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Utah does have an additional 79.5 million additional square miles (although large part of it is salt flats) so they have that going for them.
 
Utah, Colorado and Arizona are the states that keep the Big Ten contiguous. That is the critical piece of CR. Contiguity. I supposed you could leave Utah out and get the same result.

The next critical piece is the MST. Gotta have the critical 4 time zones covered.
 
Kolumbo said:
Utah, Colorado and Arizona are the states that keep the Big Ten contiguous. That is the critical piece of CR. Contiguity. I supposed you could leave Utah out and get the same result.

The next critical piece is the MST. Gotta have the critical 4 time zones covered.
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$$$ > MST.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
I find this mind boggling but the first thing I would do if I were the government is to let the school know that a holding company, presenting the athletic programs as assets can't claim tax exempt status.
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Yep, although I feel like a methodology could be worked out to get around this. Perhaps having the school own the assets and having the LLC lease them? That would facilitate payments from the separate entity back into the university system, but could create a UBIT issue. I suppose you could just spin them off and accept the taxation, if the profit potential is high enough. It's an interesting thought exercise.
 
DOZE860 said:
Another thing they have, and I think this is more important than people want to believe, is they also have an endowment over a billion. I don't think the B1G would consider us until at least reach that mark.
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That's fair, but what else do they bring? Whatever it is I'm not seeing it. That said, for years the Big Ten quietly stewarded Rutgers along to meeting the requisite criteria they wanted in it before offering admission. Perhaps the same thing is happening with Utah.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
I find this mind boggling but the first thing I would do if I were the government is to let the school know that a holding company, presenting the athletic programs as assets can't claim tax exempt status.
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Even if not tax exempt, they will be able to operate at virtually break-even every year, if that At least from an income tax standpoint it wouldn't make much difference

A mathematician, a Statistician and an Accountant are in for a job interview
The interviewer calls in the mathematician first, the interview goes well and for the last question the interviewer asks, "What does two plus two equal?"
The mathematician replies, "Four."
The interviewer says great and then calls in the statistician, and after another good interview he asks the same question, "What does two plus two equal?"
The statistician says, "With such a small sample size the answer is four give or take point three percent, but on 9 times out of 10 the answer will be four.”
Satisfied, the interviewer then calls in the accountant and at the end of the interview poses the same question, "What does two plus two equal?"
Very suddenly the accountant gets up, locks the door, closes the shades, disconnects the phone, then approaches the interviewer and asks, "What do you want it to be?"
 
Kolumbo said:
Even if not tax exempt, they will be able to operate at virtually break-even every year, if that At least from an income tax standpoint it wouldn't make much difference

A mathematician, a Statistician and an Accountant are in for a job interview
The interviewer calls in the mathematician first, the interview goes well and for the last question the interviewer asks, "What does two plus two equal?"
The mathematician replies, "Four."
The interviewer says great and then calls in the statistician, and after another good interview he asks the same question, "What does two plus two equal?"
The statistician says, "With such a small sample size the answer is four give or take point three percent, but on 9 times out of 10 the answer will be four.”
Satisfied, the interviewer then calls in the accountant and at the end of the interview poses the same question, "What does two plus two equal?"
Very suddenly the accountant gets up, locks the door, closes the shades, disconnects the phone, then approaches the interviewer and asks, "What do you want it to be?"
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That's an oldie but goodie.

Here's one from when I was working as an accountant in an insurance company:

An attorney, an accountant and an actuary were having lunch together and the discussion turned to whether it would be better to have a wife or a girlfriend.

The attorney said it's better to have a girlfriend because you don't need to worry about community property if you spit. A wife can take half of your assets.

The account responded that you are better off having a wife because filing jointly leads to tax advantages that you cannot get if you aren't married.

They then asked the actuary what he thought and he responded "you're better off having a wife and a girlfriend!". Which shocked the other two as they never pictured him as someone who would consider something as daring as that.

The actuary then said you can tell your wife that you're spending the weekend with your girlfriend and tell your girlfriend that you're spending the weekend with your wife. That way you can go to the office and work all weekend with nobody bothering you.

An actuary told me this joke and said only an actuary would get it.
 
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DOZE860 said:
Another thing they have, and I think this is more important than people want to believe, is they also have an endowment over a billion. I don't think the B1G would consider us until at least reach that mark.
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DOZE860 said:
Another thing they have, and I think this is more important than people want to believe, is they also have an endowment over a billion. I don't think the B1G would consider us until at least reach that mark.
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I don't know how much importance the B1G attaches to an applicant's fiscal resources, but if it does, I don't think it would consider a billion-dollar endowment to be very impressive. That's chump-change nowadays. A quick search on Wikipedia reveals that most B1G members have pretty sizeable endowments. OSU, for example, is at $7.9 billion, Northwestern at $14.3 billion, newcomer Washington at $6.6 billion, and so on. Michigan has a whopping $19.2 billion endowment. Rutgers, which is treated rather dismissively in the Boneyard, has an endowment of more than $2 billion. The University of Utah may be an aspiring B1G member, but its endowment is only $1.64 billion. Even so, that's about 2.5 times the size of UConn's.

The B1G is also a research powerhouse, and UConn doesn't compare very favorably in terms of research activity. UConn has a very long way to go.
 
Kolumbo said:
Utah, Colorado and Arizona are the states that keep the Big Ten contiguous. That is the critical piece of CR. Contiguity. I supposed you could leave Utah out and get the same result.

The next critical piece is the MST. Gotta have the critical 4 time zones covered.
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They don’t care about being contiguous. And haven’t for decades.
 
hank970 said:
The B1G is also a research powerhouse, and UConn doesn't compare very favorably in terms of research activity. UConn has a very long way to go.
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That has to do with sports why?
 
Waquoit said:
That has to do with sports why?
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I mostly agree.
Though the B1G is the one conference where it's less clear.

Witness the recent discussions among B1G schools about establishing a mutual-defense compact in case any of them gets sued by the Administration. You won't see the SEC or B12 talking about that. But the B1G schools view their relationship differently, and tighter.
 
Waquoit said:
That has to do with sports why?
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It has to do with some UConn fans' aspirations and fantasies for membership in the B1G. You'd know that if you'd have read the post I was responding to...and the posts it was referring to.

Or maybe not. Even ostriches have to pull their heads out of the sand from time to time.
 
Vowelguy said:
I mostly agree.
Though the B1G is the one conference where it's less clear.

Witness the recent discussions among B1G schools about establishing a mutual-defense compact in case any of them gets sued by the Administration. You won't see the SEC or B12 talking about that. But the B1G schools view their relationship differently, and tighter.
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For what it's worth, one of the knocks against Connecticut by big 12 A.D.'s was that their northeastern "culture" doesn't match the big 12s culture. I can only speculate what they meant by that.
 
CL82 said:
For what it's worth, one of the knocks against Connecticut by big 12 A.D.'s was that their northeastern "culture" doesn't match the big 12s culture. I can only speculate what they meant by that.
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None of us own overalls,... Or livestock.
 
ZooCougar said:
They don’t care about being contiguous. And haven’t for decades.
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Really? I don't know man. Research. AAU. Alumni. It's all about contiguity. Nebraska lost its AAU but it's still contiguous. They have to complete the jigsaw.
 
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