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No words justify responding with violence. Interesting that equal amount of responses about hurting his draft stock and that fan deserved it.

Let's say you get $1,000 for enduring 1 minute of verbal abuse but you lose it if you respond. Nothing makes you respond right? Smart's situation is essentially that times 1000 in time and money.

He is going to get a long suspension I think.
 

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Not defending Smart. But I'm pretty sure this douchenozzle said something really offensive.

Regardless, I'm sure there are teams towards the middle of the draft pack licking their chops. Sure, Smart's draft stock is gonna go down, but this kid is super talented and is going to be a great NBA player. In the end, it won't stop teams from wanting him if he's got a little temper issue.
Someone on Deadspin found this asshat superfan in another video. Last 5 seconds of video shows him mouthing off and gesturing up yours to an opposing player.

 

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Someone on Deadspin found this asshat superfan in another video. Last 5 seconds of video shows him mouthing off and gesturing up yours to an opposing player.



I was just about to post this.. This fan definitely has some history.
 
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Do you think with all of this negative attention that TTU might discipline this fan? Just curious what your thoughts are...
 
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Someone on Deadspin found this asshat superfan in another video. Last 5 seconds of video shows him mouthing off and gesturing up yours to an opposing player.



Bryan Davis:
“@B_Davis0: The same guy that talked crazy to me for 4 years. Smh but you should never put your hands on a fan.”
 
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I was just about to post this.. This fan definitely has some history.
I'm not about to defend Smart for pushing the fan, but if it's proven that this fan said something inappropriate, and has a history of this sort of thing, they should take away his season tickets and never let him back in that building.

When I saw the replay that fan and ever the woman next to him looked familiar in that it reminded me of some similar last fan situation. Maybe I'm just imagining it.
 

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I'm not about to defend Smart for pushing the fan, but if it's proven that this fan said something inappropriate, and has a history of this sort of thing, they should take away his season tickets and never let him back in that building.

When I saw the replay that fan and ever the woman next to him looked familiar in that it reminded me of some similar last fan situation. Maybe I'm just imagining it.

Yep, USA Today even referred to the guy as Texas Tech's number 1 fan back in 2010.

http://today.ttu.edu/2010/03/texas-tech-basketball-fan-extraordinaire/
 
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I don't think he's a bad kid. Prior to a couple weeks ago, all we heard about him is how intelligent and well-mannered he is for somebody his age. Shoving a fan is obviously not excusable under any circumstances, but there are a lot of players in the NBA that would probably react in similar fashion if the right thing was said to put them over the top. I'm not defending his actions, but I also don't think they are indicative of his character. How he handles the situation from here will tell us what we need to know about him.
You make a good point. How he handles himself from this point on will speak volumes.
 
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From a "source", it was definitely a racially derogative statement. No excuses for either party. Unfortunate.
 

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The reaction of the woman next to the man is hilariously annoying. I would have ripped her fat finger off if I was Marcus. Good for him for not ripping her fat finger off.


Every three seconds when ESPN showed it. Again. She looked like some SNL character. Almost as if the parody couldn't top the real thing.
 

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One point a lot of you are missing is he had a chance to get up and walk out of the situation. Instead, he walked into it. If he walks out after getting up, it's over. He walked up to the fan before he said anything. Is that fan a mushroom cap? Probably. Doesn't matter. He walked into it making the situation worse and then shoved him after he said something.

Sure, he's a young man and they make mistakes - so do old men.

Bottom line you just can't shove a spectator that hard who has not assaulted you. He's going to get some kind of suspension and he's going to hurt his draft status. In my opinion, there's little doubt that he didn't cost himself a fair amount of money. On the other hand, he'll make more in 1 or 2 years than I've made in my life so it's not like he's really hurt his ability to feed his family and have a roof over his head.

It was just a stupid thing to do and it will have consequences.
 
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One point a lot of you are missing is he had a chance to get up and walk out of the situation. Instead, he walked into it. If he walks out after getting up, it's over. He walked up to the fan before he said anything. Is that fan a mushroom cap? Probably. Doesn't matter. He walked into it making the situation worse and then shoved him after he said something.

Sure, he's a young man and they make mistakes - so do old men.

Bottom line you just can't shove a spectator that hard who has not assaulted you. He's going to get some kind of suspension and he's going to hurt his draft status. In my opinion, there's little doubt that he didn't cost himself a fair amount of money. On the other hand, he'll make more in 1 or 2 years than I've made in my life so it's not like he's really hurt his ability to feed his family and have a roof over his head.

It was just a stupid thing to do and it will have consequences.

he won't play in Cleveland is that a consequence
 

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jleves said:
Bottom line you just can't shove a spectator that hard who has not assaulted you.

He was assaulted. Verbally.


If this happened anywhere else, nobody would have an issue with what Smart did. At all. But because he did it in a place with a lot of seats and two metal circles 94 feet apart, "THERES NO PLACE FOR THAT!!!"

Heck outta here.
 

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He was assaulted. Verbally.


If this happened anywhere else, nobody would have an issue with what Smart did. At all. But because he did it in a place with a lot of seats and two metal circles 94 feet apart, "THERES NO PLACE FOR THAT!!!"

Heck outta here.
So you're saying every time a fan verbally assaults a basketball player they have the right to go into the stands and shove a spectator? Got it. Let the games begin.
 
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The guy was probably a d**head, but Smart has been a punk all year especially as of late as his game has become somewhat normal…..walked off the court last week or because he thought the refs were calling a crappy game and has had issues with many players…..there were 2 d**kheads involved in this and one should just STFU and play basketball….and start leading his team rather than being a little whiny sissy…….
 
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So you're saying every time a fan verbally assaults a basketball player they have the right to go into the stands and shove a spectator? Got it. Let the games begin.

You really think he's saying that?

Your narrative ignores the way in which Smart initially got off the court and close to the stands. It also ignores the subsequently more 'intimate' nature of the fan's enthusiasm. This may not change your opinion regarding the inadvisability of Smart's actions, but at least get the context right. This wasn't a player going directly from court to fan.
 

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You really think he's saying that?

Your narrative ignores the way in which Smart initially got off the court and close to the stands. It also ignores the subsequently more 'intimate' nature of the fan's enthusiasm. This may not change your opinion regarding the inadvisability of Smart's actions, but at least get the context right. This wasn't a player going directly from court to fan.
1) yes and no. On the one hand he is saying that it's OK to react to fans 'verbally assaulting' players. On the other he probably doesn't think that's OK.
2) He could have gotten off the court. After getting up, he walks toward the three fans and engages them. He never should have done that. That's my main point. He did go from directly behind the basket to the fans.
 

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Bottom line is you don't physically (sometimes verbally) attack spectators. You're there to play the game, not to attack a fan. As an athlete you're supposed to channel that out.

So some on here think that the Brawl at the Palace was a justified fight because someone said the N word? Please.
 
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If Marcus Smart was really called a by this fan then Smart will be be suspended for several games and I will applaud him for pushing that piece of and wish he knocked him out,
 

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Bottom line is you don't physically (sometimes verbally) attack spectators. You're there to play the game, not to attack a fan. As an athlete you're supposed to channel that out.

So some on here think that the Brawl at the Palace was a justified fight because someone said the N word? Please.

And spectators are there to spectate not provoke the atheletes. Not saying Smart was right in what he did but he was provoked and acted accordingly.

The Malice at the Palace wasn't started by someone saying the N word so I'm not even sure why you would bring that up.
 
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