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Fossil said:
I truly believe that UConn should have two more titles but unfortunately Stevens left with a year of eligibility and Walker left with a year of eligibility and if we had those two players in the tournament on their senior years I believe those would’ve been the pieces that would’ve put Connecticut over the top. It’s just a shame that Connecticut lost those two players when they did. UConn should be going for NC #14
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Longtime fan said:
We are getting the door shut on us for 2023 class...so far.
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There appears to be quite a few 5 star recruits in the class of 2023 that have not declared.
I guess that we'll find out after NIL signing day on August 1, 2022 if more will chose UConn.

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visitingcock said:
The main negative (PROBABLY) being thrown around is his age. Opposing coaches on the recruiting trail are probably mentioning his age and wondering aloud to recruits whether he will be around for more than a year or two during their potential UConn careers.

Every coach would like to retire a winner - at the top of his/her game. If Geno can pull off a championship in '23 or '24 with Paige, is it illogical to assert that he would consider retirement then? If so, the '24 prospects { rivals might assert} would never play for him.

I know of no instance where recruits have disclosed that such "negative recruiting" tactics are being used, but I would be completely unsurprised if it is happening. It certainly happens in football to older, successful coaches.

BTW, I hope he and Paige get one more NV (in '24). ;)
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With respect to Geno's potential retirement, he signed a 5 year contract retroactive to 2020-2021.
The contract also provides for 2 one year extensions.
And in case Geno decides to retire, he would be eligible to continue working in the athletic dept. for up to another 5 years in lieu of a lump sum payout, probably in order to continue to provide continuity to the program while paying him even more compensation than the lump sum alone just for sticking around and helping out.

"....When asked about retirement in recent years, Auriemma said he suspects he’ll just know when it’s time to step away. Part of his equation, he’s mentioned, would entail whether he can still recruit the hard-working, championship-minded kids he’s had come to Storrs over the last 36 years...."

Around the time of the contract signing in May, 2021, Geno issued a statement:

“I would like to thank David Benedict and the University of Connecticut leadership for their continued commitment to me and the women’s basketball program,” Auriemma said in a statement. “UConn has been great to me for the last 36 years and I look forward to being here for at least a few more years. I think the future for our program, and UConn Athletics, is exciting.”

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CocoHusky said:
UCONN can't keep missing out on these quality post players and still hope to be fine. Cunningham would have been a good - it didn't happen so on to the next one. Del Rosario if she wants to come. I'm all in on Kate (The Great) Koval '24 as the next great UCONN post player from the Empire state none the less.
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I keep reading that UConn is missing on all these posts and all I can surmise is that Brady isn't very good because UConn didn't miss on her.
Maybe you can name a school that signed top 5 posts in consecutive years? I imagine that it has happened. Stokes in 2011 and Stewart in 2012? But Stokes spent most of her career sitting on the bench as a sub and so while I consider her a great post some fans think you have to start to qualify. SCar has 2 great posts but one was a transfer. Dawn has missed on every top HS post since Boston arrived. Is SCar on a downslide as a result?
 
Alydar said:
I keep reading that UConn is missing on all these posts and all I can surmise is that Brady isn't very good because UConn didn't miss on her.
Maybe you can name a school that signed top 5 posts in consecutive years? I imagine that it has happened. Stokes in 2011 and Stewart in 2012? But Stokes spent most of her career sitting on the bench as a sub and so while I consider her a great post some fans think you have to start to qualify. SCar has 2 great posts but one was a transfer. Dawn has missed on every top HS post since Boston arrived. Is SCar on a downslide as a result?
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If this is Cardoso, she's a great post? Maybe a good backup. Saxton is better and more valuable than her. If a player is really "great", smart coaches don't play them 13 mpg.
 
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CocoHusky said:
Kate "The Great" Kovval is actually from Ukraine and playing HS basketball on Long Island. There are quite a few international post prospect 22-24 but none that are outstanding IMO. Even so those players tend to go straight to the WNBA or play professionally. That is yet another reason I'm banking on Kate because she is actually here in the US playing HS basketball. Ironically I think there are better "wings" internationally than anything else. Joycte, Kosu-Russian and Prosper Canadian all are sitting atop the '23 list for Premier Basketball international rankings.
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BobbyJ said:
If this is Cardoso, she's a great post? Maybe a good backup. Saxton is better and more valuable than her.
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I agree she is unproven and again will play as a sub ... in her junior year. My point was about the annual scarcity of elite level posts and that having Brady & Patterson coming in is a recruiting home run and it's rare to do that back to back. I'd be very pleased for a 4 like Strong to pick UConn.

If I was choosing I'd rather have the 2 best guards in the country than the best post. My team might lose the last game but the pleasure I would get all season watching those guards would more than compensate for the disappointment at the end. My regret for the past season wasn't the loss to SCar, it was the loss of Bueckers and Fudd for much of the season.
 
Alydar said:
I keep reading that UConn is missing on all these posts and all I can surmise is that Brady isn't very good because UConn didn't miss on her.
Maybe you can name a school that signed top 5 posts in consecutive years? I imagine that it has happened. Stokes in 2011 and Stewart in 2012? But Stokes spent most of her career sitting on the bench as a sub and so while I consider her a great post some fans think you have to start to qualify. SCar has 2 great posts but one was a transfer. Dawn has missed on every top HS post since Boston arrived. Is SCar on a downslide as a result?
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Well, Dawn did sign the highest rated “ big” in 2021 which had no highly rated “posts.”
 
CocoHusky said:
Kate "The Great" Kovval is actually from Ukraine and playing HS basketball on Long Island. There are quite a few international post prospect 22-24 but none that are outstanding IMO. Even so those players tend to go straight to the WNBA or play professionally. That is yet another reason I'm banking on Kate because she is actually here in the US playing HS basketball. Ironically I think there are better "wings" internationally than anything else. Joycte, Kosu-Russian and Prosper Canadian all are sitting atop the '23 list for Premier Basketball international rankings.

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And... did you notice Agata Makurat, Poland, listed at # 15??
 
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Alydar said:
I keep reading that UConn is missing on all these posts and all I can surmise is that Brady isn't very good because UConn didn't miss on her.
Maybe you can name a school that signed top 5 posts in consecutive years? I imagine that it has happened. Stokes in 2011 and Stewart in 2012? But Stokes spent most of her career sitting on the bench as a sub and so while I consider her a great post some fans think you have to start to qualify. SCar has 2 great posts but one was a transfer. Dawn has missed on every top HS post since Boston arrived. Is SCar on a downslide as a result?
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First of all I don't care about what other schools are doing. That is a rather odd strawman for me to name a school that that signed top 5 post in consecutive years but SC signed Cardoso and Feagin in same year so there you go. Baylor signed Kalani Brown and Lauren Cox in consecutive years. South Carolina signed Aliana Coates and A'ja Wilson in consecutive years. UCONN signed Tina, Maya and EDD* in consecutive years. I repeat UCONN cannot afford to keep missing out on these quality post players and continue to hope things will be alright.

* Brady is not a post any more than I would consider Maya or EDD a post but since you opened that door... I took advantage.

Now if you want to talk specifically about who were the UCONN post misses, that's a more worthwhile than me having to jog your memory.
 
Zarathustra said:
And... did you notice Agata Makurat, Poland, listed at # 15??
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I did indeed. Quite honestly though, if you are talking about #15 on this list I'm not sure you are talking about a UCONN level prospect. Hana Muhl is #15 on the 2022 listing and was supposed to be heading to Illinois. #16 on the 2021 list played at Lasalle.
 
Purchase1 said:
Umm we have the number 5 & 8 players from that class coming in that’s hardly the door shut lol
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I think I meant 2024.
Alydar said:
I keep reading that UConn is missing on all these posts and all I can surmise is that Brady isn't very good because UConn didn't miss on her.
Maybe you can name a school that signed top 5 posts in consecutive years? I imagine that it has happened. Stokes in 2011 and Stewart in 2012? But Stokes spent most of her career sitting on the bench as a sub and so while I consider her a great post some fans think you have to start to qualify. SCar has 2 great posts but one was a transfer. Dawn has missed on every top HS post since Boston arrived. Is SCar on a downslide as a result?
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Why would a top post go to SC when Boston is blocking them? Maybe when she is a senior. Like now.
 
Fossil said:
I truly believe that UConn should have two more titles but unfortunately Stevens left with a year of eligibility and Walker left with a year of eligibility and if we had those two players in the tournament on their senior years I believe those would’ve been the pieces that would’ve put Connecticut over the top. It’s just a shame that Connecticut lost those two players when they did. UConn should be going for NC #14
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No one can dispute your belief. Azure was a talent, but I strongly believe she was a fish out of water in the post position. Had she stayed, it is possible she may have been more of a post, who knows? If she had a post of even mineable post talent she may have stayed and an NC MAY have happened. Talented forwards, we have seen, rarely make good effective posts. Walker, the one that went to Kentucky? I don't know about her--we saw her about 1 Semester or less.
 
Alydar said:
I keep reading that UConn is missing on all these posts and all I can surmise is that Brady isn't very good because UConn didn't miss on her.
Maybe you can name a school that signed top 5 posts in consecutive years? I imagine that it has happened. Stokes in 2011 and Stewart in 2012? But Stokes spent most of her career sitting on the bench as a sub and so while I consider her a great post some fans think you have to start to qualify. SCar has 2 great posts but one was a transfer. Dawn has missed on every top HS post since Boston arrived. Is SCar on a downslide as a result?
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I liked your post. When a school get the top guard in a class, the next few classes guards don't go there, That true of posts. As you point out, even terrific posts sit. Stokes, in my less than knowledgeable opinion--was many times getter than we got to see. She, Stokes was one of my favorites, under appreciated, she showed her talent in the Pro's. She is my idea of a perfect post to go with scoring guards and forwards. She was the perfect back stop. Those pesky guards didn't drive on her, with other posts they scored easily. Don't be too quick to put SC on a slide--remember Geno has been on one since 1995.
 
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TCC Kid said:
I liked your post. When a school get the top guard in a class, the next few classes guards don't go there, That true of posts. As you point out, even terrific posts sit. Stokes, in my less than knowledgeable opinion--was many times getter than we got to see. She, Stokes was one of my favorites, under appreciated, she showed her talent in the Pro's. She is my idea of a perfect post to go with scoring guards and forwards. She was the perfect back stop. Those pesky guards didn't drive on her, with other posts they scored easily. Don't be too quick to put SC on a slide--remember Geno has been on one since 1995.
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Uhn... That just not correct. Crystal Dangerfield was the top guard in her class. Megan Walker followed her to UCONN and Christyn Williams followed Megan. Paige and then Azzi? You are not a terrific post if you "have" to sit. Kiah Stokes had Dolson & Tuck ahead of her.
 
CocoHusky said:
First of all I don't care about what other schools are doing. That is a rather odd strawman for me to name a school that that signed top 5 post in consecutive years but SC signed Cardoso and Feagin in same year so there you go. Baylor signed Kalani Brown and Lauren Cox in consecutive years. South Carolina signed Aliana Coates and A'ja Wilson in consecutive years. UCONN signed Tina, Maya and EDD* in consecutive years. I repeat UCONN cannot afford to keep missing out on these quality post players and continue to hope things will be alright.

* Brady is not a post any more than I would consider Maya or EDD a post but since you opened that door... I took advantage.

Now if you want to talk specifically about who were the UCONN post misses, that's a more worthwhile than me having to jog your memory.
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I would call EDD a miss. Tina was 6'3" and couldn't possibly be called a post. Hell, Edwards is 6'3". So is Patterson. Brady is 6'4". Juhasz & DeBerry are 6'5". And UConn is so short of posts they absolutely HAVE to sign a '23 post because Edwards, Brady, Patterson & DeBerry aren't enough for '24.

Feagin? Five min a game, 2 pts, 1.5 rbs. Top post? She is listed as a F. She and Ducharme are both 6'2/3" and were 5 star 98's ranked 4th and 5th. If Feagin is a top post so is Ducharme, who produced a lot while Feagin has produced zero. If you base her "top post" label on HS talent then you have to say the same thing about DeBerry. And I don't think you aren't saying that DeBerry and Ducharme were top post recruits.

What I feel when I read "must get" or "can't keep missing on top posts" is panic. Reminds me of a lot of baseball fans who want the manager fired in mid-April. It's as if UConn has to get the top players every year or else the sky is falling. Well, they have been missing on a lot of top posts for a very long time and UConn fans have had the same complaints, also for a very long time, yet they have done better than anyone else in wcbb. Is it different this time? I say no, it's just the same old fans who want it all and then want still more.
 
Longtime fan said:
I think I meant 2024.

Why would a top post go to SC when Boston is blocking them? Maybe when she is a senior. Like now.
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Exactly. Now, apply that same logic to UConn. Why would a top post in '23 want to come and play behind Brady for 3 years? Not the same? It was the same when Boston was a freshman. SCar's entire recruiting class for 2020 was No. 48, Eniya Russell. And I'm sure that some SCar fans thought the sky was falling.
 
Alydar said:
I would call EDD a miss. Tina was 6'3" and couldn't possibly be called a post. Hell, Edwards is 6'3". So is Patterson. Brady is 6'4". Juhasz & DeBerry are 6'5". And UConn is so short of posts they absolutely HAVE to sign a '23 post because Edwards, Brady, Patterson & DeBerry aren't enough for '24.

Feagin? Five min a game, 2 pts, 1.5 rbs. Top post? She is listed as a F. She and Ducharme are both 6'2/3" and were 5 star 98's ranked 4th and 5th. If Feagin is a top post so is Ducharme, who produced a lot while Feagin has produced zero. If you base her "top post" label on HS talent then you have to say the same thing about DeBerry. And I don't think you aren't saying that DeBerry and Ducharme were top post recruits.

What I feel when I read "must get" or "can't keep missing on top posts" is panic. Reminds me of a lot of baseball fans who want the manager fired in mid-April. It's as if UConn has to get the top players every year or else the sky is falling. Well, they have been missing on a lot of top posts for a very long time and UConn fans have had the same complaints, also for a very long time, yet they have done better than anyone else in wcbb. Is it different this time? I say no, it's just the same old fans who want it all and then want still more.
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Don't move the goal post now! You stated the criteria as top 5 post in consecutive classes. You said nothing about how they eventually performed. Feagin was the #3 player in the class- FACT. BTW Tina Charles has not been 6'3" since she was playing JV basketball as a freshman at CTK because she was not allowed to be on Varsity. In what twisted universe (sans USA basketball) is Tina Charles not considered a post.
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A top post is, in itself, an anomaly. The rare talent that often is the difference maker for a top team. Look at the past top teams. A top post player was often the key player. Another factor is you kind of want to be selective about it because if you sign a post that's around top 7-8 then you may be less able to sign a post that's top 3 as they still might not be sure of PT. Geno has had to revert to secondary posts as he's lost out on some of the top post talents for a while now. I think it might be the key reason why we have been F4 material but not NC. What if we signed Boston, or Brinks for example. Would that have been enough to make the difference? I think very possibly.
 
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To me, Blanca and Del Rosario are the only posts remaining that I would describe as top post recruits ( I imagine I'm missing some ). We play AE a lot as our "post" so it's not like Ice can't play the position at all. I do agree that except for Dorka and Amari every other player is ideally a non post player.
 
visitingcock said:
The main negative (PROBABLY) being thrown around is his age. Opposing coaches on the recruiting trail are probably mentioning his age and wondering aloud to recruits whether he will be around for more than a year or two during their potential UConn careers.

Every coach would like to retire a winner - at the top of his/her game. If Geno can pull off a championship in '23 or '24 with Paige, is it illogical to assert that he would consider retirement then? If so, the '24 prospects { rivals might assert} would never play for him.

I know of no instance where recruits have disclosed that such "negative recruiting" tactics are being used, but I would be completely unsurprised if it is happening. It certainly happens in football to older, successful coaches.

BTW, I hope he and Paige get one more NV (in '24). ;)
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I could have sworn that I read that some opposing coaches have told recruits that Dawn might consider jumping to the WNBA as a head coach with the ultimate goal of being an NBA coach......have you heard any of that?
 
TeamFirst! said:
A top post is, in itself, an anomaly. The rare talent that often is the difference maker for a top team. Look at the past top teams. A top post player was often the key player. Another factor is you kind of want to be selective about it because if you sign a post that's around top 7-8 then you may be less able to sign a post that's top 3 as they still might not be sure of PT. Geno has had to revert to secondary posts as he's lost out on some of the top post talents for a while now. I think it might be the key reason why we have been F4 material but not NC. What if we signed Boston, or Brinks for example. Would that have been enough to make the difference? I think very possibly.
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I would say UConn wins multiple championships with Boston.......
 
Charliebball said:
I could have sworn that I read that some opposing coaches have told recruits that Dawn might consider jumping to the WNBA as a head coach with the ultimate goal of being an NBA coach......have you heard any of that?
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TeamFirst! said:
To me, Blanca and Del Rosario are the only posts remaining that I would describe as top post recruits ( I imagine I'm missing some ). We play AE a lot as our "post" so it's not like Ice can't play the position at all. I do agree that except for Dorka and Amari every other player is ideally a non post player.
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If someone can't play with their back to the basket, that's the first sign that they aren't a post. Dorka is a forward.
 
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