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None of this is any surprise. UConn did it all it could to destroy Kevin Ollie and his reputation to justify his firing and not paying him the buyout. Ollie is returning the favor. UConn made the first move and chose this path. It is facing the consequences. In the end, neither party actually wins as both will be tarnished.
 
whaler11 said:
no idea what this means. he is doing what anyone would do. i certainly wouldnt stand by and let a inept clown like benedict fire me for cause.
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This was dud joke about the Boneyard wanting so it must be right. My apologies, please disregard.
 
whaler11 said:
yeah lets walk away from 10 million in a situation where no one in the country tries to fire for cause.

two seconds after diaco got paid for being the worst coach in college sports.

makes sense to give up and take nothing because it makes most of the by happy
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If he walked away or tried to negotiate an actual settlement then he'd probably have another job right now. No organization, college or pro, is going to hire him now. You can't trust him
 
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JMick said:
If he walked away or tried to negotiate an actual settlement then he'd probably have another job right now. No organization, college or pro, is going to hire him now. You can't trust him
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I don’t think his job status would be much different if he took a different legal strategy.
 
UCDaveD said:
You're the one who brought up Diaco as if he has any relevance to this whatsoever.
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yes paying diaco 5 million to walk away has nothing to do with what is going on. okey dokey
 
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JMick said:
If he walked away or tried to negotiate an actual settlement then he'd probably have another job right now. No organization, college or pro, is going to hire him now. You can't trust him
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there is zero evidence that uconn offered a cent to settle. why would they if they thought they would win for cause.

and he’ll get a job some day. every day people come back from way worse things and people completely forget what happened.
 
UCDaveD said:
Diaco didn't break the rules, dumb dumb. Ollie did and then lied about it.
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you have no idea if diaco broke any rules. nobody enlisted a rat.

you missed the point again though because you are blinded by hatred for ollie. part of the reason why uconn had to take this for cause path is because they had already blown 5 million on diaco and cant afford to operate like a normal athletic department.
 
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August_West said:
Whelp. There is truth in that, especially on the recruiting trail and management of player relationships...

But in light of this year, its hard to say his game coaching (disinterest aside) was a glaring weakness when comparing Apples to Apples.
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I'm not so sure about that. Things might have changed recently but a couple of weeks ago somebody posted a bunch objective measures by which this year's team was clearly performing better. It wasn't translating to the "W" column but the improvement seemed clear.
 
UConniki said:
He’s not very smart. I know him pretty well from his days at UConn... as s player....nice kid but not very smart.... I was shocked when he was hired as HC and I am not suprised how this turned out.
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That's been my conclusion for quite a while. Nice guy who can be a great friend and ally and teammate in the right situations ... but not up to leading a D1 basketball program which amounts to being CEO of a 20-person, 8-figure annual revenue business. A job he took on with minimal experience, and was hubristic enough to think he could do without quality help.
 
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whaler11 said:
you have no idea if diaco broke any rules. nobody enlisted a rat.

you missed the point again though because you are blinded by hatred for ollie. part of the reason why uconn had to take this for cause path because they had already blown 5 million on diaco and cant afford to operate like a normal athletic department.
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, I'm dealing with an imbecile.

Diaco was never charged with any violations by the NCAA. Kevin Ollie was. That's why Diaco got the buyout and Ollie didn't.

UConn took the for cause path with Kevin because he materially violated the terms of his contract and therefore wasn't entitled to his buyout. How is this difficult to understand? I feel like I'm arguing with an Infowars commenter.
 
Peacefrog said:
I'm not so sure about that. Things might have changed recently but a couple of weeks ago somebody posted a bunch objective measures by which this year's team was clearly performing better. It wasn't translating to the "W" column but the improvement seemed clear.
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Well there is another way to look at that, isnt there?

That with worse objective measure metrics a coach can achieve same results?
 
UCDaveD said:
, I'm dealing with an imbecile.

Diaco was never charged with any violations by the NCAA. Kevin Ollie was. That's why Diaco got the buyout and Ollie didn't.

UConn took the for cause path with Kevin because he materially violated the terms of his contract and therefor wasn't entitled to his buyout. How is this difficult to understand? I feel like I'm arguing with an Infowars commenter.
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They took the for cause path because they couldn’t afford to take any other path.

They were so desperate they had to facilitate the NCAA charges.

If you are dim enough to think Diaco didn’t have petty violations like shot a basket in khakis or 30 second face time with recruit - you probably shouldn’t be insulting anyone’s intellect.
 
August_West said:
Well there is another way to look at that, isnt there?

That with worse objective measure metrics a coach can achieve same results?
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With guys he didn't choose to bring in and an injured jalen adams
 
mrl2016 said:
With guys he didn't choose to bring in and an injured jalen adams
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and the healthiest Alterique weve seen in 2 years.

The injury thing is a wash.

Weve been snake bitten 3 years running across 2 regimes on that front.
 
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August_West said:
Well there is another way to look at that, isnt there?

That with worse objective measure metrics a coach can achieve same results?
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UConn moved up from 176 in Kenpom last year to 92 right now, with a similarly talented roster and a similar injury history. Recruiting is much better, Bouknight, Gaffney, and Akok is a far better class than Ollie could have obtained. The team puts forth more effort and is more fun to watch. Players are developing. I'd say it's clear Hurley has brought a big step up in results.
 
August_West said:
and the healthiest Alterique weve seen in 2 years.

The injury thing is a wash.

Weve been snake bitten 3 years running across 2 regimes on that front.
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Sure, I'll even give you the injury thing is a wash- and ultimately the season boils down to W's and L's but I can tell you I had a hell of a better time watching them lose to Cinci by 4 then last year when they lost to Cinci by 25.

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Plus Hurley brought energy back to the program. I grew up watching UConn, but started becoming less and less interested over the years because it just stopped being fun. Bringing a new coach in revitalizes the energy & brings hope plus a reason to believe in the program which I think the fan base was in dire need of. I've followed this season and recruiting much more closely than in years past, and have seen the same thing with a bunch of my like-minded friends. Just my 2 cents
 
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whaler11 said:
They took the for cause path because they couldn’t afford to take any other path.

They were so desperate they had to facilitate the NCAA charges.

If you are dim enough to think Diaco didn’t have petty violations like shot a basket in khakis or 30 second face time with recruit - you probably shouldn’t be insulting anyone’s intellect.
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There it is. Was waiting for you to go full tinfoil hat mode and you didn't disappoint.

If you can't understand the difference between getting charged with violations and not getting charged with violations, you're beyond help.
 
mrl2016 said:
Sure, I'll even give you the injury thing is a wash- and ultimately the season boils down to W's and L's but I can tell you I had a hell of a better time watching them lose to Cinci by 4 then last year when they lost to Cinci by 25.
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I like where we are headed.
I think? I hope? Let's put it this way I want to believe! Im in it for the long haul no matter what anyway.

But honestly after a really banging start in November (Cuse game) and some looks of competing in Early December this season (FSU, Zona) , no, my enjoyment level this year is no higher than the last 2. Theyve all been torture. No one can look at that SMU game last week and feel good about this season.
 
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