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I seriously doubt (especially as this is about to spill over into August) that the plan would be for football to begin a year early but hypothetically, if we were to give our notice that we would leave the BE at the end of the 2024-2025 academic/athletic year and then join the B-12 for football a year early (fall 2024) what would the BE do? Kick us out of the conference?
Lol I know your question is rhetorical, but the answer is "no chance".

They will keep our non-football sports in the conference as long as they can continue to squeeze value from us, all the while praying the BigXII move falls apart and we end up staying.
 
Saw this on twitter via facebook. This is why you don‘t on the B12,

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Where did you hear that?
Thought it was one of his B12 media days interviews about wanting/needing to wrap it up before we really get into football season.

That said, if they are close and making progress in August, doubt same date in Sept will really matter.
 
Thought it was one of his B12 media days interviews about wanting/needing to wrap it up before we really get into football season.

That said, if they are close and making progress in August, doubt same date in Sept will really matter.
Oh, okay, that was the AD of BYU who said that during Big 12 media days.
 
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You stop doubling down on a stupid position, and I will stop pointing out that it is stupid. Deal?
What position is that? I have no position.....I just want to be in the B12.

And if we don't get in this time around it will certainly suck. I have no faith in the idea the BE can keep up with the evolving P2-P4 landscape ahead in the next decade.
 
What position is that? I have no position.....I just want to be in the B12.

And if we don't get in this time around it will certainly suck. I have no faith in the idea the BE can keep up with the evolving P2-P4 landscape ahead in the next decade.
I actually do think the Big East can keep up because people were saying the same thing 10 years ago. I would still like a P5 opportunity though.
 
I actually do think the Big East can keep up because people were saying the same thing 10 years ago. I would still like a P5 opportunity though.
That's an interesting POV....so if you think the BE can keep up, why bother moving to the far flung B12 with all its risks?
 
I actually do think the Big East can keep up because people were saying the same thing 10 years ago. I would still like a P5 opportunity though.
One massive reason the BE wasn't hurt (when most felt they would slowly slide down in stature in comparison to P-5 conferences) was Nova being as good as they were. Jay Wright has retired, the possibility exists that outside of us, there will be a few schools that can periodically remain ranked for most of a season and possibly make a stray run in the tournament (sweet 16/elite 8) but the conference as a whole will find it more and more difficult to remain near the top, especially if we leave.
 
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I actually do think the Big East can keep up because people were saying the same thing 10 years ago. I would still like a P5 opportunity though.

I actually won’t be that bummed out if we don’t get into the Big 12. And they are flipping idiots if they don’t take us.

I think Benedict has created a feasible path to have a decent existence as an Indy. And Basketball is in great shape where it is now.

Of course you take the P5 if it comes. Which I am still skeptical on the chances.
 
I actually won’t be that bummed out if we don’t get into the Big 12. And they are flipping idiots if they don’t take us.

I think Benedict has created a feasible path to have a decent existence as an Indy. And Basketball is in great shape where it is now.

Of course you take the P5 if it comes. Which I am still skeptical on the chances.
I will be bummed. Likely the demise of UConn as a player on the national stage. Basketball may be in great shape now, but for how long? Do you think top athletes will still come here when they can get more money from P3 schools? Do you think it is better to play Providence and DePaul than Kansas and Iowa State, perennial tourney teams? How long can independent status be beneficial and affordable? I agree that AD Dave has been great in keeping this ship afloat, but it will not last very long like this.
 
One massive reason the BE wasn't hurt (when most felt they would slowly slide down in stature in comparison to P-5 conferences) was Nova being as good as they were. Jay Wright has retired, the possibility exists that outside of us, there will be a few schools that can periodically remain ranked for most of a season and possibly make a stray run in the tournament (sweet 16/elite 8) but the conference as a whole will find it more and more difficult to remain near the top, especially if we leave.
Jay Wright is great but he's not the only great coach to have ever coached basketball. Rick Pitino, Danny Hurley, Greg McDermott, Sean Miller, Shaka Smart, Ed Cooley, Shaheen Holloway, Thad Matta are all really good coaches and several of them are amongst the highest paid coaches in the country. The jury is out on Kyle Neptune but Nova will be ranked preseason, if it doesn't work out they will fire him and hire the best option out there. Same thing UConn did, same thing UNC will do if Hubert isn't the right guy.

It's absolutely the same argument we had on this board a decade ago. The Big East wasn't going anywhere then and it isn't going anywhere now. They're going to be the best basketball conference in the country next season and they were a foul call away from having two teams in the final 4 and a likely Big East national championship game.
 
I will be bummed. Likely the demise of UConn as a player on the national stage. Basketball may be in great shape now, but for how long? Do you think top athletes will still come here when they can get more money from P3 schools? Do you think it is better to play Providence and DePaul than Kansas and Iowa State, perennial tourney teams? How long can independent status be beneficial and affordable? I agree that AD Dave has been great in keeping this ship afloat, but it will not last very long like this.

Get ready to be bummed. What we are doing now is probably the way.
 
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I hate to say this but I think we were a mere day or two away from being invited along with Colorado over a month ago until someone in their BOR killed it at the last moment. Word going around is someone told the Colorado BOR to stall, and the subsequent meeting (presumably to take an informal vote to leave) was shelved.
 
The money gap is only going to exponentially grow as the years pass - past results can't be relied on to be predictive.
The Big East spends more on basketball per school on average than any conference in America.
 
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The Big East spends more on basketball per school on average than any conference in America.

As of now. When the SEC and B1G programs pull in 500M more than us in tv rev the next decade you don't think that changes?

Is it any surprise that schools like Alabama, Arkansas, are starting to get good and investing in hoops now?
 
As of now. When the SEC and B1G programs pull in 500M more than us in tv rev the next decade you don't think that changes?

Is it any surprise that schools like Alabama, Arkansas, are starting to get good and investing in hoops now?
No. They will spend it all over their athletic departments. The SEC is pushing to allow expanded scholarship limits in sports like baseball. Sankey will get what he wants. As it is they are already getting 40+ million more than us yearly in TV money and still spending less than the Big East. You can only spend so much money on your basketball program.
 
No. They will spend it all over their athletic departments. The SEC is pushing to allow expanded scholarship limits in sports like baseball. Sankey will get what he wants. As it is they are already getting 40+ million more than us yearly in TV money and still spending less than the Big East. You can only spend so much money on your basketball program.
Not in the NIL era. The sky's the limit for the top recruits and those programs with (lots of) extra cash to burn will land the best recruits and be able to afford and retain the best coaches. Money talks and it's naive to believe that the growing inequality between the haves and have-nots isn't going to heavily tilt the playing field and court in one direction.
 
Not in the NIL era. The sky's the limit for the top recruits and those programs with (lots of) extra cash to burn will land the best recruits and be able to afford and retain the best coaches. Money talks and it's naive to believe that the growing inequality between the haves and have-nots isn't going to heavily tilt the playing field and court in one direction.
The schools can't directly pay. Their boosters have to create collectives. That is not AD revenue. TV money can't go toward collectives.
 
The schools can't directly pay. Their boosters have to create collectives. That is not AD revenue. TV money can't go toward collectives.
I mean, the money pool is the money pool. If a donor was going to give $1,000,000 to help towards renovations, but they don't need to now because they have more TV revenue, they can just put the $1,000,000 to their collective. It's just shuffling things around.
 
The money gap is only going to exponentially grow as the years pass - past results can't be relied on to be predictive.
How far down the road? We don't know what any of this will look like in the future. Does the money they're shelling out right now for cable TV make sense? Is that the future? Does a Big 12 minus Texas and Oklahoma have the juice to justify the money that was shelled out for it? Does football keep getting more and more regional/Southern and poor?

Half this board said the Big East was finished a decade ago and wouldn't be able to compete in basketball going forward. If most of us are still here in another 10 years will we be having the same conversation again?
 
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