Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[Ha Who]

Go back and look at FSU's schedules before joining the ACC. They used to play ~3 SEC schools per year plus some other marquee games. Look at 1990, FSU played Auburn, LSU, South Carolina, Florida plus Miami. FSU does not perceive the ACC schools as their football peers, but think the SEC schools are. FSU's recruits against the SEC schools, with the exception of Miami.

There is a difference between 2-3 marquee games and a full schedule

 

[ZooCougar]

Go back and look at FSU's schedules before joining the ACC. They used to play ~3 SEC schools per year plus some other marquee games. Look at 1990, FSU played Auburn, LSU, South Carolina, Florida plus Miami. FSU does not perceive the ACC schools as their football peers, but think the SEC schools are. FSU's recruits against the SEC schools, with the exception of Miami.

Yeah go back and look at schedules from 35 years ago. Because that’s still relevant.

 

[Vowelguy]

That advances the conversation.

I didn’t think I needed to restate what has been discussed dozens of times.

Most ACC schools preferred UConn, but only slightly.
Four schools — BC , Syracuse, FSU, Clemson — were adamant that it had to be Louisville.
Since the other schools weren’t strongly tied to UConn, they were fine with taking Louisville to appease the others.

 

[ZooCougar]

I didn’t think I needed to restate what has been discussed dozens of times.

Most ACC schools preferred UConn, but only slightly.
Four schools — BC , Syracuse, FSU, Clemson — were adamant that it had to be Louisville.
Since the other schools weren’t strongly tied to UConn, they were fine with taking Louisville to appease the others.

But they didn’t even sniff in our direction this summer.

 

[uconnfan68]

But they didn’t even sniff in our direction this summer.

BC still has a lot of sway.

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

BC still has a lot of sway.

As evidenced by what?

 

[UConnJim]

Yeah go back and look at schedules from 35 years ago. Because that’s still relevant.

It shows who FSU would like to play. Before they joined the ACC, they really didn't play any teams in the ACC at the time, maybe 1 per year. (They played Miami but they weren't in the ACC at the time.) They have been playing ACC football for over 30 years and they have played UNC and Virginia 21 and 18 times respectively about as many times as SEC schools Auburn and South Carolina. Just like if you looked at Pitt's past schedules and it shows they would like to play West Virginia and Penn St. every year.

 

[BarkingDog]

According to Greg Swaim of Greg Swaim Sports, Clemson and Florida State could soon announce their departures from the ACC to join either the SEC or the Big Ten; with North Carolina, Virginia, and Miami possibly joining them, and the Big 12 having their eyes on Louisville, NC State, Virginia Tech, and Pitt.

Says announcement could come before the end of 2023.

RUMOR: Clemson, FSU may announce ACC departure for SEC or Big Ten

Clemson and Florida State, among other schools, may announce a departure from the ACC for the SEC or the Big Ten before the end of 2023.

flywareagle.com

 

[How Sway?!]

According to Greg Swaim of Greg Swaim Sports, Clemson and Florida State could soon announce their departures from the ACC to join either the SEC or the Big Ten; with North Carolina, Virginia, and Miami possibly joining them, and the Big 12 having their eyes on Louisville, NC State, Virginia Tech, and Pitt.

Says announcement could come before the end of 2023.

RUMOR: Clemson, FSU may announce ACC departure for SEC or Big Ten

Clemson and Florida State, among other schools, may announce a departure from the ACC for the SEC or the Big Ten before the end of 2023.

flywareagle.com

This is non non non key

 

[How Sway?!]

I might be remembering wrong but didn't Washington and Oregon outdraw FSU in ratings this past year? And aren't they getting half a B1G share cause Fox et al didn't want or have the money to pay them a full share?

 

[Vowelguy]

But they didn’t even sniff in our direction this summer.

Newsflash: things change in 10 years.

 

[Vowelguy]

According to Greg Swaim of Greg Swaim Sports, Clemson and Florida State could soon announce their departures from the ACC to join either the SEC or the Big Ten; with North Carolina, Virginia, and Miami possibly joining them, and the Big 12 having their eyes on Louisville, NC State, Virginia Tech, and Pitt.

Says announcement could come before the end of 2023.

RUMOR: Clemson, FSU may announce ACC departure for SEC or Big Ten

Clemson and Florida State, among other schools, may announce a departure from the ACC for the SEC or the Big Ten before the end of 2023.

flywareagle.com

According to vowelguy of vowelguysports.
Florida st might announce they are leaving in 2023.

According to vowelguy of vowelguysports.
Florida st might announce they are leaving in 2024.

According to vowelguy of vowelguysports.
Florida st might announce they are leaving in 2025.

According to vowelguy of vowelguysports.
Florida st might not announce they are leaving in 2023-25.

I guarantee that not a single one of my predictions will be wrong, and one will be very right.

 

[Rockford]

I might be remembering wrong but didn't Washington and Oregon outdraw FSU in ratings this past year? And aren't they getting half a B1G share cause Fox et al didn't want or have the money to pay them a full share?

At Least There's No Debating College Football's Most-watched Team

With most major viewership metrics now available, the results confirm that blue-blood programs and rivalries continue to dominate.

frontofficesports.com

 

[buddy]

According to vowelguy of vowelguysports.
Florida st might announce they are leaving in 2023.

According to vowelguy of vowelguysports.
Florida st might announce they are leaving in 2024.

According to vowelguy of vowelguysports.
Florida st might announce they are leaving in 2025.

According to vowelguy of vowelguysports.
Florida st might not announce they are leaving in 2023-25.

I guarantee that not a single one of my predictions will be wrong, and one will be very right.

You have more credibility as Swaim, for sure

 

[LoyalFanCT]

According to Greg Swaim of Greg Swaim Sports, Clemson and Florida State could soon announce their departures from the ACC to join either the SEC or the Big Ten; with North Carolina, Virginia, and Miami possibly joining them, and the Big 12 having their eyes on Louisville, NC State, Virginia Tech, and Pitt.

Says announcement could come before the end of 2023.

RUMOR: Clemson, FSU may announce ACC departure for SEC or Big Ten

Clemson and Florida State, among other schools, may announce a departure from the ACC for the SEC or the Big Ten before the end of 2023.

flywareagle.com

BarkingDog: Thanks for info. Even if half or three quarters of these teams leave, UConn may get a spot in the ACC. Also, state government in Virginia has ensured that Virginia Tech has a decent conference so UVA may not leave if there is no landing spot for Va. Tech.

 

[Vowelguy]

[QUOTE="LoyalFanCT, post: 4829299, member: “]Also, state government in Virginia has ensured that Virginia Tech has a decent conference so UVA may not leave if there is no landing spot for Va. Tech.
[/QUOTE]

Omg no. That is not what happened at all. And I assure you that UVA will do what’s best for UVA.

 

[LoyalFanCT]

https://cardinalnews.org/2023/07/24/attorney-general-miyares-warns-that-virginia-tech-and-uva-should-not-do-anything-to-hurt-the-other-in-conference-realignment/[/URL]

Mark Warner got Virginia Tech into the ACC. Will it stay there? Syracuse's Daily Orange quoted Syracuse’s athletic director saying that UVA President John Casteen (UConn's former president) even threatened to pull Virginia out of the ACC if Virginia Tech wasn’t included.

Mark Warner got Virginia Tech into the ACC. Will it stay there?

The changing conference landscape of college sports has gotten politicians involved in the past. Might it do so again?

cardinalnews.org

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[Hondo 77]

Since we are screwed under the existing structure, anarchy is our friend, though, I'm not sure that existing P4 schools becoming more readily available really helps us.

“Chaos isn’t a pit. Chaos is a ladder." - Petyr “Littlefinger” Baelish

 

[SU1968]

I didn’t think I needed to restate what has been discussed dozens of times.

Most ACC schools preferred UConn, but only slightly.
Four schools — BC , Syracuse, FSU, Clemson — were adamant that it had to be Louisville.
Since the other schools weren’t strongly tied to UConn, they were fine with taking Louisville to appease the others.

What is your source for this? Posters have said that Syracuse voted against UConn but have never given a source. I have never heard this in SU circles.

 

[mike012]

You would think Syracuse and BC would want to move the conference epicenter more North. Adding UConn Temple will help get them out of what is a southern conference and start moving it north.

 

[shizzle787]

I'm pretty sure Syracuse and Pitt both voted for us originally. It was really Clemson, FSU, Miami, BC, and VaTech that were against us.

 

[CL82]

What is your source for this? Posters have said that Syracuse voted against UConn but have never given a source. I have never heard this in SU circles.

I remember that after they announced they were leaving the big east but before they officially join the ACC they were informally polled about Connecticut joining and they indicated that they were not in favor of it. No idea what the position they took regarding us versus Louisville.

 

[XStorrsion]

If the whole top end of the ACC is picked off by the power 3, then Syracuse and BC should want the best possible schools added since they have no better landing spot outside of the ACC.
USF
Tulane
UConn
Memphis

After that seems like a big gap and a log jam of options:
JMU
Liberty
Marshall
ECU
Rice
Temple

And that's assuming the conference doesn't want to look West any further

 

[ZooCougar]

I'm pretty sure Syracuse and Pitt both voted for us originally. It was really Clemson, FSU, Miami, BC, and VaTech that were against us.

You are correct.

Clemson and FSU woke up and were afraid about the ACC’s football standing.

Ironically we beat Louisville that same season. AFTER Louisville was announced.

Between the Louisville thing and the panic CalFord/SMU adds nobody makes awful decisions like the ACC does.

 

[gioff2323]

Years later and folks still commiserating about being passed over for the ville. Wrong. We got passed over by Pitt- after that our chances grew increasingly smaller.