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husky99 said:
The RU talk was all around the last few days. I tried to give you guys the heads up
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Stop the nonsense. @upstater and myself said it the whole time that he was going to Rutgers even with all the crystal balls earlier in the week. His interviews and his talking about how his family loves Rutgers and Pikiell as a head coach told you all you needed to know about where he was headed. The fact that our ace recruiter has been recruiting the guy since 6th grade and lost out to Rutgers is a huge problem. If you can't get a guy like Mathis, how can you expect to get Carey or Mucius.

Our program is in serious serious trouble.
 
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Seeming trend.

Recruiting a Sub-30 recruit:
Recruiting opponent in P5: "we will give you everything you want, you name it you got it."

Ollie in B5: "I can't make any promises to you. We want 10 toes in and if you hustle and play defense in practice you may get play time."

Recruit's decision: "I just want to play, and in the P5 as an added bonus." NOT UConn.

Recruiting a 5* one-and-done level recruit:
Recruiting opponent in P5: "we will give you everything you want, you name it you got it."

Ollie in B5: "I can't make any promises to you. We want 10 toes in and if you hustle and play defense in practice you may get play time."

Recruit's decision: "Uhhh, not too familiar with a 'Yukon'. I need to get drafted. Look at Calipari and Drake at the NBA draft! Something something P5."

Wrong approach on both fronts. Top level kids aren't receptive to what Ollie is selling as well as his lack of proven results pedigree to risk $$$ on a one year dice roll. Meanwhile lower level kids aren't gonna buy the hard work, grit and bring mantra for a G5 that can't seem to string together five consecutive wins.
 
husky99 said:
I hear the staff is shocked that they lost this guy. They were 100% thinking he was gonna say uconn Monday or Tuesday
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Any chance that our staff talks to players more than parents? Seems like with Wilson and Mathis the parents really wanted the other schools but the players may have wanted UConn
 
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Huskymagic said:
Remember when I said people were way off with their rejoicing over Miller getting fired. Killings hasn't done anything and Chillious is now
0-4 for recruits losing now to Rutgers.

PS: I want a return of Glenn Miller after this season on the staff and Killings gone.
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Miller was striking out and some of the lack of player development was on him. But agree - this is a really bad slump and perhaps worse than that.
 
Is there a precedent for a National Championship winning coach crashing and burning so quickly afterwards? It's honestly amazing.
 
HawkHusky said:
The fact that it was a struggle deciding between UCONN and Rutgers tells me that he would have (at best) been 7 toes in at UCONN. He would have never bled blue or willed his team to a deep post-season run. Time to move on.
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If this logic I see repeatedly here was real we will never get another recruit again. The media and public sentiment have been pounding on it for years now, these kids know now in 2017 that the schools need them more than they need the schools. The position of leverage has shifted. Kids aren't graduating high school 100% passionate and dead locked to play for their childhood dream team. If that's what you want it's going to be a barren roster.
 
We just need to close at the way through the actual commitment. Parents swayed/made the final decision. If you don’t think he was 95% headed to UConn after all those a twitter follows you’re crazy...absolutely does not happen if he’s not headed here.
 
Outworked? Huh? So stupid to even say or suggest.

These borderline top 100 kids are probably the hardest to recruit. They are mostly kids that will never sniff the league, but want to hear the most BS about how they'll get there.

Good luck at Rutty going 2-16 the next 3 years in the B1G.

husky99 said:
The word is ru out worked us. Said it a week ago. Their staff was all over him
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TRest said:
I certainly hope some type of financial incentive isn't showing up to flip these kids. Every last one of these kids seem to be making an odd choice at the very end. St. Johns, LSU, Rutgirls, Texas Tech? I feel like a Umass fan.
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If you lose four kids to those four schools, the problem isn't them. Its you.
 
JSM1970 said:
Outworked? Huh? So stupid to even say or suggest.

These borderline top 100 kids are probably the hardest to recruit. They are mostly kids that will never sniff the league, but want to hear the most BS about how they'll get there.

Good luck at Rutty going 2-16 the next 3 years in the B1G.
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Why?
 
Stairmaster said:
Killings has been lead on more people who actually committed this past year than any other member of the staff.

Are you trolling us by making stuff up, or are you just that dumb?
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You're clueless. Thinking getting Polley and Carlton is some special thing that at a place like UCONN. I've been on the money regarding our problems and issues earlier than anybody. When everybody was rejoicing over Miller, I was the only who said that's not good and very bad for us. Killings is not the solution or the answer to our problems. Since he has gotten here we have just taken a crazy nosedive not that I blame him exclusively for our problems.

Parents don't trust Ollie and our NBA rep and development of players has taken a huge hit since he became head coach, but obviously its hard to develop when you can't get very good players. That's been a huge part of the problem. The players Ollie is getting for the most part is nowhere near the caliber that Calhoun routinely got its not even close.

PS: If the staff is shocked that players keep committing elsewhere and they thought they were for sure committing and they keep getting outworked: that tells you all you need to know.
 
Huskymagic said:
You're clueless. Thinking getting Polley and Carlton is some special thing that at a place like UCONN. I've been on the money regarding our problems and issues earlier than anybody. When everybody was rejoicing over Miller, I was the only who said that's not good and very bad for us. Killings is not the solution or the answer to our problems. Since he has gotten here we have just taken a crazy nosedive not that I blame him exclusively for our problems.

Parents don't trust Ollie and our NBA rep and development of players has taken a huge hit since he became head coach, but obviously its hard to develop when you can't get very good players. That's been a huge part of the problem. The players Ollie is getting for the most part is nowhere near the caliber that Calhoun routinely got its not even close.

PS: If the staff is shocked that players keep committing elsewhere and they thought they were for sure committing and they keep getting outworked: that tells you all you need to know.
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Calhoun days are most likely never coming back. You and a bunch of other people are going to be very unhappy for the rest of your lives if that's what you're waiting for.
 
Look, something is wrong. Many opinions on what it is. It has to be more than conference. We can't beat our conference mates for recruits. There are many non-P5 schools recruiting better than us.

New staff with recruiting success, Kill and Chill. Get us to the announcement and they choose St John's and Rutgers.

Parents in both situations want their child to go somewhere else. What is an extra couple of hours if you think your kid is in a better situation.

This is where we are. Might be mirror tone for someone.
 
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UConnNick said:
B10 > AAC. Simple as that.

Rutgers set themselves up to win some recruiting battles when their former AD Tim Pernetti got them into the B10. There's no way for us to sugar coat that, hoping recruits we might both be in the market for will give deference to our vastly superior historical pedigree.

These kids are looking for instant exposure and gratification on the biggest possible stage, and they have incredibly short memories thanks to instant social media, among other things. What have you done lately is all that matters to some. Apparently 2014 isn't lately enough for some of them. There are going to be a bunch who think that's only happening for them in a P5 conference.
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Yes. Yes. A thousand times yes.
 
Chief00 said:
You may live to regret those words about Calhoun not coming back!
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My god. Are you illiterate?

I said the "Calhoun days" are not coming back.

As in, we will probably never again be as good as we were under Calhoun.

As in, I paid Calhoun (whom I regularly call the greatest basketball coach of all time in my posts here) a huge complement.

You are beyond incorrigible.
 
Chief00 said:
You may live to regret those words about Calhoun not coming back!
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But just to clarify, you're saying you want Calhoun to come back on staff at the age of seventy-five with that medical history?

I thought negative recruiting was something the program needed to move away from.
 
upstater said:
Never tongue-in-cheek coming from you. It is absolutely fitting with everything you contribute to this board. It wasn't even surprising. It is exactly how you operate.
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Give it a rest. Is his post really that unreasonable at this point?

Recruiting is supposed to be KOs strong suit. That's his calling card.

Despite the crappy regular season seemingly every year and the frustrating lack of player development, everyone would point to his recruiting and how he would continue to bring in talent to keep us relevant nationally.

Right now he sucks at recruiting too. When you start sucking at your calling card, what exactly is there left to defend?
 
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HuskiesAllDay said:
Give it a rest. Is his post really that unreasonable at this point?

Recruiting is supposed to be KOs strong suit. That's his calling card.

Despite the crappy regular season seemingly every year and the frustrating lack of player development, everyone would point to his recruiting and how he would continue to bring in talent to keep us relevant nationally.

Right now he sucks at recruiting too. When you start sucking at your calling card, what exactly is there left to defend?
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OK, so go ahead. Post your new favorite coach for UConn. This should be fun for the next 8 months. What a pleasure.

Not even Diaco got that.
 
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