while.

But to answer the question, no, no one would notice. Pitt to the Big 12 with its rival WVU and UCONN to the ACC would make a ton of sense which is why, not gonna happen.
 
He recycled some old stuff........The Big 12 has reached out to FSU, Clemson, Miami, and Pitt to join the conference together.

My great aunt used to swear that she received radio signals through her amalgam fillings, but that the transmissions were garbled.

The Dude, I think, has no such excuse. He makes things up to maintain his life in cyberspace.
 
First of all, nobody is leaving a P5 conference for the Big 12 right now. That's insane. The Big 12 is the weakest of the P5 conferences on the field and in terms of monetary value it's lagging far behind the SEC, B1G and even the ACC at the moment. Without a network in place you basically have a dysfunctional conference where UT is making money hand over fist and Oklahoma has one foot out the door.

Secondly (and this is more opinion than fact), in the unlikely event that the ACC loses 2 teams to the Big 12, you really think they are going to backfill? They clearly don't value us and if they lose two major football brands (FSU/Clemson) you think they are going to rush to replace them with two basketball brands (UConn and Cincy)? No way, my guess is they stay at 12(13) and keep their current TV deal for the next few years, get richer and then the remaining brand name schools bolt for greener pastures in the B1G, SEC or even Big 12 afterwards.
 
NYUConn said:
First of all, nobody is leaving a P5 conference for the Big 12 right now. That's insane. The Big 12 is the weakest of the P5 conferences on the field and in terms of monetary value it's lagging far behind the SEC, B1G and even the ACC at the moment. Without a network in place you basically have a dysfunctional conference where UT is making money hand over fist and Oklahoma has one foot out the door.

Secondly (and this is more opinion than fact), in the unlikely event that the ACC loses 2 teams to the Big 12, you really think they are going to backfill? They clearly don't value us and if they lose two major football brands (FSU/Clemson) you think they are going to rush to replace them with two basketball brands (UConn and Cincy)? No way, my guess is they stay at 12(13) and keep their current TV deal for the next few years, get richer and then the remaining brand name schools bolt for greener pastures in the B1G, SEC or even Big 12 afterwards.
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Weakest on the field? I don't see that. Football is almost certainly second to the SEC, depending on how strong the B1G is in a given year. In basketball at present it is the best league, with ACC close behind. Baseball is strong as well, not sure who is best in any given year.

The Big XII is full of schools that are like UConn in some ways, in that they really do take sports pretty seriously. The issue they have is that they exist in 5 states, 4 of which have few people. Sure they cover KC Missouri too...but that's it really.

I don't think they can pull off what is being proposed, or are even trying to, but in many ways it would make some sense.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Weakest on the field? I don't see that. Football is almost certainly second to the SEC, depending on how strong the B1G is in a given year. In basketball at present it is the best league, with ACC close behind. Baseball is strong as well, not sure who is best in any given year.

The Big XII is full of schools that are like UConn in some ways, in that they really do take sports pretty seriously. The issue they have is that they exist in 5 states, 4 of which have few people. Sure they cover KC Missouri too...but that's it really.

I don't think they can pull off what is being proposed, or are even trying to, but in many ways it would make some sense.
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In the last two years (only two of the CFP history) they missed the playoffs and got owned by the ACC champion. Further, Oklahoma wouldn't of even sniffed the playoffs had they not caught a couple of breaks with Notre Dame losing to Stanford and the B1G cannibalizing itself.

At this moment the Big 12 is the weakest of the P5 programs on the field. Things change, but at this moment they are the weakest.
 
NYUConn said:
In the last two years (only two of the CFP history) they missed the playoffs and got owned by the ACC champion. Further, Oklahoma wouldn't of even sniffed the playoffs had they not caught a couple of breaks with Notre Dame losing to Stanford and the B1G cannibalizing itself.

At this moment the Big 12 is the weakest of the P5 programs on the field. Things change, but at this moment they are the weakest.
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This is wrong. Oklahoma was already ahead of ND before the Stanford loss. They were going to be in either way. Secondly, you're going by the smallest sample possible. Using just the CFP doesn't make sense. By the numbers, the Big XII was the third-strongest league last year, behind the B1G and the SEC, in that order. Over the past five years, the league has been second, second, fourth, third, and third. By any metric, they're the strong basketball conference.
 

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