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[jostar1]

 

[Urcea]

i haven't really been following - are these guys legit/often right or what

 

[shizzle787]

i haven't really been following - are these guys legit/often right or what

Not even remotely

 

[freescooter]

The interesting thing to me has been Brian Kelly’s comments that we are moving toward a system of professional teams associated with universities. The most Interesting thing was that he said “ the players might not like some of the things that come with professional athletics like being cut or being traded.” Imagine being at Michigan and in mid-season finding yourself traded to Mississippi State!

Actually I think we are headed toward such a model but it ultimately won’t succeed.

 

[UC1995]

The interesting thing to me has been Brian Kelly’s comments that we are moving toward a system of professional teams associated with universities. The most Interesting thing was that he said “ the players might not like some of the things that come with professional athletics like being cut or being traded.” Imagine being at Michigan and in mid-season finding yourself traded to Mississippi State!

Actually I think we are headed toward such a model but it ultimately won’t succeed.

Okay, I will bite on this one. How on earth are you going to trade someone midseason with them in the middle of classes, exams, and being in a specific major?

Other than being cut, which technically can happen every year with scholarships but doesn't, this take is a bit extreme.

 

[ZooCougar]

college football fan@Genetics56 · 4h
Sourced info (aka a real source, not fake BTM): Big Ten TV deal likely to be announced on July 26th. ESPN/ABC, CBS and NBC are still going after 40 % of the contract. ESPN is trending to not being in the contract. More.....

college football fan@Genetics56 · 4h
The dollar value of the contract is expected to be $1.2 Billion. The latest on how many protected rivalries for no divisions is 4. I know I've said 2 before, but this just puts 2 on top 2. Changes nothing, really. Amazon will not be in the TV contract.

college football fan@Genetics56 · 4h
With the Big Ten TV contract highly likely to be FOX 11amCT, CBS 230 pm CT, FS1 weekly game, NBC 630ct, BTN game, that is 5 out of 7 weekly conference games. Like I said the other day, there simply isn't enough content to cover FOX, CBS, NBC, FS1, BTN with 14 schools.

college football fan@Genetics56 · 4h
and you also have NBC's Peacock streaming a weekly game. With the Pac 12 TV valued expected to be half of the Big Ten, FOX will be sending Washington, Oregon, USC, UCLA (maybe others) to the Big Ten. Not a complete merger, but pretty damn close.

college football fan@Genetics56 · 4h
July 26th is said to be the day the Big Ten announces their new TV deal. Not saying things wouldn't leak before through the Sports Business Journal, but the actual release on that day.

college football fan@Genetics56 · 4h
Thus, to recap the Big Ten TV deal info - no Amazon, Peakcock to stream 1 weekly game, likely 4 protected rivals, CBS afternoon, NBC night, FOX big game, FS1, BTN. Pac 12 schools to join the Big Ten. Some will say this is ending up as a P2, NO!. It's a new division coming.

Xander Peters ‍‍♂️‍♂️ @HipXander · 4h
Replying to @Genetics56
So Big Ten National Conference kinda new conference? What would you imagine the SEC counters with when/if this all goes down? Notre Dame and then raid the ACC (so Clemson or FSU or Miami or UNC) to get to 20?

college football fan@Genetics56 · 4h
A bunch of the ACC schools.

college football fan@Genetics56 · 4h
Football only for the pac schools




Greg Flugaur@flugempire · 2h
Remember Oct - 2021

Q: “….From your viewpoint, what do you see the role of basketball when it comes to potential realignment…What role does basketball play in some of those decisions?”

Kevin Warren:

“Basketball plays an important role.”

Part 1


Greg Flugaur@flugempire · 2h
Replying to @flugempire
Kevin Warren:

“But I think from a basketball standpoint, that is a big component from kind of conference structure, realignment standpoint, is the importance of college basketball.

Part 2


Greg Flugaur@flugempire · 1h
If the miles between USC, Oregon, Washington, +1 vs the rest of Big Ten schools is too much to overcome for PAC schools to involve their revenue generating Basketball programs in joining the Big Ten than B1G expansion with Pacific Coast schools will not happen.

Part 3


Greg Flugaur@flugempire · 1h
Replying to @Expansion_Crush
I’m not implying PAC schools are refusing to have their Basketball programs be part of Big Ten…I’m just saying without those programs included it’s not happening.

If expansion happens it won’t be Football only add-ons.

All revenue creating sports would be involved.

Greg Flugaur@flugempire · 1h
Big Ten might become national conference with addition of 2-4 top PAC brands, but it won’t be a conference with more schools in West than Eastern Timezone. It’s just not where the value is and it’s not what Ohio St, Michigan would care to do.

Valuation might work with top 4.

Murr@MurrDCU · 1h
Would this be all sports or just a few money making sports?

Greg Flugaur@flugempire · 1h
As many sports as possible…but the point of the tweets is Basketball needs to be involved. If not, no deal. Just won’t happen.

Peak non key tweets

 

[Ha Who]

Okay, I will bite on this one. How on earth are you going to trade someone midseason with them in the middle of classes, exams, and being in a specific major?

Other than being cut, which technically can happen every year with scholarships but doesn't, this take is a bit extreme.

I know those SEC football players are all about academics

 

[ZooCougar]

If there is demand for 30-40 college teams to become semi-professional, then the NFL is leaving money on the table. They should expand and play on Fridays and Saturdays. Now, I’m not sure this is the case, but Mondays and Thursdays have been good to the NFL product.

I agree. No real playoff and further professionalism will kill this.

 

[Stinger92860]

Can FOX help us with scheduling 2 games a year, H/A, versus B10? That would be a big win for us.

 

[Slasher]

Can FOX help us with scheduling 2 games a year, H/A, versus B10? That would be a big win for us.

Why would they do that?

 

[Hoophound]

Not even remotely

Swarbrick is though.

 

[freescooter]

Okay, I will bite on this one. How on earth are you going to trade someone midseason with them in the middle of classes, exams, and being in a specific major?

Other than being cut, which technically can happen every year with scholarships but doesn't, this take is a bit extreme.

The comment was my thought following up on Kelly’s comment about pro teams associated with colleges rather than college teams made up of students. He mentioned trades and cuts. I carried it to the logical conclusion. If you are a pro, presumably you are subject to trade. But going from Ann Arbor to Starkville might not be the worst. How about USC and LA TO Rutgers! USC to USC-East.

 

[CAtlantic]

college football fan@Genetics56 · 8h
More sourced info: FOX's side of the Big Ten TV contract is roughly $659M per year. $110M per school. I don't know if that is at the start or end of the contract. It's unofficial, officially Big Ten is moving away from divisions. 4 protected rivals. 12-team playoff. ND is in play

college football fan@Genetics56 · 8h
When I say Notre Dame is in play, it's not right away, but, yes, it's real. It's not until 2036 either. USC + ND is very real, as are the top Pac 12 brands.

college football fan@Genetics56 · 8h
Sourced info: All P5 conferences agree that college football should break away from the NCAA. That isn't breaking news, but you need consensus first. What there isn't agreement on is if it should include all G5 schools too.

college football fan@Genetics56 · 8h
Sourced info: The Pac 12, Big 12 once OU and UT leave, are projected at around $40M pear year, which the Pac 12 a little more than that. The Pac 12 and Big 12 brands are looking at a $60M deficit every year against SEC and Big Ten.

college football fan@Genetics56 · 8h
And when football breaks away, do some of the Big 12 schools move to the Big Ten and SEC? That isn't known, but an interesting question.

college football fan@Genetics56 · 8h
Do Big Ten fans think it is smart for the Big Ten to move away from ESPN in order to have FOX Noon game, CBS 3:30 pm EST, FS1 weekly game, NBC night game, CBS/NBC 1 game streaming?

 

[nelsonmuntz]

If there is demand for 30-40 college teams to become semi-professional, then the NFL is leaving money on the table. They should expand and play on Fridays and Saturdays. Now, I’m not sure this is the case, but Mondays and Thursdays have been good to the NFL product.

The NFL has tried to create a football minor league 4 different times in the last 20+ years, and all have failed. I was watching the USFL in a pub last night, and I doubt there were 2 thousand fans in the stands. Why would a minor league with logos of schools on the uniforms do any better?

It feels like college sports is going over a precipice that it won't know it has gone over until it is too late.

 

[Hoophound]

The NFL has tried to create a football minor league 4 different times in the last 20+ years, and all have failed. I was watching the USFL in a pub last night, and I doubt there were 2 thousand fans in the stands. Why would a minor league with logos of schools on the uniforms do any better?

It feels like college sports is going over a precipice that it won't know it has gone over until it is too late.

The one location concept of the USFL ruins it. They need fans in the seats. When Birmingham plays, they have some fans and it is a much better experience. I am assuming that next season, the USFL teams will play in their home cities?

I read somewhere that they started it this way to get ahead of the XFL by being a year earlier. They didn't have stadium agreements ready or anything, so they put it all in Birmingham. They thought if they were established first, they'd have a much better chance of being the survivor of the two.

 

[ScottVib]

I read somewhere that they started it this way to get ahead of the XFL by being a year earlier. They didn't have stadium agreements ready or anything, so they put it all in Birmingham. They thought if they were established first, they'd have a much better chance of being the survivor of the two.

That was what I saw as well... although it might not be until year 3

 

[CAtlantic]

college football fan@Genetics56 · 4h
With sources that I got the Big Ten TV deal info from end up correct that ESPN is not in the new TV deal, I think FOOTBALL can survive without issue if games are played on CBS, NBC, and main FOX channel every Saturday, all day long. ESPN can't ignore that. It's influential.

college football fan@Genetics56· 4h
CBS on Sunday will advertise a Big Ten game. NBC Sunday night football will advertise. FOX will advertise. Sure ESPN will talk less about the Big Ten, but the games will still get their advertise pub on football Sunday's.

 

[jostar1]

Greg Flugaur@flugempire
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5h
The realignment process always begins with school calling conference first.

We never had any info Oregon and Washington had called Big Ten.

But I’m guessing they are calling Warren right now.

Let this thing breath for a bit on the question of Oregon and Washington to B1G.

Greg Flugaur@flugempire
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3h
We’ve been told it would cost Notre Dame 120-140 million to pay off ACC Grants of Rights and added Exit Fee.

Notre Dame would come out ahead if they paid this cost and join Big Ten for 2024 season.

Greg Flugaur@flugempire
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1h
There is so much going on…

Expect a long train of tweets coming out of this account early tomorrow morning with BTM “the source” information.

Hint: Boosters out west are thrilled and expect another shoe to drop…they have their reasons.

Greg Flugaur@flugempire
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43m
Big Ten Conference is now a National Conference.

Greg Flugaur@flugempire
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27m
Keep in mind….FOX and Big Ten has finished the new valuations on Oregon, Washington, Notre Dame, Stanford and others weeks ago.

Now the phone calls are coming into Big Ten….

If 17, 18 happens….it happens quickly. It won’t take long.

 

[jostar1]

Greg Flugaur@flugempire
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5m


“….at this time”

The next domino is Notre Dame’s decision to either change course (Big Ten) or remain independent in Football.

Everything else has to wait.

I wouldn’t read anymore into this statement “at this time”…..than what I just stated.

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Ryan Kartje@Ryan_Kartje
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Multiple sources tell @latimes that no other Pac-12 members are expected to be added to the Big Ten at this time.

Oregon, Washington, Stanford, etc. will not be following USC and UCLA.

 

[LBird33]

Greg Flugaur@flugempire
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“….at this time”

The next domino is Notre Dame’s decision to either change course (Big Ten) or remain independent in Football.

Everything else has to wait.

I wouldn’t read anymore into this statement “at this time”…..than what I just stated.

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Ryan Kartje@Ryan_Kartje
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Multiple sources tell @latimes that no other Pac-12 members are expected to be added to the Big Ten at this time.

Oregon, Washington, Stanford, etc. will not be following USC and UCLA.

Notre Dame stays Indy

 

[Chin Diesel]

This thread should be poppin' today.

 

[UConnJim]

Notre Dame stays Indy

What if the college football playoff becomes 8 teams, 4 each from the SEC and Big 10? How many teams does that leave out that have a realistic chance of competing for a championship? Maybe Clemson, FSU, Notre Dame, and Oregon. I think Notre Dame is debating their options.

 

[Jimdish255]

The NFL has tried to create a football minor league 4 different times in the last 20+ years, and all have failed. I was watching the USFL in a pub last night, and I doubt there were 2 thousand fans in the stands. Why would a minor league with logos of schools on the uniforms do any better?

It feels like college sports is going over a precipice that it won't know it has gone over until it is too late.

My only disagreement is that I think everyone can see at this point that it's going over right now. You just didn't know how close you were to the correct date.

 

[Zissou]

What if the college football playoff becomes 8 teams, 4 each from the SEC and Big 10? How many teams does that leave out that have a realistic chance of competing for a championship? Maybe Clemson, FSU, Notre Dame, and Oregon. I think Notre Dame is debating their options.

UCF

 

[goldendomer]

What if the college football playoff becomes 8 teams, 4 each from the SEC and Big 10? How many teams does that leave out that have a realistic chance of competing for a championship? Maybe Clemson, FSU, Notre Dame, and Oregon. I think Notre Dame is debating their options.

In reality we are heading toward the Big 10.

Our AD said these is 2 power entities and schools will have to pick one. His words when he said that we're foreboding.