2021 Recruiting: Landers Nolley

[KingAG]

Nolley and Sanogo please.

What scares me about Sanogo is that it may drag out a while. The same as Nolley recruitment. We can’t afford to wait and miss on both

 

[bendm]

interesting....he was the only grad transfer we were still in on. now we're at risk of having to redshirt 2 transfers if this rule doesnt pass.

unless we get a reclass that is

 

[JimHurley]

What scares me about Sanogo is that it may drag out a while. The same as Nolley recruitment. We can’t afford to wait and miss on both

Right, I just find myself struggling to get excited for Martin. I can’t picture him panning out here.

 

[KingAG]

interesting....he was the only grad transfer we were still in on. now we're at risk of having to redshirt 2 transfers if this rule doesnt pass.

unless we get a reclass that is

I don’t think we need to worry too much about the rule passing

 

[navery12]

interesting....he was the only grad transfer we were still in on. now we're at risk of having to redshirt 2 transfers if this rule doesnt pass.

unless we get a reclass that is

There hasn't been anything on him (UConn or otherwise) but I believe El Amin would be a grad transfer

 

[navery12]

Right, I just find myself struggling to get excited for Martin. I can’t picture him panning out here.

Certainly fair to have that opinion, and I know why you do. But from everything I've seen Martin is a very good player

 

[djct1999]

Certainly fair to have that opinion, and I know why you do. But from everything I've seen Martin is a very good player

He has more upside than Vaughn.

 

[djct1999]

Nolley and Sanogo please.

Pretty please!

 

[superjohn]

Good, wasn't sold on this kid. Had no clue why some were putting him in our strarting lineup.

 

[superjohn]

Don't you sleep?

He's probably like me and gets about 5 hours a night.

 

[navery12]

He has more upside than Vaughn.

Absolutely, and has 2 years of eligibility. Normally I'd take the concerns of fans saying he's selfish a little more seriously, but Hurley has recruited him twice now and I trust him

 

[HooperScooper]

That’d still be incredible. Nolley is the ONE. We could get Nolley and Kermit the Frog and I’ll be excited

Kermit does have some incredible hops.

 

[JimHurley]

Certainly fair to have that opinion, and I know why you do. But from everything I've seen Martin is a very good player

I just can’t see where he’d fit in. He’s not taking minutes at the 3 from Bouknight or Jackson. He’s not taking minutes from Nolley (fingers crossed) or Polley at the 4.

Nolley would command 30 minutes a night at the 3 and 4. Sanogo would probably be looking at 20-25 minutes a night at the 5. I can’t picture where Martin would fit in the picture.

 

[navery12]

I just can’t see where he’d fit in. He’s not taking minutes at the 3 from Bouknight or Jackson. He’s not taking minutes from Nolley (fingers crossed) or Polley at the 4.

Nolley would command 30 minutes a night at the 3 and 4. Sanogo would probably be looking at 20-25 minutes a night at the 5. I can’t picture where Martin would fit in the picture.

Well he's not coming here with Nolley AND Sanogo, we have 2 scholarships open. So those 20-25 minutes you just assigned to Sanogo are Martin's minutes (with Whaley/Springs/Polley/whoever shifting down from 3-4/4-5)

 

[Matt1010]

I just can’t see where he’d fit in. He’s not taking minutes at the 3 from Bouknight or Jackson. He’s not taking minutes from Nolley (fingers crossed) or Polley at the 4.

Nolley would command 30 minutes a night at the 3 and 4. Sanogo would probably be looking at 20-25 minutes a night at the 5. I can’t picture where Martin would fit in the picture.

Nolley is not getting 30 minutes unless he is MUCH improved. Ton of potential but he was inefficient on a terrible VaTech team. Not sure why you are just discounting Martin when he was a starter and main contributor on a Top 75 Kenpom team. If he improves he could definitely take minutes from anyone you mentioned besides Bouk.

 

[Stainmaster]

Not sure why you are just discounting Martin when he was a starter and main contributor on a Top 75 Kenpom team. .

Because he went all in one his "friend"'s opinion and doesn't want egg on his face.

 

[JimHurley]

Well he's not coming here with Nolley AND Sanogo, we have 2 scholarships open. So those 20-25 minutes you just assigned to Sanogo are Martin's minutes (with Whaley/Springs/Polley/whoever shifting down from 3-4/4-5)

Point being, we have an idea of the type of roles that Nolley and Sanogo would play. We have a need for them. What would be Martin’s role on this team? Serious question, just trying to get a gauge.

 

[navery12]

Point being, we have an idea of the type of roles that Nolley and Sanogo would play. We have a need for them. What would be Martin’s role on this team? Serious question, just trying to get a gauge.

We need another guard that's going to play 15-20 minutes a game right now, if the season started today we'd have Adams as the only guard off the bench. Here's how I'd see it playing out, throw in Martin as Y and Nolley as X in your scenario. Obviously could tweak some more to get Nolley some minutes at the 3 (probably take Gaffney and Adams down a few each). And realized I forgot Polley who probably gets around 10-15 minutes

1: Cole 25, Gaffney 15

2: Gaffney 5, Bouk 15, Adams 10, YYY 10

3: Bouk 15, Jackson 10, YYY 5, Polley 5, XXX 5

4: Whaley 5, XXX 20, Jackson 5, Polley 5

5: Carlton 15, Whaley 20, Springs 5

 

[JimHurley]

We need another guard that's going to play 15-20 minutes a game right now, if the season started today we'd have Adams as the only guard off the bench. Here's how I'd see it playing out, throw in Martin as Y and Nolley as X in your scenario. Obviously could tweak some more to get Nolley some minutes at the 3 (probably take Gaffney and Adams down a few each)

1: Cole 25, Gaffney 15

2: Gaffney 10, Bouk 15, Adams 5, YYY 10

3: Bouk 15, Adams 5, Jackson 10, YYY 10

4: Whaley 5, XXX 25, Jackson 10

5: Carlton 15, Whaley 20, Springs 5

Let’s say we get Nolley, which seems likely at a minimum. Then it’s something like:

PG: Cole 30, Gaffney 10

SG: Bouknight 20, Adams 15, Gaffney 5

SF: Jackson 20, Bouknight 10, Nolley 10

PF: Nolley 15, Polley 15, Springs 10

C: Whaley 25, Carlton 10, Ferguson 5

Where does Martin fit in that equation? There’s literally not a single guy I could see him taking minutes from with that depth.

 

[husky429]

Let’s say we get Nolley, which seems likely at a minimum. Then it’s something like:

PG: Cole 30, Gaffney 10

SG: Bouknight 20, Adams 15, Gaffney 5

SF: Jackson 20, Bouknight 10, Nolley 10

PF: Nolley 15, Polley 15, Springs 10

C: Whaley 25, Carlton 10, Ferguson 5

Where does Martin fit in that equation? There’s literally not a single guy I could see him taking minutes from with that depth.

It is so refreshing to have this problem. Feels like it's been years since we've had to ask "how are all these guys going to play" instead of "how can we not fall apart when xyz has to play"

 

[navery12]

Let’s say we get Nolley, which seems likely at a minimum. Then it’s something like:

PG: Cole 30, Gaffney 10

SG: Bouknight 20, Adams 15, Gaffney 5

SF: Jackson 20, Bouknight 10, Nolley 10

PF: Nolley 15, Polley 15, Springs 10

C: Whaley 25, Carlton 10, Ferguson 5

Where does Martin fit in that equation? There’s literally not a single guy I could see him taking minutes from with that depth.

I don't see Javonte Brown Ferguson, Adams or Springs getting nearly as many minutes as you have. In your scenario I'd give Martin his 15 minutes with 5 less from each of those 3

 

[imno1]

Let’s say we get Nolley, which seems likely at a minimum. Then it’s something like:

PG: Cole 30, Gaffney 10

SG: Bouknight 20, Adams 15, Gaffney 5

SF: Jackson 20, Bouknight 10, Nolley 10

PF: Nolley 15, Polley 15, Springs 10

C: Whaley 25, Carlton 10, Ferguson 5

Where does Martin fit in that equation? There’s literally not a single guy I could see him taking minutes from with that depth.

I would bet that Jalen gets more that 15 mpg

 

[JimHurley]

I don't see Javonte Brown Ferguson, Adams or Springs getting nearly as many minutes as you have. In your scenario I'd give Martin his 15 minutes with 5 less from each of those 3

Maybe you know more than me, but I think Adams and Springs are both better players than Martin. Adams’ perimeter defense alone will get him on the court.

 

[navery12]

Maybe you know more than me, but I think Adams and Springs are both better players than Martin. Adams’ perimeter defense alone will get him on the court.

I agree with Adams defense getting him minutes, that's why I tried to keep him in there. Martin averaged 13 and 7 last year, Adams averaged 7 and 2. Similar SOS, and similar usage %. I don't even think it's a conversation between the 2

 

[superjohn]

Maybe you know more than me, but I think Adams and Springs are both better players than Martin. Adams’ perimeter defense alone will get him on the court.

What makes them better than Martin? You haven't even seen Springs play in college.

 

[JimHurley]

What makes them better than Martin? You haven't even seen Springs play in college.

Adams I think is more composed, plays smarter, plays harder, and plays great defense.

Springs I’ve seen play in HS plenty of times. They are completely different players. Springs will be the far superior rebounder, which I think will be his purpose on this team.

 

[bfs3]

Let’s say we get Nolley, which seems likely at a minimum. Then it’s something like:

PG: Cole 30, Gaffney 10

SG: Bouknight 20, Adams 15, Gaffney 5

SF: Jackson 20, Bouknight 10, Nolley 10

PF: Nolley 15, Polley 15, Springs 10

C: Whaley 25, Carlton 10, Ferguson 5

Where does Martin fit in that equation? There’s literally not a single guy I could see him taking minutes from with that depth.

Well Hurleys pitch to nolley was 30 minutes on the ball. I think jackson gets 20 between the 2-3 and starts on the bench.

 

[RipCity]

Adams I think is more composed, plays smarter, plays harder, and plays great defense.

Springs I’ve seen play in HS plenty of times. They are completely different players. Springs will be the far superior rebounder, which I think will be his purpose on this team.

We get that you don’t like Martin because your friend told you not to. Can you stop saying the same shit over and over

 

[superjohn]

Adams I think is more composed, plays smarter, plays harder, and plays great defense.

Springs I’ve seen play in HS plenty of times. They are completely different players. Springs will be the far superior rebounder, which I think will be his purpose on this team.

Martin has been a more successful college player than Adams so far, and you're certainly putting a ton of faith in Springs in his first season playing in college. Martin rebounds just as good as Vital who we all went crazy over because of his superior rebounding here.

You had Dimencio Vaughn in your starting lineup, I really don't see where you're coming from.

 

[Bonk]

Didn't Weingarten say Landers just took a virtual visit to Ole Miss and is planning one to UConn soon? With Vaughn at Ole Miss that presumably knocks out another contender for Nolley.