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Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

Stinger92860 said:
A local former D2 Standout kept each of his kids back one year and it helped each of them. Now I think his kids were excellent D1 players anyway but the hold back was in 5th grade. What they are dong now 15 years later is unknown to me, but they were great kids In high school.
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They just play the robb classify game.

When you are in 10th grade, you go to prep school and stay in 10th grade.

Essentially, they are giving you a post grad year, or two, if you need it.
 
JohnFSilver said:
They just play the robb classify game.

When you are in 10th grade, you go to prep school and stay in 10th grade.

Essentially, they are giving you a post grad year, or two, if you need it.
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Academics at boarding school are substantially superior to most public high schools. It is relatively common for kids transferring that they need to repeat a grade to catch up.
 
JohnFSilver said:
I mean, one school is high school. One school is college. What am I missing??
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And yet the players are the same age most of the time. So then it becomes a question, when does your NCAA eligibility clock start? When you graduate high school or when you enroll in a NCAA school?
 
How Sway?! said:
And yet the players are the same age most of the time. So then it becomes a question, when does your NCAA eligibility clock start? When you graduate high school or when you enroll in a NCAA school?
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The clock doesn’t have to start if you aren’t in an NCAA school. NAIA and JUCO count too.

If you’re still in high school basically repeating your senior year then it doesn’t for obvious reasons.
 
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How Sway?! said:
And yet the players are the same age most of the time. So then it becomes a question, when does your NCAA eligibility clock start? When you graduate high school or when you enroll in a NCAA school?
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Should be ncaa school.
 
Samoo said:
Academics at boarding school are substantially superior to most public high schools. It is relatively common for kids transferring that they need to repeat a grade to catch up.
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Every kid I know who did a PG year did it to improve their college athletic options. For example, a kid who didn't start until senior year so they were overlooked by recruiters. Or an undersized kid who needs some additional development.
 
I went to a private school with a sprinkling of PGs. A few were were future West Pointers looking to keep playing D1 Hockey, they had some sort of academic shortcoming that had to be rectified.. We had one PG from Canada who had played junior hockey and was trying to get a scholarship.

In most cases they were targeting private northeast schools with academic standards. Some were just hoping to get a few more options. We had resources to help people with SAT test prep, and some probably had learning disabilities so there were resources for that. It was really just a repeat of their senior years. I can't think of a single case where the student and the school didn't benefit.
 
ZooCougar said:
I went to a private school with a sprinkling of PGs. A few were were future West Pointers looking to keep playing D1 Hockey, they had some sort of academic shortcoming that had to be rectified.. We had one PG from Canada who had played junior hockey and was trying to get a scholarship.

In most cases they were targeting private northeast schools with academic standards. Some were just hoping to get a few more options. We had resources to help people with SAT test prep, and some probably had learning disabilities so there were resources for that. It was really just a repeat of their senior years. I can't think of a single case where the student and the school didn't benefit.
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Some kids just do it to play better competition for a year and get better offers.
 
bobbyinaz said:
Charlie Baker was on Pat McAfee today and while I think he’s trying to bail water from the titanic as NCAA President, he made an interesting point.

If a kid plays 2 years at JUCO and then gets 4 years at FBS does that give everyone 6 years (or whatever) of eligibility?

He was basically begging Congress to help him find a way to fix this mess.
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I don't get why Baker bothers. College sports is coming apart, and without a major federal intervention to give the NCAA some kind of anti-trust protection, the sports structure is impossible to manage.
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
I don't get why Baker bothers. College sports is coming apart, and without a major federal intervention to give the NCAA some kind of anti-trust protection, the sports structure is impossible to manage.
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Because the check keeps clearing. Can’t think of any other reason at this point.
 
I think the NCAA is just about toothless now with the upper echelon of college athletics. When is the last time you heard about a kid or program getting sanctioned for academics or behavior? Did these kids all of a sudden become scholars and Boy Scouts? I think if the NCAA went to a major program in either the SEC or BiG or to the conferences directly with some type of enforcement action they would get laughed out of the room.

Response would be - "yeah, well, give me a reason to leave......."
 
uconndogs said:
I think the NCAA is just about toothless now with the upper echelon of college athletics. When is the last time you heard about a kid or program getting sanctioned for academics or behavior? Did these kids all of a sudden become scholars and Boy Scouts? I think if the NCAA went to a major program in either the SEC or BiG or to the conferences directly with some type of enforcement action they would get laughed out of the room.

Response would be - "yeah, well, give me a reason to leave......."
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They are waiting for UConn to lack institutional control before they move again
 
uconndogs said:
I think the NCAA is just about toothless now with the upper echelon of college athletics. When is the last time you heard about a kid or program getting sanctioned for academics or behavior? Did these kids all of a sudden become scholars and Boy Scouts? I think if the NCAA went to a major program in either the SEC or BiG or to the conferences directly with some type of enforcement action they would get laughed out of the room.

Response would be - "yeah, well, give me a reason to leave......."
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Well, I'd like to think if a kid did something egregious like get paid by boosters, they act against him. Oh wait, that's legal now...
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
This argument is silly. Baker was CEO of a healthcare company, then a successful Republican Governor of one of the most Democratic states in the country. He could have gotten a lot of jobs.
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What has he brought to the table besides a resume? What has he shown in the job? He's had it over a year.
 
uconndogs said:
I think the NCAA is just about toothless now with the upper echelon of college athletics. When is the last time you heard about a kid or program getting sanctioned for academics or behavior? Did these kids all of a sudden become scholars and Boy Scouts? I think if the NCAA went to a major program in either the SEC or BiG or to the conferences directly with some type of enforcement action they would get laughed out of the room.

Response would be - "yeah, well, give me a reason to leave......."
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I don't think NIL money counts toward academics. If you want the athlete to go to class, and pass courses, that will cost extra.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
This argument is silly. Baker was CEO of a healthcare company, then a successful Republican Governor of one of the most Democratic states in the country. He could have gotten a lot of jobs.
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Baker was not known for bold leadership when he was Governor of Massachusetts which is what the NCAA desperately needs right now. Unfortunately, I think he is the wrong guy for the job.
 
He was extremely popular. Very liberal republican. Was more into trade or tech schools than higher ed like UMass. Was surprised he is where he is. I prefer Ned any day.
 
uconndogs said:
I think the NCAA is just about toothless now with the upper echelon of college athletics. When is the last time you heard about a kid or program getting sanctioned for academics or behavior? Did these kids all of a sudden become scholars and Boy Scouts? I think if the NCAA went to a major program in either the SEC or BiG or to the conferences directly with some type of enforcement action they would get laughed out of the room.

Response would be - "yeah, well, give me a reason to leave......."
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What would require sanctions anymore? Kids are getting paid by boasters over the table now. If a kid has academic issues they just enter the portal before it impacts the school because they can transfer freely forever. Behavior issues are a joke. The bottom line is that everything schools used to be sanctioned for are either acceptable now or are solved by kicking a kid into the portal.
 
ZooCougar said:
The clock doesn’t have to start if you aren’t in an NCAA school. NAIA and JUCO count too.

If you’re still in high school basically repeating your senior year then it doesn’t for obvious reasons.
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Because the advantage of an extra year is only for those who can afford it.
 
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Hskies4Ever said:
Because the advantage of an extra year is only for those who can afford it.
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Boarding schools have plenty of $ (Taft has a $350 million endowment, NMH close to $200 million) for the right athlete and provide financial aid to many students. Rich kids go there from the start, not just for an extra year
 
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