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And not to be outdone...
Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
smoke signals from Norman indicate P12 in Big 12 sights.
Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV 5h5 hours ago
New OU prez is pro Big 12, bullish on expansion and close ties to Colorado. Big 12 set to put the full press on easterly Pac 12 schools for Membership. Colorado, Arz., Arz State & a surprise BYU.
Daniel Mountcastle @Expansion_Crush 5h5 hours ago
I saw Chuck Carlton mention the AZ schools
Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV 5h5 hours ago
Replying to @Expansion_Crush
James L. Gallogly has a lot of influence over Colorado.
Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV 5h5 hours ago
James L. Gallogly is a war time president. As in the Big 12 is going to war against the Pac 12. If the Big 12 can pry Colorado free from the Pac 12 they feel they can add the Arizona schools.
Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV 5h5 hours ago
It Gallogly can help the Big 12 land Colorado then he doesnt share the academic concerns that kept OU out if the SEC.
Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV 4h4 hours ago
The next 3 years will determine if the Big 12 folds or persists. They have to have viable (and valuable options) lined up for expansion before sitting down at the table with ESPN/Fox.
Scott Thomas @kcpurplecat 5h5 hours ago
Colorado left once, and they were always coveting the Pacific 10 when they were here. The majority of the alumni is in California
Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV 4h4 hours ago
Replying to @kcpurplecat
Money
Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV 4h4 hours ago
Replying to @kcpurplecat
Colorado left for the same reason Mizzou, TAMU & Neb. Left. They will come back because of money.
Craig Amick @camick27 7h7 hours ago
1) Try to make conference strong again. 2) If it doesn't work, B1G time.
Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV 4h4 hours ago
Replying to @camick27
SEC. but you get it.
Craig Amick @camick27 3h3 hours ago
They didn’t hire this new president to go to the SEC, I can promise you that.
Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV 2h2 hours ago
Replying to @camick27
Its who they hired.
Tim Fitzgerald @LifeofFitz 4h4 hours ago
The old Big Eight schools will pass on Colorado. ... They'd likely prefer Colorado State or Utah to pair with BYU.
Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV 1h1 hour ago
Replying to @LifeofFitz
ESPN & Fox have already said no to those schools
Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV 1h1 hour ago
Replying to @LifeofFitz
Remember the next Big 12 TV contract needs TV sets. Colorado delivers. Colorado has financial need. ARZ & Arz St do not. Cal has financial need.
Sports n Balls @hushpook 3h3 hours ago
Fitz, I was a kid before you were a kid......and when I was a kid the discussion was when Colorado was moving to the PAC 10. Hell, might have even still been PAC 8.
Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV 1h1 hour ago
Replying to @hushpook @LifeofFitz
Its about economics.
Sports n Balls @hushpook 1h1 hour ago
Replying to @theDudeofWV @LifeofFitz
I'd say it's more about survival, power and influence
Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV 1h1 hour ago
Yea. But what’s the inciting event for schools.
Sports n Balls @hushpook 1h1 hour ago
Fear is a strong motivator.
Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV 1h1 hour ago
Exactly. Nobody is going to vote no.
Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV 1h1 hour ago
In regards to B12 expansion we all need to think like TV execs & accountants & not fans. The Big 12 would welcome Colorado back in a NY minute because it means survival.
Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV 1h1 hour ago
As for Colorado the financial need is there to look at a move. It depends on what the Big 12 can get from ESPN/Fox with additions from the P12. As always the key is profit differential. How much of an increase in revenues justifies the pain of the move? Thats TDB.
Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV 1h1 hour ago
All I’m saying is the Big 12 plans to target P12 schools prior to the exclusive window with ESPN/Fox closing on the current TV deal. They need 2-4 more schools for the next TV contract.
Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV 1h1 hour ago
If the P12 continues on the downward trend then it gets easier. Big 12 schools don’t see the P12 as a home because of the drastic loss in T3 revenue they would see as partners in the P12N.
Erik Fleak @ATVOklahoma 2h2 hours ago
Wow. Who’d have thought the president of OU would have the power to singlehandedly re-align ALL of college football? Why doesn’t he just move ND, Bama and Ohio St in too? #HeDoesnt #Ridiculous #PutTheBongDown&WalkAway
Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV 60m60 minutes ago
Replying to @ATVOklahoma
Come on... lets not pretend UT & OU dont beat the drum that the conf marches too.
But he shoots back...
Greg Flugaur @flugempire 3h3 hours ago
Fascinating. Dude is explaining tonight that somehow Big 12 is in strong enough position to lure CO, AZ schools from PAC, but yet if they fail to lure P5 schools Big 12 will fold before next Media negotiations. Yep, that should sell well and give PAC targets confidence to move.
Murr @MurrDCU 3h3 hours ago
Replying to @flugempire
PAC12 schools only make $1M from PAC Networks deal. Some of those schools are operating in the red athletically. As shaky as the B12’s landscape has been, PAC is at a significant financial disadvantage—which is how the B1G landed Maryland
Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
smoke signals from Norman indicate P12 in Big 12 sights.
Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV 5h5 hours ago
New OU prez is pro Big 12, bullish on expansion and close ties to Colorado. Big 12 set to put the full press on easterly Pac 12 schools for Membership. Colorado, Arz., Arz State & a surprise BYU.
Daniel Mountcastle @Expansion_Crush 5h5 hours ago
I saw Chuck Carlton mention the AZ schools
Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV 5h5 hours ago
Replying to @Expansion_Crush
James L. Gallogly has a lot of influence over Colorado.
Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV 5h5 hours ago
James L. Gallogly is a war time president. As in the Big 12 is going to war against the Pac 12. If the Big 12 can pry Colorado free from the Pac 12 they feel they can add the Arizona schools.
Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV 5h5 hours ago
It Gallogly can help the Big 12 land Colorado then he doesnt share the academic concerns that kept OU out if the SEC.
Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV 4h4 hours ago
The next 3 years will determine if the Big 12 folds or persists. They have to have viable (and valuable options) lined up for expansion before sitting down at the table with ESPN/Fox.
Scott Thomas @kcpurplecat 5h5 hours ago
Colorado left once, and they were always coveting the Pacific 10 when they were here. The majority of the alumni is in California
Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV 4h4 hours ago
Replying to @kcpurplecat
Money
Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV 4h4 hours ago
Replying to @kcpurplecat
Colorado left for the same reason Mizzou, TAMU & Neb. Left. They will come back because of money.
Craig Amick @camick27 7h7 hours ago
1) Try to make conference strong again. 2) If it doesn't work, B1G time.
Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV 4h4 hours ago
Replying to @camick27
SEC. but you get it.
Craig Amick @camick27 3h3 hours ago
They didn’t hire this new president to go to the SEC, I can promise you that.
Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV 2h2 hours ago
Replying to @camick27
Its who they hired.
Tim Fitzgerald @LifeofFitz 4h4 hours ago
The old Big Eight schools will pass on Colorado. ... They'd likely prefer Colorado State or Utah to pair with BYU.
Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV 1h1 hour ago
Replying to @LifeofFitz
ESPN & Fox have already said no to those schools
Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV 1h1 hour ago
Replying to @LifeofFitz
Remember the next Big 12 TV contract needs TV sets. Colorado delivers. Colorado has financial need. ARZ & Arz St do not. Cal has financial need.
Sports n Balls @hushpook 3h3 hours ago
Fitz, I was a kid before you were a kid......and when I was a kid the discussion was when Colorado was moving to the PAC 10. Hell, might have even still been PAC 8.
Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV 1h1 hour ago
Replying to @hushpook @LifeofFitz
Its about economics.
Sports n Balls @hushpook 1h1 hour ago
Replying to @theDudeofWV @LifeofFitz
I'd say it's more about survival, power and influence
Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV 1h1 hour ago
Yea. But what’s the inciting event for schools.
Sports n Balls @hushpook 1h1 hour ago
Fear is a strong motivator.
Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV 1h1 hour ago
Exactly. Nobody is going to vote no.
Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV 1h1 hour ago
In regards to B12 expansion we all need to think like TV execs & accountants & not fans. The Big 12 would welcome Colorado back in a NY minute because it means survival.
Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV 1h1 hour ago
As for Colorado the financial need is there to look at a move. It depends on what the Big 12 can get from ESPN/Fox with additions from the P12. As always the key is profit differential. How much of an increase in revenues justifies the pain of the move? Thats TDB.
Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV 1h1 hour ago
All I’m saying is the Big 12 plans to target P12 schools prior to the exclusive window with ESPN/Fox closing on the current TV deal. They need 2-4 more schools for the next TV contract.
Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV 1h1 hour ago
If the P12 continues on the downward trend then it gets easier. Big 12 schools don’t see the P12 as a home because of the drastic loss in T3 revenue they would see as partners in the P12N.
Erik Fleak @ATVOklahoma 2h2 hours ago
Wow. Who’d have thought the president of OU would have the power to singlehandedly re-align ALL of college football? Why doesn’t he just move ND, Bama and Ohio St in too? #HeDoesnt #Ridiculous #PutTheBongDown&WalkAway
Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV 60m60 minutes ago
Replying to @ATVOklahoma
Come on... lets not pretend UT & OU dont beat the drum that the conf marches too.
But he shoots back...
Greg Flugaur @flugempire 3h3 hours ago
Fascinating. Dude is explaining tonight that somehow Big 12 is in strong enough position to lure CO, AZ schools from PAC, but yet if they fail to lure P5 schools Big 12 will fold before next Media negotiations. Yep, that should sell well and give PAC targets confidence to move.
Murr @MurrDCU 3h3 hours ago
Replying to @flugempire
PAC12 schools only make $1M from PAC Networks deal. Some of those schools are operating in the red athletically. As shaky as the B12’s landscape has been, PAC is at a significant financial disadvantage—which is how the B1G landed Maryland