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Naheim Alleyne - VT transfer

superjohn said:
I would agree with you if Hurley already had a feather in his cap here but going winless in the tournament in his first 5 seasons would kind of be a disaster.

Losing 4 of the top 6 players to graduation can't be an excuse when those 4 players never won a single tournament game.
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The kids were good enough for you to call not winning tournament games with them a disaster, but then not good enough to use losing them as an excuse because they never won a tournament game?
 
shizzle787 said:
We were top 25 last year. We are supposed to improve, not stagnate.
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This reminds me that after each one of our NCs invariably there would be posters who would gripe about something they saw in our victory and how the coaches/team should have done something differently.
 
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ConnHuskBask said:
The kids were good enough for you to call not winning tournament games with them a disaster, but then not good enough to use losing them as an excuse because they never won a tournament game?
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I said not winning a tournament game in his first 5 seasons here would kind of be a disaster.
 
fleudslipcon said:
This reminds me that after each one of our NCs invariably there would be posters who would gripe about something they saw in our victory and how the coaches/team should have done something differently.
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Shizzle just wants to complain about everything and anything. Dan Hurley has improved our ranking year after year so not sure what he's even talking about.
 
shizzle787 said:
We assume but do not know if Sanogo, Jackson, and Hawkins will take steps forward. But they are on both teams so they are a net equal.
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You're trolling us, right? If you don't expect your high ceiling players to get better, you shouldn't be watching basketball. Under that theory, every team would get worse every season because your average freshman coming in is never going to be as good as your average senior having developed for four years.
 
Peacefrog said:
Here's how it could play out compared to last year's squad:

Sanogo: incremental improvement versus last year (+)
Jackson: at least incremental improvement to last year (+)
Newton: wash versus Cole. (0)
Hawkins: moderate to significant improvement over last year. Will he be as good as Martin? A wash to possibly a slight negative (0/-)
Johnson/Alleyne: Alleyne would bring a lot more offense than Whaley. Johnson has a higher ceiling than Whaley but how much will he have improved? Neither is likely to provide the defense that Whaley did. This slot could be a positive, a negative or a wash. Hard to say, very different players.

Bench: Clingan, Karaban, Castle, Johnson/Alleyne, additional experienced portal guard looks clearly better than Polley/Gaffney.

On paper the team would be improved compared to last year. Not top 10 but better.
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If AJ is only moderately improved, people are going to be disappointed in our season. I know Hawkins will be better. I know Sanogo doesn't even need to improve -- he just needs to play well more consistently (which given his work ethic I have little doubt about). But AJ does a lot of good things, but also kills us as a perimeter player who neither shots a high enough volume of threes nor can drive to the rim.

Yes, we need at least one more impact player, one or two rotation roll players and some bench depth, but how good we are is going to depend more on AJ's improvement than anything else.
 
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aburks41 said:
It's stupid to compare anyone on this year's roster to last years because the roster construction last season was terrible. That's why a 1:1 comparison is dumb.

Here's how I look at it. Last year we had 1 guy who could reliably beat his man to create his own offense, and that guy was barely 6' tall. We started 3 players who couldn't score from more than 5 feet away from the hoop. This season, if everyone develops how we expect them to we will be starting, at a minimum, 3 guys who can create their own offense off the bounce. That is already a huge improvement. This seasons roster will be constructed how a modern day roster should look.
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Even if we disagree on some details I agree with this. I hate to say it, but losing Whaley and Polley, two guys who were very limited on one end of the court, is additional by subtraction if we can replace them with more well rounded players. Agree Newton also fits better than Cole did, whether his stats end up being as good or not. Honestly, I don't want the PG leading the team in scoring. With some expected improvement from returning players and a little more new blood for depth, the team is pretty solid.
 
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Certainly seems to be enough shooting, passing and dribbling skills to be a solid off-guard addition. We still could use Castle and/or another primary ball handler but I like the direction things are headed so far.
 
superjohn said:
I said not winning a tournament game in his first 5 seasons here would kind of be a disaster.
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If we don't win a tournament game next season then Hurley is going to have to do some serious soul searching. But in reality he's really only 0/2.

Year 1 was garbage KO recovery
Year 2 the NCAAT was cancelled
Year 3 was UMD L (disappointing)
Year 4 was Teddy Allen (Super embarrassing)

This year will undoubtedly be Hurley's most talented team yet. If we can't make it to the BET Finals or we flop again in the first round, then we have a problem. His seat would certainly be getting warm for the 2024 season.

Get Alleyne, get Castle to reclass, and lets go have a great season and win multiple post season games.
 
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Synergy breakdown on Naheim:

"Good" Offensive player and "Average" defensive player as graded by the site.

Here is a breakdown of where his points come from and how efficient he is in those areas. Spot up scorer is exactly what we need.

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superjohn said:
I said not winning a tournament game in his first 5 seasons here would kind of be a disaster.
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I get what you're saying due to the zero sum game of March Madness, but even kind of disastrous overstates things.

We're improving every single season and adding more talent to the program. Eventually we'll break through.

To level set, given where we were and where we are now, what grade do you give Hurley? I think I'm in between a B and B+. The Creighton BE Semi they should have won and they had no business losing to NM State. Other than that I'm pretty pleased with the job he's done.
 
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