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From a "source", it was definitely a racially derogative statement. No excuses for either party. Unfortunate.
 
BoatShow said:
The reaction of the woman next to the man is hilariously annoying. I would have ripped her fat finger off if I was Marcus. Good for him for not ripping her fat finger off.
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Every three seconds when ESPN showed it. Again. She looked like some SNL character. Almost as if the parody couldn't top the real thing.
 
One point a lot of you are missing is he had a chance to get up and walk out of the situation. Instead, he walked into it. If he walks out after getting up, it's over. He walked up to the fan before he said anything. Is that fan a mushroom cap? Probably. Doesn't matter. He walked into it making the situation worse and then shoved him after he said something.

Sure, he's a young man and they make mistakes - so do old men.

Bottom line you just can't shove a spectator that hard who has not assaulted you. He's going to get some kind of suspension and he's going to hurt his draft status. In my opinion, there's little doubt that he didn't cost himself a fair amount of money. On the other hand, he'll make more in 1 or 2 years than I've made in my life so it's not like he's really hurt his ability to feed his family and have a roof over his head.

It was just a stupid thing to do and it will have consequences.
 
jleves said:
One point a lot of you are missing is he had a chance to get up and walk out of the situation. Instead, he walked into it. If he walks out after getting up, it's over. He walked up to the fan before he said anything. Is that fan a mushroom cap? Probably. Doesn't matter. He walked into it making the situation worse and then shoved him after he said something.

Sure, he's a young man and they make mistakes - so do old men.

Bottom line you just can't shove a spectator that hard who has not assaulted you. He's going to get some kind of suspension and he's going to hurt his draft status. In my opinion, there's little doubt that he didn't cost himself a fair amount of money. On the other hand, he'll make more in 1 or 2 years than I've made in my life so it's not like he's really hurt his ability to feed his family and have a roof over his head.

It was just a stupid thing to do and it will have consequences.
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he won't play in Cleveland is that a consequence
 
jleves said:
Bottom line you just can't shove a spectator that hard who has not assaulted you.
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He was assaulted. Verbally.


If this happened anywhere else, nobody would have an issue with what Smart did. At all. But because he did it in a place with a lot of seats and two metal circles 94 feet apart, "THERES NO PLACE FOR THAT!!!"

Heck outta here.
 
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zls44 said:
He was assaulted. Verbally.


If this happened anywhere else, nobody would have an issue with what Smart did. At all. But because he did it in a place with a lot of seats and two metal circles 94 feet apart, "THERES NO PLACE FOR THAT!!!"

Heck outta here.
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So you're saying every time a fan verbally assaults a basketball player they have the right to go into the stands and shove a spectator? Got it. Let the games begin.
 
The guy was probably a d**head, but Smart has been a punk all year especially as of late as his game has become somewhat normal…..walked off the court last week or because he thought the refs were calling a crappy game and has had issues with many players…..there were 2 d**kheads involved in this and one should just STFU and play basketball….and start leading his team rather than being a little whiny sissy…….
 
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jleves said:
So you're saying every time a fan verbally assaults a basketball player they have the right to go into the stands and shove a spectator? Got it. Let the games begin.
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You really think he's saying that?

Your narrative ignores the way in which Smart initially got off the court and close to the stands. It also ignores the subsequently more 'intimate' nature of the fan's enthusiasm. This may not change your opinion regarding the inadvisability of Smart's actions, but at least get the context right. This wasn't a player going directly from court to fan.
 
Hans Sprungfeld said:
You really think he's saying that?

Your narrative ignores the way in which Smart initially got off the court and close to the stands. It also ignores the subsequently more 'intimate' nature of the fan's enthusiasm. This may not change your opinion regarding the inadvisability of Smart's actions, but at least get the context right. This wasn't a player going directly from court to fan.
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1) yes and no. On the one hand he is saying that it's OK to react to fans 'verbally assaulting' players. On the other he probably doesn't think that's OK.
2) He could have gotten off the court. After getting up, he walks toward the three fans and engages them. He never should have done that. That's my main point. He did go from directly behind the basket to the fans.
 
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Bottom line is you don't physically (sometimes verbally) attack spectators. You're there to play the game, not to attack a fan. As an athlete you're supposed to channel that out.

So some on here think that the Brawl at the Palace was a justified fight because someone said the N word? Please.
 
If Marcus Smart was really called a by this fan then Smart will be be suspended for several games and I will applaud him for pushing that piece of shit and wish he knocked him out,
 
CTBasketball said:
Bottom line is you don't physically (sometimes verbally) attack spectators. You're there to play the game, not to attack a fan. As an athlete you're supposed to channel that out.

So some on here think that the Brawl at the Palace was a justified fight because someone said the N word? Please.
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And spectators are there to spectate not provoke the atheletes. Not saying Smart was right in what he did but he was provoked and acted accordingly.

The Malice at the Palace wasn't started by someone saying the N word so I'm not even sure why you would bring that up.
 
Everybody condemning Smart for his actions are evaluating the situation from a logical viewpoint, not an emotional one. I'm sure when Smart gets home and watches the highlights, he'll immediately regret his actions. But considering the game situation - two point game, five seconds left, Smart had just chased a ball-handler across the court and spiraled into the stands - his adrenaline was already high, and he was already frustrated. Now you have some fat guy in the crowd making racially charged comments at you? It's hard to maintain your cool in that spot as a 35-year-old, never mind at 20. There are certain words and phrases that carry a level of vitriol that I, and the vast majority of people responding in this thread, could never understand. He should still be disciplined harshly - and I wouldn't be opposed to an especially harsh suspension since a precedent needs to be set here - but sometimes emotion trumps logic, and I sympathize with him here to some degree.
 
Dynasty said:
And spectators are there to spectate not provoke the atheletes. Not saying Smart was right in what he did but he was provoked and acted accordingly.

The Malice at the Palace wasn't started by someone saying the N word so I'm not even sure why you would bring that up.
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And even if it was instigated by that, there is a world of difference between shoving somebody and jumping over the scorers table and beginning to whale on a guy. Inevitably the comparison is going to be made, but it's dumb.
 
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Dynasty said:
And spectators are there to spectate not provoke the atheletes. Not saying Smart was right in what he did but he was provoked and acted accordingly.

The Malice at the Palace wasn't started by someone saying the N word so I'm not even sure why you would bring that up.
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the Malace at the palace was started when a fan threw a cup of beer at Ron Artest and that was as Artest was trying to relax and compose himself after being involved in a skirmish on the court.
 
zls44 said:
If Jeff Orr dropped the N-word or something similar on Smart, the only reaction SHOULD be to APPLAUD Smart for not beating him within an inch of his life.

"It doesn't matter what he said, you can't do that!"

*ck outta here...
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It doesn't. You can't assault someone for what they say. Period, end of sentence. That's the cost of being a grown-up.
 
walker11 said:
If Marcus Smart was really called a by this fan then Smart will be be suspended for several games and I will applaud him for pushing that piece of and wish he knocked him out,
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I hear you but I don't understand how you can post the N word and that's ok when I can't post any swear word that describes fecal matter, the N word makes my skin crawl and it used in any context isn't cool, Mods please clean up the board it doesn't belong here
 
jleves said:
I can't believe anyone is defending him. I don't care what the guy said, you just can't shove a fan who hasn't physically assaulted you. And the fact that you didn't walk out first but walked into the confrontation to begin with is beyond stupid.
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It ain't that easy. Losing 4 of your last 5, draft stock taking a hit, and then their #1 fan provokes you with saying something (the right words) to push your buttons. Its a shove not a punch, with a 50+ year grown ass man involved in this. The fan admittedly stated he said something antagonistic to Smart.

Smart is still young and certainly not beyond childness and immature behavior. It was a tense situation and he acted in the moment. He's a sophomore not full of world experiences or social interactions (e.g. practice restratint) like many of us adults.

Hell how many people on this board put up their middle finger when a driver cuts them off. Let's all not start casting stones at the kid. It was an isolated incident, and from what I've read about Smart, was out of character.

Unfortunately one mistake and now many will label him, turn on him and call him stupid. As long as Smart recognizes his error, is apologetic and remorseful/regretful I'm willing to let it go without much character assasination. His suspension or consequences will be the end of this for me.

He is after all young and prone to doing dumb things. He may become a better person or man as a result of this lesson. Any parent (or even NBA scout) would know that.
 
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I got no problem with the push if he was called the N word. If fact I'd applaud him. Sometimes you don't just walk away
 
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Right now just happy to not be Marcus Smart or even worse a Texas Tech fan!
 
Hans Sprungfeld said:
Note cultural bias built into the profanity filter.
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Boy, no kidding, you can't say , but you can say the n-word? Well done! It's clear this board's software dates from the 50's, now more than ever :)
 
Didn't hilton sit a game for flipping that fan off, maybe in West Virginia, for repeatedly taunting him and telling him to go back to Africa? Fans were brutal to KEA but he answered with his play and usually had the last laugh. He had his own way of shutting them up!
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
I hope this is a joke.
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a very bad joke....... this situation is both sad and wrong in many ways. lets hope that ok state doesn't give up on this kid off the court and puts the right people around him so he can get his life back in order. he is a super talented KID that for some reason has spiraled out of control. i hate to see stuff like this and really hope that Marcus Smart can somehow get back to being who we saw in the preseason.
 
Krugs17 said:
From a "source", it was definitely a racially derogative statement. No excuses for either party. Unfortunate.
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Good for Marcus Smart. He didn't do anything too bad w a shove. A fan should have responsibility just like a player or coach. There is no doubt the fan started it while Marcus was in a precarious defenseless position. Hopefully the fan is banned
 
DogMania said:
I was replaying some of the footage from ESPN and I find it strange that fans would address a player in the first place. Just seem kinda trashy to me.
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Isn't it the same thing as people tweeting/following our players/recruits?
 
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